@Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
@seatedlib3991 said: @Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
Click on his user name and click the "message" button. I sent you a PM as well.
@seatedlib3991 said: @Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
Click on his name and when his profile comes up, at the top of the page us a "message" button.
A message sent that way might be visible to everyone on your "wall", so a better way is to go into your own profile under "inbox" and initiate a new message.
@seatedlib3991 said: @Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
Obviously you don’t know, but only contact Mark via a buffer, never directly with this confidential information.
@seatedlib3991 said: @Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
Trying to get his personal contact information? What kind of scam are you running? 😈
[Your unfounded accusations are unfair and a violation of forum rules. ]
The website is bare bones and absolutely no return policy. The grading yt video is kinda like a high school classroom presentation. Not to mention saying our hosts grading is inaccurate. Houston, we have a problem.
@Pumpkinhead said:
Yikes… Please watch some of those YT videos. I think I spy a duck walking and quacking in the (very near) distance…
But he is clearly a kid.
Hey, I’m a city guy… One farm animal looks pretty much like any other to me…
But (“Now for something completely different”), the “aw shucks, just trying to learn” tone on the forum is certainly not replicated in the videos… A neophyte or non-numismatist might well find them compelling… Empty wallet to follow…
@Pumpkinhead said:
Yikes… Please watch some of those YT videos. I think I spy a duck walking and quacking in the (very near) distance…
But he is clearly a kid.
Hey, I’m a city guy… One farm animal looks pretty much like any other to me…
But (“Now for something completely different”), the “aw shucks, just trying to learn” tone on the forum is certainly not replicated in the videos… A neophyte or non-numismatist might well find them compelling… Empty wallet to follow…
The more humble version appeared after he was humbled on the forum. Anyone who finds those videos compelling and buys something from the kid deserves what they get. There's nothing criminal about being a confident neophyte.
@Pumpkinhead said:
Yikes… Please watch some of those YT videos. I think I spy a duck walking and quacking in the (very near) distance…
But he is clearly a kid.
Hey, I’m a city guy… One farm animal looks pretty much like any other to me…
But (“Now for something completely different”), the “aw shucks, just trying to learn” tone on the forum is certainly not replicated in the videos… A neophyte or non-numismatist might well find them compelling… Empty wallet to follow…
The more humble version appeared after he was humbled on the forum. Anyone who finds those videos compelling and buys something from the kid deserves what they get. There's nothing criminal about being a confident neophyte.
I don’t disagree with the “He should have armed himself” sentiment (imo, much too much nannying going on these days)… Just not convinced there’s a new and improved (humble) version of the kid post-forum… I’d love to be wrong about that, because youth in the hobby is something to be celebrated… the more confident the better!
@Pumpkinhead said:
I’d love to be wrong about that, because youth in the hobby is something to be celebrated… the more confident the better!
Confident, yes, cocky with dollar signs in the eyes, no.
They all start with dollar signs. When I ran the YN club at our local club, I would bring in all kinds of exotic coins as show and tell. The first question was always: how much is it worth?
He's still pretending to be a grading service and a stickering service; he just stopped pretending to be an unaffiliated customer of said service after being called out.
He's just cracking coins and trying to score. He already knows what the grades are. If you think he's going to "send these in" you're kidding yourself.
@Manifest_Destiny said:
He's just cracking coins and trying to score. He already knows what the grades are. If you think he's going to "send these in" you're kidding yourself.
Two months ago, he claimed in a YouTube video that he was sending his coins in to PCGS; obviously, he never followed through, and put the coins in his "USAB" holders instead.
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
You don't get to decide whether or when to close a thread.
@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
You don't get to decide whether or when to close a thread.
Hmmm, sounds like someone is concerned about being exposed on here and doesn’t like having themselves linked to their YT channel and website https://unitedstatesbullion.org/ on the internet for the world to lookup and see. Perhaps you should have thought about that when you first joined and played your games here.
@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs.
@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
You don't get to decide whether or when to close a thread.
Hmmm, sounds like someone is concerned about being exposed on here and doesn’t like having themselves linked to their YT channel and website https://unitedstatesbullion.org/ on the internet for the world to lookup and see. Perhaps you should have thought about that when you first joined and played your games here.
I don't care about any of that they are my businesses after all. It's the fact that none of this is relevant to the original question.
@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
You don't get to decide whether or when to close a thread.
Hmmm, sounds like someone is concerned about being exposed on here and doesn’t like having themselves linked to their YT channel and website https://unitedstatesbullion.org/ on the internet for the world to lookup and see. Perhaps you should have thought about that when you first joined and played your games here.
I don't care about any of that they are my businesses after all. It's the fact that none of this is relevant to the original question.
Just ignore them. Send in your coins. Post the results. Then they may take you seriously.
But, of course, he is thrilled to be a center of attention here, and - despite a post to the contrary - would be happy to have this “discussion” go on forever. And I suspect he’s not much concerned that his target audience is following this or, in fact, any thread on the forum.
I am not averse to what this guy does. I remind you of my own line of grading services at the Buckhorn Flea Market in Mebane, NC next to the señora who sells cooking herbs from Guanajuato.
¡Pronto llega el sevicio de pegatina de frijole verde!
@Fraz said:
I am not averse to what this guy does. I remind you of my own line of grading services at the Buckhorn Flea Market in Mebane, NC next to the señora who sells cooking herbs from Guanajuato.
¡Pronto llega el sevicio de pegatina de frijole verde!
I move that this post be removed as racist. Second?
@Fraz said:
I am not averse to what this guy does. I remind you of my own line of grading services at the Buckhorn Flea Market in Mebane, NC next to the señora who sells cooking herbs from Guanajuato.
