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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, just for the record, in my eyes, the PSA 9 card I got on Yount is better than the 10. I likely will try that card again

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  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @balco758 said:
    Tom - love the Garvey.

    Unreal the Garvey got a 10. I wouldn't even have considered sending that one in myself.

  • smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭

    Love and want the Bird!


    Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
  • Kepper19Kepper19 Posts: 364 ✭✭✭

    @RonSportscards said:

    @balco758 said:
    Tom - love the Garvey.

    Unreal the Garvey got a 10. I wouldn't even have considered sending that one in myself.

    There are some beauties in this lot, but I for one don't want to see stray ink spots in the white borders on cards in a PSA 10 holder...like the top edge of the PSA 10 Yount, the right border of the PSA 10 Garvey (almost seems like that is a stray piece of material caught when the card was encapsulated, as it is much too big to be in a PSA 10 holder?) and the left border of the PSA 10 Schmidt...I would want to see PSA 9 as the highest possible grade on cards like those, but it's always a crap shoot, especially with the older cards and even more so with the OPCs

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kepper19 said:

    There are some beauties in this lot, but I for one don't want to see stray ink spots in the white borders on cards in a PSA 10 holder...like the top edge of the PSA 10 Yount, the right border of the PSA 10 Garvey (almost seems like that is a stray piece of material caught when the card was encapsulated, as it is much too big to be in a PSA 10 holder?) and the left border of the PSA 10 Schmidt...I would want to see PSA 9 as the highest possible grade on cards like those, but it's always a crap shoot, especially with the older cards and even more so with the OPCs

    This goes to knowing the 1977 O-pee-Chee cards.....
    Every Schmidt card has the print dot on the left edge
    Every Fidrych has the red spot on bottom edge
    There are many cards in this set that have spots/marks that are on every card produced.
    The Yount and Garvey are scans that came from PSA. those spots are not on the cards. I noticed the right edge on the Garvey as well and couldn't wait to check it out. First thing I looked for the package came back and it's not on the card.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice post mcnasty.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭

    You can call me Filthy.

    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Koosman "grassy knoll" card.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are absolutely ridiculous.

  • jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭

    WOW!!! Awesome!!

    -- Ryan Bell
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭

    These are awesome!!

    Collector Focus

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  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    The Koosman "grassy knoll" card.

    Something pooped on his cap.

    Always in the market for game used kinesiology tape and smelly socks.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:

    @bgr said:
    The Koosman "grassy knoll" card.

    Something pooped on his cap.

    Sniper.

  • GrooGroo Posts: 303 ✭✭✭

    @tsalems1 said:



    FYI blocking the cert # but leaving the barcode exposed is pretty much a waste of your time :smiley:

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was also enough visibility for me to figure out enough numbers to determine the sequence. I didn’t want to say anything before. I couldn’t help myself. They were so stunning.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    awesome!!! that was probably the best opc rip in history.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't get nothing past you guys 😁

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2025 11:20AM

    Whats your secret trick on the Great grades!
    Did you just send in only 1977 OPC on the order. I had a mix of OPC with topps cards and randoms. The OPCs got hammered to 6-7s and I thought they were 10s only. And pack fresh. Just trying to learn the new system.

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    Whats your secret trick on the Great grades!
    Did you just send in only 1977 OPC on the order. I had a mix of OPC with topps cards and randoms. The OPCs got hammered to 6-7s and I thought they were 10s only. And pack fresh. Just trying to learn the new system.

    I have no system. I'm no different than anyone else and always get headscratchers back. This batch was a mix of OPC 1977 and Topps Hockey. Got PSA 10's on the hockey as well. PSA standards have changed as we all know and sometimes you have to pay 2 or 3 times to get the grade you want :'(

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tom do you fell like you get a lower grade with the rough cuts. i got crushed by SGC on 2 1973 OPC's Kaline and Roy white. They look like 7's or 8's and I got 3's, no creases. Is PSA taking the rough cuts into consideration, as far as you can tell?

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    Tom do you fell like you get a lower grade with the rough cuts. i got crushed by SGC on 2 1973 OPC's Kaline and Roy white. They look like 7's or 8's and I got 3's, no creases. Is PSA taking the rough cuts into consideration, as far as you can tell?

    Just seeing this. The 77's I sent honestly were not that rough. Maybe a small amount but some OPC cards can have very rough cuts. I don't think these were hit because of the cuts. My concern has always been, who is looking at my cards when I send in OPC. I fear someone who is not familiar with their cuts will crush me.

