That's one of my favorite cards. It just epitomizes this set for me. And I'm glad this thread came back up to the top as I'm trying to finish my upgrades for my raw '73 set. I'm looking for the following cards raw, in ExMt or better:
1 AARON MAYS RUTH 2 RICH HEBNER 100 HANK AARON 343 BOBBY MURCER BH 344 JIM HUNTER BH 367 BURT HOOTON 494 RICH MORALES 539 TOM MURPHY 542 PAT CORRALES 578 KEN WRIGHT 614 DWIGHT EVANS 640 DICK BOSMAN 641 REDS TEAM 650 FELIPE ALOU 655 CLAY KIRBY 659 JOSE PAGAN 660 FRED SCHERMAN
I'm very much looking for Nash, Luzinski and Ozark variation in MINT grade. Will pay handsomely.
Marc
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
I have 205 or so PSA 9's and 5 or 6 10's all different including a few of the tough low Pop 9's. A few stars etc. Its #23 on the Registry. Dont have the time or patience to continue. Willing to part with the whole lot at a reasonable price. Email me at rjc012661@aol.com
Wow! Please post a scan of that when you get it back!
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So who is this guy? The back of the card says he works for a cable company in the off season. It looks like he was wearing his cable company polo shirt and they just air brushed a Milwaukee hat on him.
The #81 is mis-labeled as an Orange Background, when in fact it is a Natural Background/Tress In Background card.
PSA will replace the label if you return it to them. Or the next owner can take care of the problem. Regardless, it is not listed in the POP Report as an Orange BG PSA 10.
Can someone clearly explain to me the differences I should be looking for on #486 Phillies / Danny Ozark between the Orange Background and Pale Background? I'm not sure if I fully understand that differntiation.
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
Can someone clearly explain to me the differences I should be looking for on #486 Phillies / Danny Ozark between the Orange Background and Pale Background? I'm not sure if I fully understand that differntiation. >>
Hi Marc,
It's related to the color of the background in the coaches photos (not the manager, just the coaches).
I am still looking for a 1973 Topps Yankees Team card PSA 9 if anyone knows of one...
I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy! Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
If you have a look at my 1973 Master Set TGF Collection, I have a scan of both variations of the Phillies Mgr card #486. (Also have most of the other's as well.)
I've seen those scans -- and they just really look to be the same color to me. Am I missing something?
The background color on both of the cards for the four coaches looks decidedly orange in my mind. In fact, the one on top (the Dark Pale one) appears to be orange and the one on bottom appears to be pink...
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
The big difference with the majority of the Manager/Coaches card variations in 1973 was how & when Topps made the changes to the background in the coaches pictures. As I commented in Kevin Glew's article on the 1973 Topps set, it appears to me that cards were first introduced with a natural background. This is most evident in #49 Twins Frank Quilici where coaches Vern Morgan & Bob Rodgers have trees in the background; #81 Cubs Whitey Lockman where coaches Hank Aguirre and Ernie Banks have people and stadium in the background; #116 Yankees Ralph Houk where Hegan, Howard, and Howser have stadium in the background; #179 A's Dick Williams where Irv Noren has trees in the background. In the balance of the manager/coaches cards: #12 Padres Zimmer; #131 Red Sox Kasko; #136 Orioles Weaver; #237 Braves Mathews; #252 Giants Fox; #257 Mets Berra; #449 Indians Aspromonte; #486 Phillies Ozark; #517 Pirates Virdon there was not any visable features in the background behind the coaches heads. (Recently the #421 Angels Manager card was included in the variation list at PSA, however it has been in the SCD & Beckett list for some time.) In all of these manager cards, the coaches background was of a brown-orangey tint.
Someone at Topps must not have been fond of these background differences, so all of the backgrounds were removed from behind the coaches, and the cards were reprinted with a more orange background. It is my contention that all of the manager/coaches cards were improved, however there is still no listing at PSA, SCD, or Beckett of background variations for #296 Reds, #323 Tigers, #356 White Sox, #377 Expos, #497 Cardinals, #549 Rangers, #569 Dodgers, #593 Royals, #624 Astros, #646 Brewers. It is also my contention, that a second modification was done to a few of these cards, because the first modification removed some of the coaches ears, hats, face, etc. Case in point is my previous post in this thread regarding the #179 A's Dick Williams card, and #257 Mets Yogi Berra card.
