AU 1798 Silver Dollar with Incredibly Clean Surfaces... Wow?!
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Say, what do you guys think?
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I’ll buy it with your money.
Lot of Vaseline on that camera lens…..
Sorry, just went to the casino and put it all on yellow
I just came home from the casino with a hole in my wallet.
Typical Gold Standard Auction
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this were the result of AI upscaling gone awry.
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Caution to the wind sorta speaks 🫣
hmmmmm?
Wow, now there's a manipulated photo. Wonder what they were trying to hide...
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Hmmm. Surfaces just don’t look right. Has an unnatural and manipulated appearance. The motif is granular while the surfaces are smoothed and blurry.
Once, and only once did I buy a coin from them... and it actually turned out fine. It happened to be a much better Browning die-marriage that I wanted to upgrade. Mine was only AG or so, while the coin depicted graded about VG-10. It also turned out to not be cleaned or otherwise altered.
After that, I never saw anything else worth bidding on and lost track of them long ago.
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It's like using the option on Microsoft Teams that will blur your background.
LOL, looks like my first attempt with photoshop to try out the retouch tools.
This coin and auction remind me of the old forum mantra: there must be a reason it isn't in a graded TPG holder.
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no & hmmpt, pass
On a slight tangent, what do you guys think of these 'off-brand' auction sites (don't mean to insult anyone, just lesser known than GC/HA/SB, like Proxibid and Auctionzip are 2 others). Are they worth keeping an eye on for actual collector coins?
The fields look almost ethereal... dreamlike... as in... you're dreamin' if you think this is real... pinch me before I spend real money! ;-)
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It would be a firm pass from me. It’s either a lot of work with Photoshop, or the surfaces have been manipulated considerably. Either way it’s a no go for a straight grade, and would be coin I would never like if I owned it.
I have two Bust Dollars which are graded AU-58, You can agree or disagree with the grades. The 1800 was gaded EF-45, 50 years ago.
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They're fine if you avoid the these kinds of coins from these kinds of sellers, and be aware that you'll be gambling on anything when it's raw. Slabbed are fine, but due diligence is crucial before sending payment to any of the outfits on here.
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Amazingly shallow depth of field to capture the devices in focus while having the fields fade out in the background like that….
(Sarcasm, just in case that wasn’t clear).
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It depends. First and foremost, operate with caution. If I were searching for something generic that is frequently found elsewhere, I probably wouldn't look at these sites. In my experience, there's rarely a bargain on the material where prices are easily established, and even if you think you're reading a photo properly, if a coin should be slabbed but isn't, there's probably a good reason. All of that is to say that it's unlikely you're getting a particularly good deal, so why add some risk?
On the other hand, I maintain some searches at these types of sites for very niche material that may unknowingly get listed. If you can outsmart a seller and the other buyers, there can be deals to had... but you really need to know what you're doing. As far as getting a deal and making money goes, I'm probably not winning by taking time to look at these searches. But for the chance to pick something for my collection that very rarely becomes available, this is just a part of the hunt, and as long as I'm hunting, if I see something (even in a different area) where I can win, I don't have a problem placing a bid.
I already know where that photo came from lol
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50 years ago (47, actually, when we opened the Grading Service) would have been by me and John and Ed. Let us agree that it is a lovely coin that I would be happy to own!
My grade was not based upon the opinion of a grading service, but upon a Superior auction catalog when the piece was last sold in public. That piece is a Bolender 20, which is a very scarce die variety. It is the discovery piece coin Bolender found, and it is the plate coin in his early dollar did variety book. It is now tied for the finest known. I bought it at the 1976 ANA Convention in New York, and have held it since then.
I stand corrected.
I was at that ANA at the old Americana Hotel. Abe Kosoff was the Banquet MC and he made a joke about it, saying that it was where collectors paid good dollars for bad quarters!