2024 MLB playoff thread
Darin
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Royals somehow outpitched Corbin Burnes and won 1-0. Great job by Cole Ragans and three relievers.
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Go Royals.
Brewers had a rough game Chourio helped the Crew take the lead in the bottom of the 4th but a bad read on a line drive by former brewer Tyrone Taylor set the stage for a 5 run 5th by the Mets and that was that. Brewers have to put together 2 good games to avoid yet another early elimination.
I’m not going to second guess a manager but Joel Payamps hasn’t been crisp often over the last couple months so I wasn’t a fan of ending Peralta’s night after 4 IP and 68 pitches considering how he shut down the 3rd and 4th innings. BP has to be better regardless.
KC sweeps the Orioles! 🥳
The Royals only allowed the Orioles to score 1 run in two games. Good thing because KC only scored 3 runs.
Way to lead the way Cole Ragans and Seth Lugo! The relievers followed your example and locked down both games. Amazing!
Now even if the Yankees destroy KC it’s still a great season and one they can build on. 👍
Bgr good luck to the Brewers I’ll be rooting for them!
The Tigers are scary good right now. If you don’t know they were something like 31-11 to finish the regular season. And now they just swept the astros to advance in the playoffs.
Detroit is on a roll - Swept Houston. Now vs Guardians on Saturday.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
That was great. Congrats. Bring on the Yanks.
Good thing that they didn't have to face the White Sox in the first round.
Royals, KC or Padres
Anyone of those teams win then I'm fine with it
Hate the Yankees above all.
Bgr’s Brewers had a nice comeback win over the Mets yesterday. Chourio looks like a future superstar at only 20 years old.
That was a great comeback indeed and what I think they needed to get over the proverbial hump in these playoffs. Myers on the hill tonight. Season on the line. Love it.
Great win by the Royals too. Love the playoffs where anyone can win.
Also wouldn't mind the Brewers winning either, go beat the Mets!
i've taken cursory glances at the scores and that's pretty remarkable for me
last night i saw the Brewers down in the 8th, then i looked it up and saw that they were down a game in the series, and i thought "the end." nice comeback indeed, with my boy Devin closing the door like a champ.
i'm pulling for KC and Milwaukee for no other reason than darin and bgr
and as an aside, does anyone else find the first round of the MLB playoffs to be extremely anticlimactic? think about it. one hundred sixty-two games for half a year, then lose two straight or two of three and you're playing golf. just like that. best-of-5 feels right to me. my dos centavos.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Yup. MLB has taken heartbreak to new level. "Hey, baseball fans spend 6 months of your life living and dying by the achievements of your team, then watch them cough it up in the span of 24 hours! Life is fleeting, so is this!"
Gobble.
I really don't like the best of 3 series, but I do like that the playoffs are expanded from what they were before the wild card rounds. Best of 5 certainly gives the better team a better chance. Wild Card says it all right?
The entire first round wild card is a farce. It is nothing more than an obvious ploy to extract more money for the owners. Everyone knows it's not really the playoffs - it is just two games.
12 teams in the "playoffs"? What is this, the NHL?
I do not have time for ignorant trolls.
ignore list: 1948_Swell_Robinson, Darin, bgr, bronco2078, dallasactuary
is no where safe?!
Did I leave the oven on?
Gobble.
It’s still a hell of an accomplishment for the Tigers and Royals to get past that wildcard round because no matter if it’s a 2 or 3 game series they are all on the road. Huge advantage for the higher seed but those two teams got it done as the visiting team.
Those orioles are such cute little birds… but kind of looks out of place sitting on the throne 🤔
This looks a little more appropriate……😂
Musgrove undergoing testing on his elbow after leaving the game early last night with elbow tightness. Good chance his playoffs are over
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Back to Back! Bauers & Frelick. Wow.
alonso is a stud. what a team player.
Brewers deserved to lose that one if their closer is going to give away bases and fall behind every hitter.