To really answer your question of orange vs. pink vs. brown, it is more difficult on some cards than on others. The #486 was probably very close to borderline for inclusion in the variation list. The manager cards above, that were not listed as having variations, actually are very similiar to the #486 card. It is not until you have 40-50 raw examples of each, do you really see the difference in the printing defects. This is a challenge I might tackle if I ever get anywhere with the obvious visible differences in the #179 & #257 cards.
I think this set is underrated. It has a nice mix of HOFers and rookie cards and contains Willie Mays' last regular card. It also has a heavy dose of cool action photos. Although not the best design Topps ever had, it still holds its own. Here are some highlights from my set which was built from a high grade raw set and a high grade partial set, both purchased off eBay several years ago.
This card has recently been added into my TGF Collection Basic and Master sets of 1973 Topps Baseball! The only card in the set, never to achieve PSA 9, is now a 1 of 1!
Only 32 more required in the Master set, 23 more in the Basic set! Anyone that can assist with cards that will achive my goal of PSA 9 or better, please review the sets listed in my sig line, and send an email or PM. I will pay a good amount for cards that I still require!
Signed with an extreme amount of gloating included. MrG
Is this guy anywhere near a baseball field? It looks like he wandered out of the woods just in time for his photo shoot.
>>
It also appears that the curvature of the earth is visible
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I was looking at the blue team checklist for the A's and according to it, card #374 should be Pitcher Darold Knowles, but it is actually Darrell Evans with the Braves.
Does anyone know if Knowles appears on a card in 73?
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<< <i>With the centering on this card, what do you think this would grade? It is off top to bottom.
I am also looking to complete a second raw set of 1973 I am 57 cards short. If anyone is interested in trading please let me know. I have posted my want list on the Buy, Sell, Trade forum. Thank you!
Firstly, much apologies for the SPAM. I am looking for the below cards in PSA 9 or better to help complete my 1973 Master set. I will pay $$$ or I can help you grow your set with my 300+ duplicates!
# : PLAYER NAME : VARIATION
01 : RUTH/AARON/MAYS 20 : STAN BAHNSEN : GAP 31 : BUDDY BELL : GAP 49 : TWINS MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/TREES MISSING IN BACKGROUND 131 : RED SOX MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/LENHARDT RIGHT EAR SHOWING 131 : RED SOX MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/LENHARDT RIGHT EAR NOT SHOWING 136 : ORIOLES MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/HUNTER RIGHT EAR SHOWING 179 : ATHLETICS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/NOREN TREES IN BACKGROUND 183 : DON BUFORD 193 : CARLTON FISK 220 : NOLAN RYAN 237 : BRAVES MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/BURDETTE EAR SHOWING 247 : DEL UNSER 257 : METS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/DARK PALE BACKGROUND 257 : METS MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/WALKER EAR SHOWING 259 : JIM HOLT 278 : ORIOLES TEAM 418 : BOBBY GRICH 421 : ANGELS MGR. : DARK PALE BACKGROUND 449 : INDIANS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/SPAHN'S EAR ROUND 453 : CHECKLIST 397-528 498 : GRAIG NETTLES 504 : EARL WILLIAMS : GAP 534 : DAVE LEMONDS 535 : JOHN CALLISON 555 : BILL HANDS 561 : JIM GEDDES 572 : GARY SUTHERLAND 588 : CHECKLIST 529-660 604 : ROOKIE PITCHERS 608 : ROOKIE PITCHERS 609 : ROOKIE 2ND BASEMEN
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347 Royals Team
362 Eddie Watt
498 Craig Nettles
594 Vic Harris
619 Billy Wilson
624 Astros Coaches
654 Twins Team
655 Clay Kirby
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i am considering scooping it up, but wanted validation from you guys, maybe?
julen
RIP GURU
http://www.seanet.com/~brucemo/card_articles/best/corrales.htm
1 AARON MAYS RUTH
2 RICH HEBNER
100 HANK AARON
343 BOBBY MURCER BH
344 JIM HUNTER BH
367 BURT HOOTON
494 RICH MORALES
539 TOM MURPHY
542 PAT CORRALES
578 KEN WRIGHT
614 DWIGHT EVANS
640 DICK BOSMAN
641 REDS TEAM
650 FELIPE ALOU
655 CLAY KIRBY
659 JOSE PAGAN
660 FRED SCHERMAN
My goal will be 9's across the board.