¡Pronto llega el sevicio de pegatina de frijole verde!
I move that this post be removed as racist. Second?
It's racist against white people. No one cares about that.
@Fraz said:
I am not averse to what this guy does. I remind you of my own line of grading services at the Buckhorn Flea Market in Mebane, NC next to the señora who sells cooking herbs from Guanajuato.
¡Pronto llega el sevicio de pegatina de frijole verde!
I move that this post be removed as racist. Second?
It's racist against white people. No one cares about that.
It was a joke and I'd rather not debate it here, but the Latina lady in the story is not "white".
Comments
This looks correct.
https://m.youtube.com/@UnitedStatesBullionAndCoins
Wow dude this took an even crazier turn after seeing the website and youtube channel.
I sent some in to be graded. They're on the third month. Hope that answers your question.
@Mfeld. You are an important person on this board. Tell me how to send you a private message and I will tell you just 2 of many reasons this is a con man. i have no wish to show this crook the mistakes he is making james
Click on his user name and click the "message" button. I sent you a PM as well.
Click on his name and when his profile comes up, at the top of the page us a "message" button.
A message sent that way might be visible to everyone on your "wall", so a better way is to go into your own profile under "inbox" and initiate a new message.
OP seems to have hung on. Maybe the transgression was simply having two IDs.
Obviously you don’t know, but only contact Mark via a buffer, never directly with this confidential information.
Trying to get his personal contact information? What kind of scam are you running? 😈
[Your unfounded accusations are unfair and a violation of forum rules. ]
The website is bare bones and absolutely no return policy. The grading yt video is kinda like a high school classroom presentation. Not to mention saying our hosts grading is inaccurate. Houston, we have a problem.
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Yikes… Please watch some of those YT videos. I think I spy a duck walking and quacking in the (very near) distance…
But he is clearly a kid.
Hey, I’m a city guy… One farm animal looks pretty much like any other to me…
But (“Now for something completely different”), the “aw shucks, just trying to learn” tone on the forum is certainly not replicated in the videos… A neophyte or non-numismatist might well find them compelling… Empty wallet to follow…
The more humble version appeared after he was humbled on the forum. Anyone who finds those videos compelling and buys something from the kid deserves what they get. There's nothing criminal about being a confident neophyte.
I don’t disagree with the “He should have armed himself” sentiment (imo, much too much nannying going on these days)… Just not convinced there’s a new and improved (humble) version of the kid post-forum… I’d love to be wrong about that, because youth in the hobby is something to be celebrated… the more confident the better!
Confident, yes, cocky with dollar signs in the eyes, no.
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They all start with dollar signs. When I ran the YN club at our local club, I would bring in all kinds of exotic coins as show and tell. The first question was always: how much is it worth?
He's still pretending to be a grading service and a stickering service; he just stopped pretending to be an unaffiliated customer of said service after being called out.
it's great isn't it
He's got money from somewhere obviously.
It could be an engaging content channel, but many of his videos won't age well.
Demeans in the same manner his viewer comments despite their well intentioned critiques.
He is at a crossroads like many new collectors, but won't put in the time to grow.
Mentors and seminars would be like rocket fuel, but just continues to poke along.
He knows more than everyone but really doesn't know what he doesn't know.
Might as well listen now... or in five years
No foundation... no chance.
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He's just cracking coins and trying to score. He already knows what the grades are. If you think he's going to "send these in" you're kidding yourself.
Two months ago, he claimed in a YouTube video that he was sending his coins in to PCGS; obviously, he never followed through, and put the coins in his "USAB" holders instead.
I'm shocked this thread is still going on and yes the coins were pregraded but I plan on sending them back in through pcgs. And although some of you say the conversation I had with stacks bowers is unbelievable it is true. That is what led me to crack out some coins. Pls tell me how to close this thread its going on too long with no relevance to the initial question.
You don't get to decide whether or when to close a thread.
Hmmm, sounds like someone is concerned about being exposed on here and doesn’t like having themselves linked to their YT channel and website https://unitedstatesbullion.org/ on the internet for the world to lookup and see. Perhaps you should have thought about that when you first joined and played your games here.
I don't care about any of that they are my businesses after all. It's the fact that none of this is relevant to the original question.
Just ignore them. Send in your coins. Post the results. Then they may take you seriously.
is it still possible to make the submission public?
It is. You have to share the order in the user admin.
https://www.the4thcoin.com
https://www.ebay.com/str/thefourthcoin
It will automatically close once you stop posting.
Not if we keep posting
But, of course, he is thrilled to be a center of attention here, and - despite a post to the contrary - would be happy to have this “discussion” go on forever. And I suspect he’s not much concerned that his target audience is following this or, in fact, any thread on the forum.
We know that. 😀
+1
Ditto.
I think we should give it a chance and see what happens. It might close on it's own.
i'll second that
Yes.
A catchier name? S.A.G.A=Still Another Grading Authority.
I hope so.
The question is on the adoption of the motion that we suspend the matter until someone pipes up again.
All in favor say “aye”…
Abstain
Aye
I am not averse to what this guy does. I remind you of my own line of grading services at the Buckhorn Flea Market in Mebane, NC next to the señora who sells cooking herbs from Guanajuato.
¡Pronto llega el sevicio de pegatina de frijole verde!
I move that this post be removed as racist. Second?
It's racist against white people. No one cares about that.
It was a joke and I'd rather not debate it here, but the Latina lady in the story is not "white".
An assertion that woman who sells herbs from Mexico in North Carolina is not white contains a flaw or two.
If we need an ism, it’s newmismaticism.
Ban hammer coming if yall keep it up.
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