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NumisEd's Farewell Speech

In light of the recent NumisEd bashing on this forum, I am compelled to speak to each and every forum member via this thread. I came to this forum to learn from others and to impart my (very limited) knowledge unto others. Overall, it has been a successful venture for me, especially when I stick to strictly coin related subjects, such as "grade this coin" or "what is this variety". Unfortunately, I am brutally and viciously attacked whenever I state my OPINION regarding the certification services, the PNG or coin dealers. Others receive similar abuse for stating their opinions that tend to go against the grain of a certain core group here on the forum.

What would this forum be like without the spice of having opposing points of view? What if everyone agreed that the concept of slabbing is without flaw? What if every collector liked every dealer and vice versa? Would the remaining members need a quickly dripping caffeine IV next to their computer in order to stay awake? Would the forum simply shrivel up and blow away as the forum membership dwindled due to the lack of interest and value that should be here?

As you have all read in the recent NumisEd bashing posts, I have received many insults and suffered personal attacks. I have also received some pm’s that have demanded that I leave the forum. In addition, I have received a few pm’s from fellow forum members who have pleaded with me to stay. Some of those very members are the ones that I have disagreed with on a regular basis, but they are wise enough to know that an opposing opinion really exposes all possible sides to an issue and stimulates intelligent reasoning and logic when forming opinions. Nonetheless, I have been asked to leave the forum.

Therefore, ladies and gentlemen of the forum, I hereby offer to you my farewell.

Not a farewell to the forum. Oh no. Sorry, but I am not leaving the forum. Rather, I say “farewell” to my intimidation when posting. I say “goodbye” to the many times that I have just lurked in a thread without posting for fear of being savagely attacked for stating my opinion. I say “sayonara” to my hesitation to state my full, unbiased opinion on the issues that affect the hobby that I love; numismatics. I also say “farewell” to the past methods I have used to communicate my feelings. No more name calling or bashing. I will try to be more civil, although that is going to be very difficult and I can’t make any promises.

“Adios” to the old NumisEd and “hello” to the new and improved NumisEd…..the numismatic avenger…..the coin caring crusader of all that is right…… Whenever I log onto the forum, I shall wear a lime green cape and sunglasses. As insults are hurled at me at the speed of light, I shall deflect those insults with my vest made from recycled slabs. I shall also respond to those insults with the following statements: “I am rubber, you are glue, bounced off of me and stuck to you” and “I know you are, but what am I”. Thanks to my few friends here and my many enemies. We are all on the same team somehow.

LONG LIVE THE FORUM!
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  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Doug
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    OOOOOOOHRAHHHHHHHH!!!!
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Good for you. You has as much right to voice your opinion as anybody else.

    Don't worry about annoying the "cool kids" in the "in crowd". Perhaps they aren't as cool as they think.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943
    imageGeez Mark, er Ed. I missed the last few days do to a computer problem. I wish I saw the bashes, but that wouldn't slow me down. What hacks me is posting and not getting any responses like I don't understand what's going on around here. Personally, I wouldn't cave to them and continue to be yourself.
    Maybe the bashers will remove their heads and get some fresh air, stop looking like the Doughnut brigade just rolling along and enjoying their views!!
    We will wait and see the kinder, gentler Ed in the near future!!!image
    HEAD TUCKED AND ROLLING ALONG ENJOYING THE VIEW! [Most people I know!]

    NEVER LET HIPPO MOUTH OVERLOAD HUMMINGBIRD BUTT!!!

    WORK HARDER!!!!
    Millions on WELFARE depend on you!
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    image Here here!!
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    Thanks everyone! See, I knew that I loved this place.

    Jeff, the threads that you missed got moved to the open forum, except for a couple that were simple deleted because there was not an acceptable place to move them to.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aren't you afraid being 'new" might make people think
    you are in the modern camp. Can your reputation take it?
    Tempus fugit.
  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    You're right cladking. Let's just say the "improved NumisEd" instead of new and improved.
  • Tell us how you really feel!!imageimage
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
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    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Are you still going to stalk Russ???image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017
    Yeah, tell us how you like collecting old slabs now.

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    Cameron Kiefer
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am confusedimage You make a big announcement to announce that you are going to do what you have been doing all along?
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    “hello” to the new and improved NumisEd…..the numismatic avenger...I shall wear a lime green cape and sunglasses

    I'll believe it when I see the green cape! image
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • FWIW:

    I never found what you said to be objectionable to me.

    I support your right to voice your opinion. I support everyone's right to do likewise.

    Since this board is sponsored by our friends at PCGS, they are the final authority in this matter, in the same way they are the final authority when you submit coins to them. You submit to them when you post on this forum, for better or for worse. There are other venues.

    I have no influence on them. I am not a big customer of theirs. I cannot encourage them to do (or not do) anything with any kind of sway.