Brewers blowing that game was amazing. Hopefully we get a Padres Phillies NLCS, that would be an exciting series
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Well congrats to Grote’s Mets. I know he’s been a fan for a long time. Great win. 🥳
Tough loss bgr.
a part of me doesn't want to do this, because i know the wound is still very fresh for at least one person in this thread. i genuinely feel for bgr and Milwaukee fans everywhere. i caught the 9th inning last night and it was a difficult watch for even me.
i've talked about Devin Williams -- the Brewers' closer -- for weeks now. i knew nothing about him prior to my trip to St Louis back in Aug. he struggled in one of the games i saw and blew a save the following night, and that prompted me to look him up. i couldn't believe it. his stats were eye-popping. and he had been nails for multiple years.
after that series i kept up with him. from Aug 21 (the night i watched him blow a save) until Oct 2, he was as good a closer as any team could ever hope to have. total dominance. did not give up a single run and was virtually unhittable. then Oct 3 happened, which was last night.
yesterday morning i very nearly said in this thread that all Milwaukee needs to do in G3 is be ahead after the end of the 8th. that happened. but then what happened in the 9th gave me flashbacks to Aug 21: Williams not only falling behind and walking hitters, but missing the plate by a considerable margin with many of his pitches. really inexplicable stuff with as good as he is. when he walked the leadoff hitter last night i had a sinking feeling in my stomach. i won't touch on what happened after that. i empathize with the guy -- it had to have been the loneliest feeling out on that mound.
check out his game log, starting from the aforementioned games in St Louis until last night. truly amazing. the only thing i can come up with is that the moment must have gotten to him. you know what they say about pressure -- it can make diamonds or burst pipes.
sorry about last night bgr, i really am
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Thankfully Brewers fans are well prepared for disappointment. Breaking fans hearts since 2018.
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It was a fun season and a joy to watch. Lots of young players in Milwaukee for fans to get excited about for years to come. Hopefully we still get a few more years of Uecker calling some games.
I think I want to see a Dodgers vs. Phillies NLCS. Power vs Power.
But for WS champ I’m gonna have to go with the AL version of my club - the Royals. Go Royals! I’ll be wearing my Cain jersey.
Sad that Front Row Amy will be packing it in for the winter.
Gobble.
Looks like the Brewers reliever was tipping his pitches last night.
https://youtu.be/t7z8aaZ7gIk?si=yakC9JoUiPcbodkf
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I don’t know countD but that guy sounds like complete nonsense to me. He’s saying his hand is deeper in the glove for a fastball but the batter can’t distinguish that because the GLOVE is in the way. As far as the glove being a half inch higher, yeah right you can’t tell me the batter can notice that while he’s getting ready for the pitch. 🙄
His coach mentioned it. It was right there in the video. These guys are trained to notice nuances in a pitcher's delivery. They formulate a plan of attack based on expectations, but is it still a guessing game to a guy who's swung a bat a billion times over? Alonso guessed right between the 2 pitches he'd seen and knew that it was a 50/50 no matter what. He won the bet.
Gobble.
You have to look close to notice any difference from a back angle so you’re not telling me the batter can notice any difference
That's exactly what I'm telling you. Nuance. His coach told him what to look for. The sad reality is that Devin Williams didn't employ the use of a 3RD PITCH, which tells you he had no ability to control anything other than a 50/50 proposition. His fastball was sailing higher and higher towards the press box the prior 2 pitches. I'm not saying Alonso knew EXACTLY what was coming, but he didn't need to work too hard at guessing right.
Gobble.
Jomboy can read lips when player/manager/umpire is facing away from the camera, so I have no doubt major league hitters can notice a glove flare or hands held higher in the set position.
MLB hitters absolutely can see small differences like that. Its in scouting reports, theres people looking for it etc. Everything from height of the glove to movement in the glove, release angle showing a different tunnel etc can all tip pitches. Its a subconscious reaction by hitters where they pick it up and react to it
Unless youre a pitcher or defensive specialist you dont get to the MLB if you cant pick up on things. Other than leg kick timing disruptions a pitchers whole goal is to have everything exactly the same every pitch and every single pitch to come out of the same tunnel before it starts moving.
