Is AI Grading here?
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Saw this ad in the new Numismatist issue. Not a lot of details on the website. I have to imagine all of the TPGs have been pitched already. Would they announce if they are using such a thing? As with all things like this, it looks impressive but the devil is in the details. Something like this will work for 98% of coins but not for that last 2%. I'm curious how they evaluate the mirrors of a DMPL Morgan.
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MS65 with the cheek gashes?
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Did the Machine miss the reverse?
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Those scratches are almost bad enough to warrant a details holder!
MS 62 and that’s without knowing what the reverse looks like
It's unnaceptable for the OP coin to be evaluated as "MS 65". MS-65 is supposed to be "gem". One could drive their ATV through that gash on the cheek of this...gem.
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Interesting that they chose that example for their ad.
Maybe they meant to say "Our machine misses what the eye sees."
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Lotta words. Lotta claims. Nothing backing it up.
All their people are AI/Data Scientists/VC ... not a named numismatist in the bunch.
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Next they will have the self grading holder that gives current CPG.
I'd almost laugh ... but I'm not sure that hasn't been thought of somewhere (we know it has, at least by you) ... and the thought of that happening really isn't that funny.
Also, just for the record, that Morgan is an MS65 like I'm still a fit, stout and sexy 40 year old! And it might get worse when you look at the backside!!
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I think those saying the coin is worthy of a MS62 or details grade are being overly harsh.
OK MS63.
In the "Our Story" they did say done over 100 interviews.....so there's that.
I wonder how their photos look?
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