Marc
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3. 1973 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK C.FISK-TOP, J.PALMER-BACK 10
Cannot wait to get it!!
<< <i>3. 1973 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK C.FISK-TOP, J.PALMER-BACK 10 >>
Wow!
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This is why I love the 1973 set.
Im looking for the following in PSA 8 or prefereably PSA 9 for my '73 Yankees team set. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
198- Horace Clarke
314- Ron Swoboda
394- Sparky Lyle
419- Casey Cox
431- Gerry Moses
498- Graig Nettles
535- John Callison
556- Yankees team card
573- Fred Beene
608- Rookie pitchers
616- Rookie pitchers
650- Felipe Alou
-- Yogi Berra
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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38 Epstein
74 Champion
81 Cubs Manager/Orange
86 McCraw
91 Dodgers Team
268 Morales
329 Kranepool
389 Mets Team
411 Corbin
434 Giants Team
500 A's Team
519 Edwards
521 Braves Team
522 Cardenas
If anyone has interest, and a fair price in mind, PM me.
For you 1973 experts: how much should these go for, either as a lot or individually?
Thanks
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PSA will replace the label if you return it to them. Or the next owner can take care of the problem. Regardless, it is not listed in the POP Report as an Orange BG PSA 10.
Cheers,
MrG
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Plus, this thread needed a
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Can someone clearly explain to me the differences I should be looking for on #486 Phillies / Danny Ozark between the Orange Background and Pale Background? I'm not sure if I fully understand that differntiation.
<< <i>Great cello pack!!
Can someone clearly explain to me the differences I should be looking for on #486 Phillies / Danny Ozark between the Orange Background and Pale Background? I'm not sure if I fully understand that differntiation. >>
Hi Marc,
It's related to the color of the background in the coaches photos (not the manager, just the coaches).
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
If you have a look at my 1973 Master Set TGF Collection, I have a scan of both variations of the Phillies Mgr card #486. (Also have most of the other's as well.)
Cheers,
MrG
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TGF Sports
I've seen those scans -- and they just really look to be the same color to me. Am I missing something?
The background color on both of the cards for the four coaches looks decidedly orange in my mind. In fact, the one on top (the Dark Pale one) appears to be orange and the one on bottom appears to be pink...
The big difference with the majority of the Manager/Coaches card variations in 1973 was how & when Topps made the changes to the background in the coaches pictures. As I commented in Kevin Glew's article on the 1973 Topps set, it appears to me that cards were first introduced with a natural background. This is most evident in #49 Twins Frank Quilici where coaches Vern Morgan & Bob Rodgers have trees in the background; #81 Cubs Whitey Lockman where coaches Hank Aguirre and Ernie Banks have people and stadium in the background; #116 Yankees Ralph Houk where Hegan, Howard, and Howser have stadium in the background; #179 A's Dick Williams where Irv Noren has trees in the background. In the balance of the manager/coaches cards: #12 Padres Zimmer; #131 Red Sox Kasko; #136 Orioles Weaver; #237 Braves Mathews; #252 Giants Fox; #257 Mets Berra; #449 Indians Aspromonte; #486 Phillies Ozark; #517 Pirates Virdon there was not any visable features in the background behind the coaches heads. (Recently the #421 Angels Manager card was included in the variation list at PSA, however it has been in the SCD & Beckett list for some time.) In all of these manager cards, the coaches background was of a brown-orangey tint.
Someone at Topps must not have been fond of these background differences, so all of the backgrounds were removed from behind the coaches, and the cards were reprinted with a more orange background. It is my contention that all of the manager/coaches cards were improved, however there is still no listing at PSA, SCD, or Beckett of background variations for #296 Reds, #323 Tigers, #356 White Sox, #377 Expos, #497 Cardinals, #549 Rangers, #569 Dodgers, #593 Royals, #624 Astros, #646 Brewers. It is also my contention, that a second modification was done to a few of these cards, because the first modification removed some of the coaches ears, hats, face, etc. Case in point is my previous post in this thread regarding the #179 A's Dick Williams card, and #257 Mets Yogi Berra card.
