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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, Adrian! You are adrenaline on a stick, man!

    I was fascinated by the kinds of coins you showed up with on Ebay for a long time before you showed up here. My stock comment here and elsewhere was “Where does this guy come UP with those coins!” I got a nice Texas Commem from you once on Ebay, but that’s the only time we ever crossed paths. But I knew who you were when you arrived on these Boards.

    I was amazed, though, when I found you reacting to even slight reproaches or criticisms. You wouldn’t just retaliate. You would carpet-bomb. You would go on for paragraphs, festooning the lampposts with their entrails, piling up mountains of skulls, questioning the legitimacy of even remote relatives generations back. It did leave me with the initial impression that you were some kind of maniacal bully. And then you would implausibly post that you didn’t see why anybody had to get personal around here (even as the crumpled corpse of your opponent was on the ground, struggling for his last death rattle).

    Yet several people I know who’ve met you at shows (I haven’t done that yet) say that you’re flamboyant alright (duh! All you cars, your women and your coins are monster toned!), but that you’re also a nice, gregarious fellow.

    But thanks to your comments here, I think I understand now. You like the good verbal rumble. You go into bars and pick a verbal bar fight, roll around in the verbal mud, the blood and the beer, so you can then shake the guy’s hand, smile toothlessly at each other and buy him a drink. You said you and your wife do the same thing. No wonder you’re having so many babies! image

    You must be ferocious in court in those witness cross-examinations!

    I guess when one of the bar fights happens in here, we oughta PM the unsuspecting newby to go ahead and swing away. They’ll probably wind up enjoying it!

    I’ll look for you at the next show! image
  • Voila!
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "roll around in the verbal mud, the blood and the beer" (lyrics from a BOY NAMED SUE)

    ANACONDA MAY BE ACCUSED OF BEING MANY THINGS, BUT HE IS NO JOHNNY CASH imageimageimage

    WONDERCOIN
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • i hear the train a comin'...

    Actually, i can sing pretty good. Tiny Tim, Janis Joplin, i can do all the great voices...

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    Criticism. It's the river that never stops flowing:

    It's been cleaned.

    It's been artificially toned.

    It's too white.

    It's not white enough.

    The luster is subdued.

    It's over graded.

    It's in the wrong holder.

    It's in the right holder but the wrong insert.

    It's not in a slab.

    It's in a slab.

    The tabs are broken on the holder.

    The holder's scratched.

    It's too expensive.

    It's too cheap - there must be something wrong with it.

    It's sold by the wrong guy (He offered an ACG coin back in '89.)

    It's too old and dirty.

    It's too new and clean.

    My goodness. I'm glad i'm not married to any of you whiners and complainers. (Wait a minute here....i sound like i'm whining and complaining...hmmmm.)

    That doesn't mean that everyone here is a whiner or a complainer.

    But to you snobs out there who think if it isn't yours it isn't shi*......gimme a break. You're either too transparent or i've swallowed the big one up to the rod tip.

    Did you know that I've even been critisized for owning this coin:

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    Ever notice the whiners and complainers rarely show images of their coins.....makes ya' wonder, doesn't it?


  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "i hear the train a comin'... "

    I'm glad your favorite tune wasn't "FOLSOM PRISON" OR EVEN "TIP TOE THROUGH THE TULIPS" imageimageimage

    All kidding aside, that 1834 looks awesome!! image

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • Ever notice the whiners and complainers rarely show images of their coins.....makes ya' wonder, doesn't it?
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad Prowler isn't a fighter.

    If it's a fight worth fighting, and with a worthy opponent, then I'm always up for the challenge. I don't know you well enough to say that you're worthy of my time. I do know, however, that the fight isn't worthy of my time at the moment.

    Moreover, as all intelligent people know, there's more than one approach to fighting. Some prefer to use brutish, angry methods that are full of "venom" and vitriol. Others prefer a more subtle approach that elevate the tet-a-tet to a higher, more intellectual level. Of course, the second approach is only applicable if my opponent has the intellectual wherewithal...

    In the early days of mankind, we used sticks and rocks to throw at each other. More evolved human beings now use precision weaponry.

    Scratch your belly if you understand.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • Oh my God!