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  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭✭

    Great stuff. I just have to add this comment though. It's too bad that Canadians didn't get to experience the all star badges and rookie cups! The affected cards just look so sad without them.

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice…”rejects”

    mint_only_pls
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tsalems1 said:

    My concern has always been, who is looking at my cards when I send in OPC. I fear someone who is not familiar with their cuts will crush me.

    That's true for non OPC too. These days, it's all in who grades an order. If it's an experienced, longtime vintage grader, then you'll get grades like we've come to expect after submitting cards over the past few decades. If you get a newer grader, good luck with your order. I've migrated to small orders and only making a few submissions a year. The days of submitting 500 card orders are gone for me.

  • GrooGroo Posts: 303 ✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    8 -> 10 bumps tell you everything you need to know about PSA's authority on quality of a sports card.

    and also thay there are not multiple graders looking at each card

  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 751 ✭✭✭✭

    @tsalems1 said:

    @tsalems1 said:

    @handyman said:
    Whats your secret trick on the Great grades!
    Did you just send in only 1977 OPC on the order. I had a mix of OPC with topps cards and randoms. The OPCs got hammered to 6-7s and I thought they were 10s only. And pack fresh. Just trying to learn the new system.

    I have no system. I'm no different than anyone else and always get headscratchers back. This batch was a mix of OPC 1977 and Topps Hockey. Got PSA 10's on the hockey as well. PSA standards have changed as we all know and sometimes you have to pay 2 or 3 times to get the grade you want :'(

    These were all PSA 8 crack outs. Took a 2nd trip to the Headquarters and likely got a new set of eyes checking them out

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 145 SAL BANDO
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 173 BOBBY BONDS
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 178 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 178 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 183 MARTY PEREZ
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 193 DAVE ROBERTS
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 138 WAYNE GARLAND
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 137 CARLTON FISK
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 137 CARLTON FISK
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 127 JOSE CARDENAL
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 113 RANDY JONES
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 258 DAVE CONCEPCION
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 253 FRANK DUFFY
    GEM MINT 10

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 237 RICK BURLESON
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 209 JEFF BURROUGHS
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 220 JOE MORGAN
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 220 JOE MORGAN
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 227 J.R. RICHARD
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 2 HOME RUN LEADERS G.NETTLES/M.SCHMIDT
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 2 HOME RUN LEADERS G.NETTLES/M.SCHMIDT
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 2 HOME RUN LEADERS G.NETTLES/M.SCHMIDT
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 5 VICTORY LEADERS J.PALMER/R.JONES
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 5 VICTORY LEADERS J.PALMER/R.JONES
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 8 LEADING FIREMEN B.CAMPBELL/R.EASTWICK
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 11 KEN GRIFFEY
    GEM MINT 10

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 14 MILT MAY
    GEM MINT 10

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 25 WILLIE STARGELL
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 38 DAVE ROBERTS
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 39 RAY FOSSE
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 44 ROGER METZGER
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 64 JASON THOMPSON
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 78 KEN FORSCH
    PSA 10

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 79 WILLIE MONTANEZ
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 87 LUIS TIANT
    MINT 9

    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 88 RUSTY STAUB
    NEAR MINT-MINT

    Congrats
    What was the price to regrade all the cards ?

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bulk submission. I'm not sure, like $18 per I think

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  • jordangretzkyfanjordangretzkyfan Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow….4 cards jumped from PSA 8 to PSA 10! Congrats. Speaks volumes to the subjective grading.

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BBBrkrr said:
    So, 21 of 35 were bumped up when cracked/resent?!?

    That's a crazy percentage of success but also a crazy percentage of head scratching ambiguity that says more about the grading process at PSA than anything.

    Congratulations. That's such an awesome set and you deserve them all for being so persistent.

    This is correct

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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2025 6:21PM

    This is now a Pop 1 none higher
    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 39 RAY FOSSE
    MINT 9
    This is also now a Pop 1
    1977 O-PEE-CHEE 253 FRANK DUFFY
    GEM MINT 10

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  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow, amazing bumps. The volume of bumps is wild. Are you going to make one more attempt, or are you satisfied with the 9's?

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lahmejoon said:
    Wow, amazing bumps. The volume of bumps is wild. Are you going to make one more attempt, or are you satisfied with the 9's?

    No idea what my plan is, Lol

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  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    did you crack them out or have them do it when you subbed?

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