So far in this post season the SEC has proven itself to be what I called it mid-season, a conference with a few good teams and a bunch of average teams, nothing more.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I expected LSU and Missouri to lose from the opt outs I posted before the games.
Funny you didn't mention this until AFTER the games were played
Fact remains ALL teams have a lot of opt outs in the bowl games these days.
Except I did mention it before the games an no all teams dont have a bunch of NFL talent opting out
But you said the sec teams have the most draft picks and high star players, so they should be able to re-load with the backups with no problem.
Penn State had more opt outs than Clemson, yet they still won by two touchdowns.
They do have more star power and more draft picks. But as Ive said for a year now this isnt 2012 anymore. 4 and 5 stars dont sit on the bench if they arent starting. They transfer somewhere they can start freshman year then transfer back if it goes well.
Missouri has their back up QB making his 3rd start ever with mostly back up WRs playing. LSU has multiple defensive players that are going to the NFL opt out including at least one that will very likely be in the first round.
Texas will likely lose to Michigan now that 7 of their 11 starting defensive players have said they arent going to play unless their offense that has a bunch of RBs saying theyre likely opting out goes off.
No one cares about low level opt outs, well shouldnt anyways which is why I never mention them unless theyre significant.
I expected LSU and Missouri to lose from the opt outs I posted before the games.
Funny you didn't mention this until AFTER the games were played
Fact remains ALL teams have a lot of opt outs in the bowl games these days.
Except I did mention it before the games an no all teams dont have a bunch of NFL talent opting out
What's Texas A@M excuse?
QB play. Reed isnt that good and they cant find a QB to save their life since Manzel. They either always get hurt like King and do better elsewhere or just arent that good
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basebal says Texas likely loses to Michigan, despite all that went down with their coach.. Vegas has Texas a 7.5 favorite.
Also according to the ESPN Football Power Index, they(espn) gave LSU a 67.4% chance of beating Houston.
Did you miss the part that not only was their DC fired but 7 of their 11 starters on defense have opted out and theres rumors their DT will be the 8th?
Theres only so many significant opt outs a team can have. I take Texas every time if this game was played a month ago
@coolstanley said:
basebal says Texas likely loses to Michigan, despite all that went down with their coach.. Vegas has Texas a 7.5 favorite.
Also according to the ESPN Football Power Index, they(espn) gave LSU a 67.4% chance of beating Houston.
Did you miss the part that not only was their DC fired but 7 of their 11 starters on defense have opted out and theres rumors their DT will be the 8th?
Theres only so many significant opt outs a team can have. I take Texas every time if this game was played a month ago
You do realize that vegas factors in opt outs right? Arch Manning is a lot better QB than Bryce Underwood.
@coolstanley said:
basebal says Texas likely loses to Michigan, despite all that went down with their coach.. Vegas has Texas a 7.5 favorite.
Also according to the ESPN Football Power Index, they(espn) gave LSU a 67.4% chance of beating Houston.
Did you miss the part that not only was their DC fired but 7 of their 11 starters on defense have opted out and theres rumors their DT will be the 8th?
Theres only so many significant opt outs a team can have. I take Texas every time if this game was played a month ago
You do realize that vegas factors in opt outs right? Arch Manning is a lot better QB than Bryce Underwood.
They set lines to influence betting behavior so they dont lose their pants on a single game.
Im not going to be shocked if Texas wins, but theres a lot missing from the defense.
I do agree Arch is better than Underwood who I think is over rated but hes basically facing a second string defense. If he cant look good against that its time to find someone else
In a nutshell, I will translate from basebal-eese: the best players and the best teams are in the SEC but all the good players opt out of these games, the teams they play don’t lose anyone to opt outs.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Tennessee had 5 NFL players opt out for the draft. Their best LB, their best WR, their best DL man pass rusher, and their 2 best corners. Granted one of the corners was injured but the result isnt surprising with how many NFL guys they were missing
Illinois defeats Tennessee in Tennessee's backyard!!! Tennessee was just another among many overranked sec teams. For the second year in a row. Illinois beat a SEC team in a bowl game, as they will finish in the final top 25 polls and Tennessee will not.