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Let’s see it from the batters angle
Yeah, they should all wear a Go-Pro.
Gobble.
Jomboy has done multiple videos on this over the years. I don't know if any show from the batters' perspective, but this gives you a good idea of what hitters are zoning in on.
https://youtu.be/DcoB3G2Gj7w?si=l_9c8H2srRywrwvZ
https://youtu.be/lFOtsJZp_iw?si=NVAENVoTVDX4O0Fi
https://youtu.be/kIpU6Y4xLwk?si=yIrwRsFLoHlo6mzW
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I do appreciate Jomboy and Pitching Ninja trying to bring some of the more nuanced things to fans. Bauer has done a good job too on his channel. Elite athletes are on a different level. Just because someone cant see something from their couch doesnt mean it wasnt seen on the field.
Its a chess battle between pitchers and hitters. Hitters are looking at the pitchers movements and what is and isnt working and pitchers are trying to set things up. If a pitch isnt working batters will eliminate it
Hitter have to pick up a baseball from about 55 feet or less away when its released going 90+ miles per hour yet somehow theres doubt that they dont notice small things?
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I’m not saying pitchers don’t tip pitches, but I am saying from the picture I posted no batter is going to notice the difference between the two. A half inch no, three or four of course.
Of the 2 pics I posted if the batter saw either one he’s going is that the high pose or the low pose.
There’s no doubt how often you’ve been wrong on this forum but you don’t seem to notice.
Dude you’re no expert on sports
you’re just long winded.
In fairness Williams is a two-pitch pitcher. It was, at worst, a coin flip. You can tell Alonso was waiting back considering he hit a change-up opposite field. It was a 3-1 count and I'm pretty sure Williams didn't want to walk him and put the tying run in scoring position. That change up was a little high and leaked right over the outer half of the plate. I think they have a name for that pitch, so maybe he's a 3-pitch pitcher. 4-seam, change-up, & meatball. Anyways.
We have to also remember this was also the dude who said Catchers don't call pitches anymore because .... how the heck would they... telekinesis? Then walked it back to... well in high school and college they don't so why would they in the minors and majors. Then walked it back to... well not many of them do. Sanchez was wearing it on his left leg above the knee guard.
I don't want to make excuses for Williams or take anything away from Alonso. I appreciate the big moment and the incredible rally to win the series by the Mets.
If you want to get upset and lash out thats your choice.
Hitters make a decision to swing in less than 1/10th of a second. Just because you cant see something or your algorithm cant tell you the nuances of the games that elite level players and pro players know doesnt mean its not happening. If you want to believe that an MLB hitter cant notice something because you cant then by all means do so
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Just because it’s possible Alonso knew it was going to be a change doesn’t mean he knew it was going to be a change.
The fact that hitters key off spin, arm angle, release point, or numerous other factors doesn’t prove he did. And not saying he didn’t but why are you so sure?
Does anyone realize that these baseball professionals are employing skills they've been perfecting since they were 5-year olds playing T-Ball?
Gobble.
He doesnt have to be 100 percent sure. Watch the AB. It was the 3rd off speed of the AB where he picked something up. He didnt take a homerun swing hes just got so much power the ball left the yard. The AB started with a middle middle BP pitch that froze him.
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I’m never watching that AB again. It’s seared into my mind. I see the pitch when I close my eyes.
Also, that ball went over a shorter part of the fence. About 10 feet or so to Frelick's right, maybe he catches that ball and it's a sac fly.
Gobble.
The homerun pitch really wasnt a bad pitch. It was a little higher than youd like but he was sitting on that pitch. You dont swing at a pitch starting outside that works back in in a 3-1 count if youre guessing. He probably was trying to just get a sac fly and his power took it out
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The Mets pitcher who gave up 2 straight home runs must have been tipping his pitches.