    Good luck, and I'm glad you are staying around.

    regards,

    Maurice
    Maurice
    Lurking with intent to loom
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    His announcement was to announce that he will continue to exercise his right of

    free speech. He will continue to speak out on issues he is for and against. If those views

    should be in the minority, then so be it. That appears to be the context of NumisEds announcement.
    There once was a place called
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  • islemanguislemangu Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    Happy trails...esta. You know you are not going anywhere..image
    I like the bounce and stick but what I do not like is censorshipimage
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    You DA MAN, Ed.
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bear- Like I said........image
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777
    Good for you! I'm glad you're staying! ..........Ken
  • Lighten up... I never read the threads bashing you and I could only make it 3 lines into this one. Let's talk about coins!!!
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know there's a diagnosis for this......
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    Don't worry about it NumisEd, not everyone here gets along for a variety of reasons I guess. A lot of the 'old crew' has also checked out for one reason or another, and I probably will too in the very near future primarily because the recent theme of this forum and most of the various thread subjects no longer hold much interest for me. For a relative newbie however, there is still some knowledge to be gleaned from this forum.

    dragon
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Good job, Eddie. Feel that on your head? That's me patting it.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Dragon, an excellant example of damming praise.
    There once was a place called
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  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928


    << <i>the recent theme of this forum >>



    Was it decided there is a theme to the forum? And no one told me?
    How do I know I'm dressed appropriately?

    Clankeye
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • Coins good!
    People good!
    Bashing bad!

    Stick around and set a spell.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Carl, the dress code is confused, you will fit right in with

    the rest of us.

    Carl , Coinguy is being mean to NumisEd. Im telling his mother on him.
    There once was a place called
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  • People take themselves too seriously NumisEd. In a 100 years we'll all be dead and our coins will be sold on Ebay by the people in our will.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,636 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>the recent theme of this forum >>



    Was it decided there is a theme to the forum? And no one told me?
    How do I know I'm dressed appropriately?

    Clankeye >>



    I just try to be Clad all the time, but I often don't fit in.
    If there's going to be a dress code I am going to need
    to find a crown.
    Tempus fugit.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>Whenever I log onto the forum, I shall wear a lime green cape >>


    That's fine......it just can't be red because thats been takenimageimage
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Hey FatMan, that red cape light enough for you to fly? Heh heh heh
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NumisEd,

    This "farewell" speech of yours is totally self-serving and mis-leading. Your detractors, in general, don't want to silence you. We simply want you to be less rude and abrasive. No one is asking you to be smooth-tongued like politician, but you don't need to be so hateful either with the way you express yourself.

    Don't leave; just be more reasonable with your voicing your opinions.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭
    I'm glad you are staying Ed (NOT Eddie). If you have a problem with certain portions of the hobby and choose to express your opinion, that is perfectly fine with me. No censorship required here. Enjoy your time here!


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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    and if you ever start praising Frankies then I'll bash you a good one! image
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
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    Pennies make dollars, and dollars make slabs!

    ....inflation must be kicking in again this dollar says spend by Dec. 31 2004!

    Erik
  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    This "farewell" speech of yours is totally self-serving and mis-leading.

    EVP, I apologize for taking such and ranting stance against you last night. I think that you and I have a lot in common in terms of collecting interests and we should be more friendly to each other than in the past. My apologies for telling you to kiss my a$$.
  • AndroidAndroid Posts: 726
    Ed,
    If I remember correctly that was FAT a$$. image
    We are finite beings, limited in all our powers, and, hence, our conclusions are not only relative, but they should ever be held subject to correction. Positive assurance is unattainable. The dogmatist is the only one who claims to possess absolute certainty.

    First POTD 9/19/05!!

  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    Android, I was too embarrassed to include the whole statement, but thanks for reminding me. image


  • << <i>

    << <i>the recent theme of this forum >>



    Was it decided there is a theme to the forum? And no one told me?
    How do I know I'm dressed appropriately?

    Clankeye >>



    Clankeye, You are always a joy!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Love'm or hate'm, the world needs a hardass to keep it honest.

    When I first read the title of this tread, I was heatbroken. "Say it aint so!" was my thought.

    And although I haven't always agreed with what NumisEd has said, I've always valued his input (and the way he can whip us into a tizzy).

    Glad to hear you're not going down without a fight.
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NumisEd,

    I apologize as well for my part in this whole rancorous affair. For what it's worth, I never doubted your numismatic expertise. In fact, I was hoping that you'd post more about numismatics instead about the politics of this biz. I was really hoping that you'd direct your considerable passion into pure numismatics and share it with all of us.

    I think you and I have much common interests within numismatics. So, if that makes me selfish -- so be it. Please regale us with your vast knowledge in the areas of your expertise. I've read your posts in the past, and have found them very interesting to me.

    Regards,

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW! Could it be a happy ending on the boards?image

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