USC had a 10 point lead with 4 minutes to play in the 4th quarter and loses in overtime. Luckily for TCU, they had the home crowd advantage.
USC, outside of the ROSE BOWL has a VERY poor record in bowl games.
Well, there’s only one Opt Out for Vanderbilt of any consequence, so I wonder what the basebal excuse will be for this game. Comes the day when he’ll have to find a new one because this Opt Out BS is getting old.
Just another average SEC team that the Polls kept in play getting beat be a lowly Big 10 team.
Maybe Ferentz didn’t get the memo. 😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Im honestly not sure whats so complicated about the fact that missing NFL players makes your team worse. Even if you just sign a practice squad contract youre in the top 3 percent of college players.
Vandy had Sowers opt out for the draft who is their leading receiver. Iowa didnt
The two of you thinking that losing talent doesnt matter or make a team worse is what is priceless. The regular season results were very different than these exhibition games
Every games been one possession and every game had had NFL otp outs sometimes many by the losing team. Yet during the regular season they had a winning record,
The refusal to acknowledge that who wears a jersey matters just means theres nothing to talk about intelligently
Supposedly Underwood is going to transfer to LSU with Kiffin where he would do better, but all those picks against the Texas back up defense is a yikes
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Funny you didn't mention this until AFTER the games were played
Fact remains ALL teams have a lot of opt outs in the bowl games these days.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
So far in this post season the SEC has proven itself to be what I called it mid-season, a conference with a few good teams and a bunch of average teams, nothing more.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
That’s the story of the B1G as well.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
But, but, but, but……………..
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Sadly, FOX announcer Gus Johnson won’t be doing the playoffs.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Except I did mention it before the games an no all teams dont have a bunch of NFL talent opting out
Fire AJ Preller
But you said the sec teams have the most draft picks and high star players, so they should be able to re-load with the backups with no problem.
Penn State had more opt outs than Clemson, yet they still won by two touchdowns.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
It’s probably time to opt out of defending the SEC’s incompetence.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
New Years eve
Texas, Utah and OSU winners???
Texas
Nebraska
Ohio State
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Watching the JLAB Birmingham Bow and there must be at 1,000 people in the stands. Sort of embarrassing.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
What's Texas A@M excuse?
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
A couple of good BIG TEN bowl games Tuesday night.
USC VS TCU
Tennessee vs Illinois.
Tennessee didnt have to travel very far. The game is in Nashville LOL.
Also TCU playing in their home State of Texas. So basically road games for the two BIG TEN teams.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
Also on new years eve Iowa vs Vanderbilt.
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Yep I forgot
What's your thoughts?
Texas? Utah? OSU?
My picks.........Iowa, Utah, Texas, Ohio State
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
They do have more star power and more draft picks. But as Ive said for a year now this isnt 2012 anymore. 4 and 5 stars dont sit on the bench if they arent starting. They transfer somewhere they can start freshman year then transfer back if it goes well.
Missouri has their back up QB making his 3rd start ever with mostly back up WRs playing. LSU has multiple defensive players that are going to the NFL opt out including at least one that will very likely be in the first round.
Texas will likely lose to Michigan now that 7 of their 11 starting defensive players have said they arent going to play unless their offense that has a bunch of RBs saying theyre likely opting out goes off.
No one cares about low level opt outs, well shouldnt anyways which is why I never mention them unless theyre significant.
Fire AJ Preller
QB play. Reed isnt that good and they cant find a QB to save their life since Manzel. They either always get hurt like King and do better elsewhere or just arent that good
Fire AJ Preller
basebal says Texas likely loses to Michigan, despite all that went down with their coach.. Vegas has Texas a 7.5 favorite.
Also according to the ESPN Football Power Index, they(espn) gave LSU a 67.4% chance of beating Houston.
2025 SEC bowl record 4-10
SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
I pick Michigan over Texas
Did you miss the part that not only was their DC fired but 7 of their 11 starters on defense have opted out and theres rumors their DT will be the 8th?
Theres only so many significant opt outs a team can have. I take Texas every time if this game was played a month ago
Fire AJ Preller
You do realize that vegas factors in opt outs right? Arch Manning is a lot better QB than Bryce Underwood.
