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Will this coin CAC? 1870 Seated $1 (ANA Coin #2) **RESULT POSTED 3/16/25**

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edited March 16, 2025 5:59AM in U.S. Coin Forum

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If you missed the first poll, here's the thread: Will this coin CAC? 1874-S Trade $1 (ANA Coin #1)





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Will this coin CAC? 1870 Seated $1 (ANA Coin #2) **RESULT POSTED 3/16/25**

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I like it a lot and would happily own it but the right obverse field looks a little funky to me. Maybe an old thumbing or something?

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    CAC is very tough on these. I often hear “cleaning underneath the patina”, but that’s hard to tell from the pics. Love the coin though - wouldn’t mind owning it!

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I agree with 50 but too dark and that hurts the eye appeal. No for a CAC sticker. Looks like one you have to throw a ton of light on to get good images. If it's not as dark as it appears then it has a shot.

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 439 ✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I like the look of it but I don't think CAC does.

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  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I voted that it would CAC. however I'm on the fence because of the small lines on the right obverse, to the right and down from the elbow. I feel that it's other merits, still nice surfaces and luster, may push it over.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50/50.

    The coin looks like it may have had an old cleaning and the right obverse field looks funky. Hard to tell from your pictures; the slab shot and glamour shot look like two different coins.

    I think overall it’s a nice looking coin regardless of what JA says.

  • shishshish Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Nice coin, the only area of concern is the right obverse field.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I don't see this one garnering a bean. Still a pretty decent looking SLD for the grade.


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  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I’d have to see it in hand to be sure of my vote. But I don’t see anything in the images that would not pass it. Really depends on how it looks under a light……………

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2025 5:30PM
    No, it won't pass

    @VanHalen said:
    I agree with 50 but too dark and that hurts the eye appeal. No for a CAC sticker. Looks like one you have to throw a ton of light on to get good images. If it's not as dark as it appears then it has a shot.

    If, as I’d guess, the coin fails to sticker, I think it will be due to the scratches in the right obverse field and/or cleaning. On its own, the color doesn’t look dark enough to preclude a sticker. In the case of Seated Dollars, darker can be a good thing, as long as the coin hasn’t been cleaned.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I see intentional light scratches in the right obverse field. It’s too bad it’s there, but the light marks don’t have random look to them.

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I just think it’s a pleasant 45 with claims to 50. Claims to 50 does not a sticker make in a 50 holder.

  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I am on the fence but decided to vote yes. I like the coin either way. If it were me, it would probably tag along with other coins that I was more confident with just to save some shipping.

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not vote because I know little about how CAC views Seated Dollars but would only make this comment. PCGS usually puts a great deal of emphasis on luster when looking at AU coins. I only have this picture to go by but I think this coin just squeaked by and I would have guessed 45. James

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not offering an opinion as the coin needs to be seen in hand to understand the obverse fields.

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Yes, based on the grade, totally deserving.

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If a coin is original, CAC will sticker it, even though it may be dark. I have an expensive Flowing Hair Dollar which is dark, original and stickered. From what I've seen, they won't sticker a cleaned coin.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2025 11:51AM
    Yes, Green CAC

    It’s a nice looking coin with clean surfaces. My vote CAC.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I like it more as a 45.

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 921 ✭✭✭✭

    I've submitted a few Trade Dollars myself with only one in 10 stickered so far. Yes they are tough on Trades. My take is that it would not sticker because it likely has already been there a couple times. I've seen 20 to 30 percent premiums paid for CAC stickered NGC and PCGS coins. That's certainly good incentive to get another opinion.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I like the color, but the X shaped scratches In the right field bother me.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    Congratulations on the results. This helps me see the folly in grading from photos. I'm sure these pieces look great in-hand. I'm 0 for 2 on your reveals thus far.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    So it means that the surfaces meet CAC’s expectations. You have a good eye buying it, well done.

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