    Props to EVP...that was HILARIOUS!
    dwood

    "France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it." -Dave Letterman
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    Better get the popcorn and cold beer ... looks like the Saturday Night Fights are back on!! image
    Askari



    Come on over ... to The Dark Side! image
  • EVP - what did it take you, about three hours to come up with that?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread is officially "The Thread of Death" for this weekend. Like the previous Threads of Death, I have used it as an opportunity to learn more about coin collecting. My takehome lessons are:

    1. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder--yeah, kinda trite, but I have to start somewhere
    2. Anaconda and Joe generally do not sell coins that interest me, but they both have a lot of nice coins for sale!
    3. Never buy a coin from a trial lawyer--I am bidding on one of Anaconda's auctions, so I guess I already broke that rule.
    4. Never cross a trial lawyer--making point #3 may be hurting me here
    5. Experts, professional graders, lifetime collectors, mint employees have a difficult time determining what is AT and what is not--I guess I do not have a chance.
    6. If I had $8500 to spend on one coin today, it would be Anaconda's 1795 $1--and I do not even collect them! Who cares? It is quite a beautiful coin. Maybe I should steal it...(that violoates #3 and #4)
    7. There is not much interest on these boards in rare gold coins

    (hopefully I won't take a beating for my humble commentary)
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Whine, wah, sniffle!

    Oh, wait. I posted an image of my coin, therefore I can't be one of the whiners. But....... I'm..... whining..... must ...... stop..... aw, shucks... it's all so complicated! image
  • Did you take that picture? No fair if it's a cut and paste. I gotta hear you say it.

    I'm thinkin' that's a cut and paste.....c'mon now...no stars for other people's work.

    Now, a write-up. Please. Then I'll take you out of the non-productive whiner's group.
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN -- please tell me about that 20 cent piece. If you don't want to clutter the board, send me a PM. I have one of the four NGC MS67's, and I was wondering if the one you refer to held that grade, what the problems were, etc. . .
    Doug
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EVP - what did it take you, about three hours to come up with that?

    I was typing slowly so you'd be able to keep up!

    LOL!

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • That is not an original. No points.

    (Although it was funny.)

    And you're not supposed to laugh at your own jokes....you stinker.

    Stinkie #2
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EVP - what did it take you, about three hours to come up with that?

    He was busy. He had to ... ahem .... "walk" the dog! [or something else, based on his post on the NGC forum!]

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  • Doug -- the twenty center the complainers have been whining about is this coin:

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you take that picture? No fair if it's a cut and paste. I gotta hear you say it.

    Well... it's not straight cut and paste. It's actually a dipped out white coin so I had to "paint" it first! image

  • Tradedollarnut ..... i will assume by you ignoring my question about the etiology of the pic that you posted, that it isn't of your making.

    You do want to leave the unproductive whiners group, don't you?

    adrian

    P.S. Pittman half?
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN -- what's the grade/holder? For my reference notes.
    Doug
  • Half or twenty cent piece?

    I think the half is an AU50, PCI, i believe.

    The twenty cent piece is an NGC proof 68.

    adrian

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  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a coin that TDN likely won't be able to get his grubby hands on ever!

    EVP

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    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • Alright, prowler. Did you take that picture?

    Or did you just modify this one:

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1838 is the Pittman proof half. PCGS PF66. The picture is modified from the B&M website picture. The coin is in the vault and bank employees tend to look at you funny when you walk in with a camera setup! image

    The 1876 20 center is NGC PF68. It is a drop dead gorgeous hunk of coin.... with a (probably mint made) problem in the right obverse field under the toning. Love the coin, hate the grade and price.

    IMO, Adrian has finally reached the catch 22 of coin dealership. There simply aren't enough great coins to limit yourself to only the finest. If you're gonna do it (mostly) full time, eventually you have to compromise your standards in order to keep the gross profit flowing. Washed out white stuff? Shame on you, Anaconda. Everyone knows that white coins can't jump! image
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Adrian,

    I'll try to answer the question slowly and using simple vocabulary: Y E S.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everyone knows that white coins can't jump!

    Not true. I have one that can. I'll post images later if I have time. Gotta run!

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • C'mon, Trade. Just slip it into the pocket and take it home. No one will know.

    You don't have any picures that you took?

    Geeze.

    How about an interesting write up. Make something up. C'mon dude.


    "Washed out white stuff? Shame on you, Anaconda." -- hey, I bought that coin so Russ would like me.

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  • tradedollarnut,
    I had the pleasure of seeing your Pittman half dollar at the NYC ANA show this past August. Laura let me fondle it for a few minutes, sorry about the drool on the holder. Congrats on that beauty!
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics suck. Luster is sparkling.


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    Doug
  • ahah Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    Verry nice!
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, this sure took off since this morning. Some of us have to get out occasionaly and do errands on our days off.

    It's true that you can't always tell good luster from a scan. But you CAN surely confirm burnt or poor luster at times. NO doubt about it.