2025 SEC bowl record 4-10
SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
They set lines to influence betting behavior so they dont lose their pants on a single game.
Im not going to be shocked if Texas wins, but theres a lot missing from the defense.
I do agree Arch is better than Underwood who I think is over rated but hes basically facing a second string defense. If he cant look good against that its time to find someone else
Fire AJ Preller
In a nutshell, I will translate from basebal-eese: the best players and the best teams are in the SEC but all the good players opt out of these games, the teams they play don’t lose anyone to opt outs.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Watching Tennessee vs. Illinois, finally a game with fans in the stands.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Good game from both teams as Illinois keeps the Big 10 undefeated this Bowl season with a last second FG against Tennessee, sinking the SEC to 2-5.
I feel I should add that there were some Opt Outs!! 😂😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
USC vs. TCU is a good match, starting to heat up before the half.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Tennessee had 5 NFL players opt out for the draft. Their best LB, their best WR, their best DL man pass rusher, and their 2 best corners. Granted one of the corners was injured but the result isnt surprising with how many NFL guys they were missing
Fire AJ Preller
NFL Players. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Ill let you figure it out on your own what the difference is between transferring and opting out for the draft
Fire AJ Preller
TCU pulls it out in a come from behind thriller in OT!! That game had a lot going on and some good play from both sides.
Way to go TCU.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Illinois defeats Tennessee in Tennessee's backyard!!! Tennessee was just another among many overranked sec teams. For the second year in a row. Illinois beat a SEC team in a bowl game, as they will finish in the final top 25 polls and Tennessee will not.
USC had a 10 point lead with 4 minutes to play in the 4th quarter and loses in overtime. Luckily for TCU, they had the home crowd advantage.
USC, outside of the ROSE BOWL has a VERY poor record in bowl games.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
But these SEC teams are being affected by Opt Outs, don’t you know that?? The Big 10 teams have none. 😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Illinois was missing Jacus. That was a hit for them on the DL. Good win Tennessee regardless. I still hate Bielema.
The sec heisman runnerup finding out they play defense in the BIG TEN, so far held to a FG in the first half.
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All of a sudden Iowa realized there is a second half to. play
Well, there’s only one Opt Out for Vanderbilt of any consequence, so I wonder what the basebal excuse will be for this game. Comes the day when he’ll have to find a new one because this Opt Out BS is getting old.
Just another average SEC team that the Polls kept in play getting beat be a lowly Big 10 team.
Maybe Ferentz didn’t get the memo. 😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Job well done by Iowa
Hey basebal:
Big 10 - - - 7-1.
SEC - - - 2-6.
OPT OUTS - - - Priceless!! 😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Like I always say,....SOS is a bogus stat.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
Im honestly not sure whats so complicated about the fact that missing NFL players makes your team worse. Even if you just sign a practice squad contract youre in the top 3 percent of college players.
Vandy had Sowers opt out for the draft who is their leading receiver. Iowa didnt
The two of you thinking that losing talent doesnt matter or make a team worse is what is priceless. The regular season results were very different than these exhibition games
The jersey doesnt matter, whose wearing it does
Fire AJ Preller
Vanderbilt was the team who had the heisman runner up, and was favored by 5.5 points.
There are no excuses.
The sec teams are overranked.
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SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
Every games been one possession and every game had had NFL otp outs sometimes many by the losing team. Yet during the regular season they had a winning record,
The refusal to acknowledge that who wears a jersey matters just means theres nothing to talk about intelligently
Fire AJ Preller
2025 SEC bowl record 4-10
SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
Arch may not have lived up to the lofty expectations this season, but damn he can run
kid looks like an RB who can run a 4.4 out there
On the other side of the coin, Underwood needs to learn how to pass. He's not very good.
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Well, no win for Michigan!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I just hope the greatest player to ever play college football… the great Pavia.. is OK. Good win for Iowa.
Nebraska and Michigan both got embarrassed.
Arch finally looked like what all the hype is
Supposedly Underwood is going to transfer to LSU with Kiffin where he would do better, but all those picks against the Texas back up defense is a yikes
Fire AJ Preller