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The CU forum, the BST, and the "Circle of Trust"
RYK
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Just like Robert Dinero in the movie "Meet the Parents", the CU forum has a "circle of trust". After having conversations, experiences, and transactions with fellow members, you enter the circle. LucyBop has been criticized by one member in another short thread, and the forum rallied around her, as she is well-known and established here (and elsewhere), clearly beyond reproach. She is firmly planted in the circle. On the other hand, WingedLiberty, who was previously in the circle, was kicked out of the circle for non-payment for coins to various members. He previously enjoyed the privilege of being in the "circle".
I had an interesting recent experience as a buyer for my type set. A newbie seller (fewer than 100 posts here) was offering a coin that I wanted. It was for $50. He does not know me, and I do not know him. He told me that if I paid by check, the check would be held until it cleared. It cracked me up because, perhaps mistakenly, I consider myself to be in the "circle", and he is outside the circle. I felt like saying, "You are new here. I am in the "circle". I will send you a check if you deliver the coin." Alas, for a $50 transaction, I do not care that much, and I am happy to help bring a newbie member into the forum fold.
P.S. I regularly ship coins under $100 to forum members before their funds are received, let alone checks cleared, etc. But only those in the "circle".
Edit in 2009 for spelling error.
I had an interesting recent experience as a buyer for my type set. A newbie seller (fewer than 100 posts here) was offering a coin that I wanted. It was for $50. He does not know me, and I do not know him. He told me that if I paid by check, the check would be held until it cleared. It cracked me up because, perhaps mistakenly, I consider myself to be in the "circle", and he is outside the circle. I felt like saying, "You are new here. I am in the "circle". I will send you a check if you deliver the coin." Alas, for a $50 transaction, I do not care that much, and I am happy to help bring a newbie member into the forum fold.
P.S. I regularly ship coins under $100 to forum members before their funds are received, let alone checks cleared, etc. But only those in the "circle".
Edit in 2009 for spelling error.
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Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
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It cracked me up because, perhaps mistakenly, I consider myself to be in the "circle", and he is outside the circle. >>
Perhaps you each just are in different circles that have just not merged yet. He is not in yours and you are not in his. I know I am in several coin forum 'circles of trust' but am pretty sure I would not be considered in this one as I have not transacted hardly at all here. And, of course, vice-versa.
My Web Sites
"Circle of Trust"... I like that.
Nonetheless, it should be very reassuring that new members can ask for references prior to a transaction and get reliable information.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Online communities are interesting. I missed the attack to which RYK refers, but if it has to do with Frankies or the 50s, one had best not question Lucy's judgement!
Don
If I told him that, he would know that I am trying to stiff him.
<< <i>"I am RYK, millionaire, I own a mansion and a yacht." >>
Dang, mammograms must be treating you well.
Mammograms? No way. Try Breast MR.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I doubt EVERY poster is aware of the proper "circles."
Jeez, it's goofy when good business practices are questioned.
What is it that makes some think that others should follow an "accepted" practice?
This isn't a "pay to subscribe" forum for dealers who are EXPECTED to "trust" each other. When I was on Autex trading system my closest .....ALMOST.......... loss was to a VERY active dealer who stiffed EVERYONE. My check cleared .......TWENTY MINUTES......before his bank closed his account. Bullion deal for $20,000
There are some, in fact....MOST on here that I would trust for pay. But I can't see worrying if someone follows a DIFFERENT drummer.
Neo...
Breast MR is a fabulous technology, congrats!
If you have to ask...
Please don't tease the stiffy.
I'd trust anyone I see posting here regularly.
NGs are (IMHO) lousey places to advertise.
If buying, I have no problem with the seller acertaining that my funds are good before shipping. How fast I get a coin is dependant on how I pay. There are bigger issues out there to kill people over.
No, I would never ever kill anyone.
Unless they really pissed me off!!
mind you I've never been the pivet man.
Herb
<< <i>I've been in a circle before............but we didn't call it a " Circle of Trust"
mind you I've never been the pivet man.
Herb >>
Why, the secret handshake, of course!
Maybe I need to diet?
Rick
Always Looking for Raw Proof Lincoln Cents !!
<< <i>How do you know if you are in the circle? >>
Look for a soda cracker on the ground in front of you.
Russ, NCNE
There are dozens of people who I'd do business with on a trust basis, no questions asked, because I have been around long enough to know who is well-respected and who isn't. To a new member, however, we are all strangers.
Cartwheel
Cartwheel's Showcase Coins
When I see items on the BST board from respected members of the forum I check them out first and I don't dink around with nickel and diming them either. I figure that they've earned their respect for a reason and it's probably not for jacking people around with garbage coins and high prices. On the other hand I won't even bid on Russ's auctions because his prices are sky high (I guess that's a true measure of how to run good auctions).
Millertime
Complete Dime Set
<< <i>I've been in a circle before............but we didn't call it a " Circle of Trust" >>
With everyone seated holding a ....REDBOOK???
Oh, that's just sick.
<< <i>I've done minor deals and received assistance from members of the "Circle of Trust" (I haven't screwed anyone yet). Does that get me any closer to an invitation?
When I see items on the BST board from respected members of the forum I check them out first and I don't dink around with nickel and diming them either. I figure that they've earned their respect for a reason and it's probably not for jacking people around with garbage coins and high prices. On the other hand I won't even bid on Russ's auctions because his prices are sky high (I guess that's a true measure of how to run good auctions).
Millertime >>
Can't tell if that was tongue in cheek, and he can certainly talk for himself, but when I've bid/won lots in Russ's auctions, seems they started at 0.99 or so
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Is the Circle of Trust posted somewhere or is it just expected that new member will automatically know who can be trusted and who can't?
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I'm kinda a newbie, but after reading the Forum for a couple of weeks you kinda know, who you can trust and who is in the circle---- in getting "great" information from.
and once again I say "THANK ALL OF YOU !!! " Your better than any book I have ever bought.
Terri Jo
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<< <i>I've done minor deals and received assistance from members of the "Circle of Trust" (I haven't screwed anyone yet). Does that get me any closer to an invitation?
When I see items on the BST board from respected members of the forum I check them out first and I don't dink around with nickel and diming them either. I figure that they've earned their respect for a reason and it's probably not for jacking people around with garbage coins and high prices. On the other hand I won't even bid on Russ's auctions because his prices are sky high (I guess that's a true measure of how to run good auctions).
Millertime >>
Can't tell if that was tongue in cheek, and he can certainly talk for himself, but when I've bid/won lots in Russ's auctions, seems they started at 0.99 or so
All I meant is that I think Russ is a highly respected member of this forum and that also carries over to his eBay auctions. His auctions are top notch (both in merchandise and layout) and the ending prices reflect that.
Millertime
Complete Dime Set
Ken
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
I refuse to be a member of any club that would consider me for membership..........
SM1 calls me a troublemaker....
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Sunday August 19, 2007 9:17AM
A mentor awarded " YOU SUCK!!"
<< <i>Your post begs the question; am I in or out... Hmmm mabey I don't want to know
Oh i think you are in Chris......
WL, how would you know?
Sweet!!
Seriously though, I find myself having a lot of trust in the regulars around here- even Russ has been very helpful to me!!
What if its a fake soda cracker??
Chris
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.