    As far as that 1876 proof 20 cent piece out of Vermeulle that brought $13,800 (strong 66 money): My records have Avena buying this coin. Is someone saying that Adrian bought this raw out of the sale? Those with grading skills or lots of b-lls can compete at auction on raw coins and maybe not get smoked. The buyer of this got a good deal if he was the one who slabbed it as a 68. No one at the sale felt this was a stone 67 and it doesn't appear that a group of dealers bought the coin to keep the price down. I did attend that sale and purchased 7 raw seated/bust coins in the 64-67 range. Coincidentally, I purchased the 1818/5 25c out of Vermeulle raw (now NGC 65) and would be happy to show this fully original coin to you at a future show. Nowhere has anyone stated in this thread that they are better or smarter or grade better than anyone else. Merely opinions. We all have them. I felt the 1876 twenty center was a proof 66 too due to a patch of right field hairlines. JMHO.

    Like TDN, I get a twinge in my gut when the price nearly triples due to the plastic. Same reasoning on the proof 67 bust quarter. Great looking coin however. A great deal coming out of the Norweb sale.

    TDN I don't necessarily agree that just because the Garrett 1878-s trade dollar only had 3 owners that the coin has been "untouched" all its life. No one will ever know for sure. I'm sure the old timers had concoctions of their own to "improve" a coin's appearance. It still comes down to what the coin looks like today. The coin stands on its own merits.

    Adrian, as far as joining the ANA? What does that prove? That one implicitly supports ACG? A dealer-thief I had been swindled from is still actively dealing in coins and is still an ANA member in good standing. The only letters that I would take any faith in are those
    of PNG. The others have no teeth whatsoever.

    No pics...so I guess I'm a whiner and complainer and offer nothing useful to you. Was the information I took the time to mail to you about your coin being from the Norweb collection of any use to you???

    roadrunner
    whineras complaineras
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • "Adrian, as far as joining the ANA? What does that prove? "

    Joining....probably nothing other than you support the organization. Becoming a life member.....same thing, probably nothing. However, it is a widely bantered self said thing.

    Not getting kicked out.....i guess that would be an accolade. Not everyone gets to stay in. In fact, i heard about one dealer (and that persons name is totally irrelevant) who was not allowed into a show because that person had an unresolved problem with another member. Fact or fiction....i don't know.

    As far as the info you gave me on the 1837 quarter...i was and am grateful. Thank you again. It is evidence that maybe you are not a full fledged member of the rich complainer's nonproductive guy group.

    My beef in this thread, again, is primarily me (and others often....) getting personally attacked. It happens all the time.

    I probably deserve it on occasion but all i did here uin this thread was post a picture of a coin and then i start getting grief from jo what's his name.

    And i'm not going to let some fellow slam me with thin facts and just sit here and let him think he knows what he is talking about when he doesn't.

    As far as whiners and complainers go.....c'mon, man....can't you see how people get tired of the know it alls always knocking down
    coins? Not every coin is perfect. It's just real irritating when people post a picture of a coin and the inevitable happens....someone
    just has to start tearing it down. If you're guilty of that, then digest it and get on with life. If you are not guilty of that, then don't put yourself into that category unless you just enjoy self flaggelation (sp?).

    In the same vein, people often say things like they're some sort of coin God, like their opinion is fact and i for one get really really sick of the know it alls.

    It's not a complicated thing. When someone posts a picture of a coin, keep your mouth shut unless you have something nice to say.

    When did we learn that?......in....uh....like kindergarten? "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything?"
    Some things don't change.....walk up to me and punch me in the face...i'm probably gonna go for your windpipe.
  • I collect Lincolns.......but even I have an opinion.

    Adrian- I like....the 1815 quarter......the 1834 Proof quarter......and I like Stephanie!! If I am scoring any points.....how big of a discount does that get me.......if I take all three??

    In order.......hmmmmmm..........I think Stephanie (because she is very callipygian).....then the 1834....and then the 1815.

    And although it is a nice horse.......forget it. This is a coin forum (somethimes we numismatists look at girls too....and hell.......I do drink alot of beer).

    Anyway......I think it is ALWAYS uncalled for to attack someones picture of a coin. If you don't like it....THAT IS FREAKIN' FINE......but don't criticize it in an open forum.

    GEEEEEEEZ......what is wrong with some of you?? Nobody is going to post pictures of coins I can never afford...if everytime they do it........a few self-absorbed.....self acclaimed expert decides they don't like it.

    That is what makes coins interesting. Everyones tastes aren't exactly the same. Some like Franklins...some like moderns.....some like copper.....some like Morgan......etc. Some like them white and brilliant.....some like rainbow toning.....some like monster toning......etc.

    Bottom line is.....if you don't like it.....don't say anything. The exception is......when someone ASKS for an opinion of a coin....and supplies a picture......it is free game. But when someone is obviously proud of....and likes the coin they are showing.....it isn't right to give NEGATIVE opinions. And of course...this is just my opinion (even if it is right).

    Now.....back to Stephanie!! Any of you smart educated boys figure out what "callipygian" means yet.....without going to the dictionary??