To really answer your question of orange vs. pink vs. brown, it is more difficult on some cards than on others. The #486 was probably very close to borderline for inclusion in the variation list. The manager cards above, that were not listed as having variations, actually are very similiar to the #486 card. It is not until you have 40-50 raw examples of each, do you really see the difference in the printing defects. This is a challenge I might tackle if I ever get anywhere with the obvious visible differences in the #179 & #257 cards.
MrG
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
This card has recently been added into my TGF Collection Basic and Master sets of 1973
Topps Baseball! The only card in the set, never to achieve PSA 9, is now a 1 of 1!
Only 32 more required in the Master set, 23 more in the Basic set! Anyone that can assist
with cards that will achive my goal of PSA 9 or better, please review the sets listed in my
sig line, and send an email or PM. I will pay a good amount for cards that I still require!
Signed with an extreme amount of gloating included.
MrG
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
One of the toughest cards of the '70s.
Congrats!
Is this guy anywhere near a baseball field? It looks like he wandered out of the woods just in time for his photo shoot.
<< <i>Pic from an ebay auction.
Is this guy anywhere near a baseball field? It looks like he wandered out of the woods just in time for his photo shoot.
It also appears that the curvature of the earth is visible
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
JDRF Donation
Does anyone know if Knowles appears on a card in 73?
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
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Yes,
Knowles is #274
<< <i>With the centering on this card, what do you think this would grade? It is off top to bottom.
I am also looking to complete a second raw set of 1973 I am 57 cards short. If anyone is interested in trading please let me know. I have posted my want list on the Buy, Sell, Trade forum. Thank you!
Here is a Lloyd Allen OPC example:
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Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
Screw it! I'll post these 1973 OPC's. I love the 1973s too!
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Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
1 - Aaron/Mays/Ruth
578 - Ken Wright
614 - Dwight Evans
641 - Reds Team
650 - Felipe Alou
Thanks,
Mike
Man, they couldn't even get the player photo correct. Another classic card from the 73 set.
I would love to trade some of my '69 topps master set off for some raw or graded cards. I am primarily seeking commons, but need a few HOF cards.
Thanks
Julen
RIP GURU
Firstly, much apologies for the SPAM. I am looking for the below cards in PSA 9 or better to help complete my 1973 Master set. I will pay $$$ or I can help you grow your set with my 300+ duplicates!
# : PLAYER NAME : VARIATION
01 : RUTH/AARON/MAYS
20 : STAN BAHNSEN : GAP
31 : BUDDY BELL : GAP
49 : TWINS MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/TREES MISSING IN BACKGROUND
131 : RED SOX MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/LENHARDT RIGHT EAR SHOWING
131 : RED SOX MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/LENHARDT RIGHT EAR NOT SHOWING
136 : ORIOLES MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/HUNTER RIGHT EAR SHOWING
179 : ATHLETICS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/NOREN TREES IN BACKGROUND
183 : DON BUFORD
193 : CARLTON FISK
220 : NOLAN RYAN
237 : BRAVES MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/BURDETTE EAR SHOWING
247 : DEL UNSER
257 : METS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/DARK PALE BACKGROUND
257 : METS MGR. : ORANGE BACKGROUND/WALKER EAR SHOWING
259 : JIM HOLT
278 : ORIOLES TEAM
418 : BOBBY GRICH
421 : ANGELS MGR. : DARK PALE BACKGROUND
449 : INDIANS MGR. : BROWN BACKGROUND/SPAHN'S EAR ROUND
453 : CHECKLIST 397-528
498 : GRAIG NETTLES
504 : EARL WILLIAMS : GAP
534 : DAVE LEMONDS
535 : JOHN CALLISON
555 : BILL HANDS
561 : JIM GEDDES
572 : GARY SUTHERLAND
588 : CHECKLIST 529-660
604 : ROOKIE PITCHERS
608 : ROOKIE PITCHERS
609 : ROOKIE 2ND BASEMEN
Cheers,
Michael (MrG)
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where are you living (cough -cough) these days old chap....
got any group rips up your sleeve?