    Adrian- we do need a picture of the reverse.......and have her pose for it correctly....and make sure you focus the darn camera (that is my only criticism for you).....I just hate being teased (with coins too). How about sending all 3 to me.....on approval for.....hmmmmm...say 2 weeks?imageimageimage
    Marc
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The range of opinions on this forum are extremely widespread. You could show that 1834 quarter to 100 people on the forum raw and get grades from 63 to 68.....and most of them would likely be wrong.....or at least out of the norm. Take them all and mine with the grain of salt that they are worth.

    Joe was a bit abrupt with his comments and if think he would state them differently if given a mulligan on it. But any of us that sell coins to the public at any time for any reason do open ourselves up to some well deserved scrutiny. If one is able to comment on another's material the reverse has to be true too.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess the death thread is dead. I was waiting for someone to say something about my 1876.

    Does it have spots? yes

    Does the picture suck? yes

    Is it in an NGC67 holder? yes

    Is it probably a 66 because the eagle's left wing is soft? yessssss

    Does the coin have stunning luster in person? yesssssss

    Do I have the coin in hand to look at and give an opinion? yessssssss

    Do I like the coin? yesssssss

    Would I like to show it to others in person and get their educated opinion? yessssss

    Do I know everything about coins? nnnoooooooo

    Did I overpay when I bought it for $1,000 less than it sold for the previous year? I don't carrreeeee

    Doug
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    As I remember the Tale, some old time collectore used cyanide solutions

    to clean their coins. That is untill one famous collector mistook the cyanide solution

    for a glass pf plain water. After that, he wasnt thirsty no more.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Bear- "Thats gonna leave a mark".....ouch.........as I always say......make sure you are looking at.....whatever it is you are putting your lips on.

    Damn......I sure miss Stephanie. Any more picks yet?
    Yo Adrian......I'm dying over here. Got that camera fired up yet?
    Marc
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Adrian, you have probably answered this before, but what camera do you use for your photos? . . . er . . . I mean for coin photos . . . I don't want the disposable you used to take that picture of Stephanie and the numismatic prop.
    Doug
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    He uses a Nikon CoolPix 990 and an HP Scan Jet 6300c. At least he did the last time I saw him answer this question.
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I do drink alot of beer >>



    Marc,

    So what you're saying is that I should start a new awards category for highest ratio of posts while inebriated vs. posts while sober?

    RELLA

    P.S. Nice looking quarter Adrian...no matter what some blowhards might say.
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Greg. I forgot Adrian slithered over to chucky cheese. Now would be a good time to slip over to his house and . . .

    Too bad I am 400 miles from Dallas . . .
    Doug
  • Since no one else has:

    cal·li·pyg·i·an ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kl-pj-n) also cal·li·py·gous (-pgs)
    adj.
    Having beautifully proportioned buttocks.


    And yes, I had to look it up, and yes, I'll use it in a sentence VERY soon, and no, I'll never forget it again. Thanks Marcalan! image
    dwood

    "France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it." -Dave Letterman


  • << <i>I think Stephanie (because she is very callipygian)..... >>

    Gee, now there's a word I don't think I've seen since college! Adrian, you can tell Stephanie she has a had a truly rare compliment!! How many ladies have been told they're "callipygian"? Maybe she can put it in her resume. imageimageimage
    Askari



    Come on over ... to The Dark Side! image
  • I think I got a major in the Callipygous Sciences in college, but its all a blur now.

    There. I've used it in a sentence.
    dwood

    "France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it." -Dave Letterman
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Maybe we could have a coin grading contest. We all grade a coin sober, then have two

    bears..........................Correct that, beers, and grade another coin. We can see how alcohol

    will impact whatever grading skills we might happen to have.Of cours in my case I usually get sleepy

    after two beers and go to sleep.So I guess I wouldnt be grading the second coin.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • You're onto something Bear. Lets give Adrian and Joe a twelve pack each. Suddenly BOTH of their coins will be "strong 69s that shouldn't have missed 70!"
    dwood

    "France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it." -Dave Letterman
  • I don't drink. Sorry, jo can have all 24 beers.

    jo....i don't have a clue. Happy?

    I just joined the ANA and became a life member recently.

    Congrats on your long standing numismatic career.

    You started out when Jim Halperin and Steve Ivy started. They sold over 150 million dollars worth of coins last year and employed about 100 people.

    You, in the same time frame have managed to amass an inventory of 36 coins. Good job, dude.

    Now, please go back, if you aren't too busy doing inventory, and re-read your post and my posts and tell me who started the nasty turn on this thread.

    And if you are capable of realizing your mistake, then a simple "i'm sorry" would be enough for me.

    It takes a big man to say "i'm sorry".

    adrian

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