I grade AU Details, as that's what it appears to be to me from images and video. Maybe straight AU58 in hand (I'm about 60/40 deets from video and images).
That said, I think NGC straight grades it AU58.
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It’s a very generous giveaway no matter what it grades
Give away?
1st correct guess gets the coin right
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Yeah, that’s what I kinda understood as well.😉 Dan’s a really generous guys to do this. I I also think he doesn’t mind if we use multiple grades to improve our ‘odds!
Thanks Dan, you’re the Man!😂
They'll give it the best grade they can, heck you're paying top dollar for their grade opinion, express! For a second I thought it was an "s" mint where AU grades really matter.
This coin could be anywhere from AU to low MS, details to straight grade. Depend on the mood of the graders that day, and the images don't tell enough to decide a grade - need to see this coin in hand. So I will abstain from specifying a grade and await DD to reveal and provide a description that explains said grade.................
Looks like it was cleaned. I'm thinking NGC AU Details. But...it's really hard to see. The luster looked "odd" as well....needs really to be seen in hand.
On the cusp of MS ....it's got a great look to it. Let's hope for 58+. That would be rare. Any + would be a plus with that coin. Except one caveat: NGC don't use the +
Any guesses of 58-61 are technically "correct", and this coin is a perfect example of market vs technical grading. The NGC grade is now : MS-61
I purchased this coin as a CACG 58. Its prior owner actually purchased the coin as a PCGS 61, and this truview is probably the more accurate representation of the coin in hand:
Due to the high point rub, CAC wouldnt sticker it as a 61 and he managed to get it downgraded to PCGS 58, and it was subsequently stickered:
Then, he crossed it to CACG as a 58, and I bought it:
It’s actually a nice looking coin, great luster and pretty clean surfaces. I see that my video and pictures may have drawn too much attention to the hairlines/color. Dont get me wrong, there are a good amount of hairlines but they are omnidirectional, not indicative of cleaning. They are just typical hairlines and slide marks for a lightly circulated soft gold coin. I tried to give everyone an honest view of the coin with the video, but I think many guesses were influenced by harsh lighting the fact that the coin was raw, probably thinking that wouldnt make as much sense for me to crack out a straight graded coin. This is not a long term coin in my collection, and I felt that the coin might be more valuable in an MS holder. I was pretty confident I could get at least a 61, but I was really hoping for a 62. Here's a 62 on coinfacts:
55 guesses I thought were pretty harsh, the coin only has a touch of rub and it looks damn good compared to this PCGS/CAC 55:
As we know, pictures can make or break a GTG, and I wanted to see how everyone would do without the typical "glamour shot" truviews. Im guessing that If i had originally shared the TVs or the CACG photos, there wouldn’t have been nearly as many details guesses. Thanks for playing!
Thanks! I actually meant to give you and @Jacques_Loungecoque a shoutout for getting both grades correct, even though you were incorrect about what holder it came out of. You guys both nailed the actual technical grade and what NGC would call it though.
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I’m guessing it was an AU58. I’d call it a 60, but since that’s never really used, I’ll say it comes back as MS61.
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Yup in ledgends world probably even in the cacs too. That coin is detailed trash. As they say, go big or go home.
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I grade AU Details, as that's what it appears to be to me from images and video. Maybe straight AU58 in hand (I'm about 60/40 deets from video and images).
That said, I think NGC straight grades it AU58.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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Yeah, that’s what I kinda understood as well.😉 Dan’s a really generous guys to do this. I I also think he doesn’t mind if we use multiple grades to improve our ‘odds!
Thanks Dan, you’re the Man!😂
They'll give it the best grade they can, heck you're paying top dollar for their grade opinion, express! For a second I thought it was an "s" mint where AU grades really matter.
I unfortunately have to agree with several others, the surfaces don't look right to me. Au Details.
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My guess AU-55
NGC AU-58
It's a "Gold Eagle" an will look nice in a NGC holder no matter what the grade. IMPO.
This coin could be anywhere from AU to low MS, details to straight grade. Depend on the mood of the graders that day, and the images don't tell enough to decide a grade - need to see this coin in hand. So I will abstain from specifying a grade and await DD to reveal and provide a description that explains said grade.................
Best, SH
I think its NGC-61
Looks like it was cleaned. I'm thinking NGC AU Details. But...it's really hard to see. The luster looked "odd" as well....needs really to be seen in hand.
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The real "dreck" in this thread is that poster's attitude and ability.
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Counterfeit. > @DeplorableDan said:
Guess blitzdude's guess.
On the cusp of MS ....it's got a great look to it. Let's hope for 58+. That would be rare. Any + would be a plus with that coin. Except one caveat: NGC don't use the +
AU Details, wiped
For both
Any guesses of 58-61 are technically "correct", and this coin is a perfect example of market vs technical grading. The NGC grade is now : MS-61
I purchased this coin as a CACG 58. Its prior owner actually purchased the coin as a PCGS 61, and this truview is probably the more accurate representation of the coin in hand:
Due to the high point rub, CAC wouldnt sticker it as a 61 and he managed to get it downgraded to PCGS 58, and it was subsequently stickered:
Then, he crossed it to CACG as a 58, and I bought it:
It’s actually a nice looking coin, great luster and pretty clean surfaces. I see that my video and pictures may have drawn too much attention to the hairlines/color. Dont get me wrong, there are a good amount of hairlines but they are omnidirectional, not indicative of cleaning. They are just typical hairlines and slide marks for a lightly circulated soft gold coin. I tried to give everyone an honest view of the coin with the video, but I think many guesses were influenced by harsh lighting the fact that the coin was raw, probably thinking that wouldnt make as much sense for me to crack out a straight graded coin. This is not a long term coin in my collection, and I felt that the coin might be more valuable in an MS holder. I was pretty confident I could get at least a 61, but I was really hoping for a 62. Here's a 62 on coinfacts:
55 guesses I thought were pretty harsh, the coin only has a touch of rub and it looks damn good compared to this PCGS/CAC 55:
As we know, pictures can make or break a GTG, and I wanted to see how everyone would do without the typical "glamour shot" truviews. Im guessing that If i had originally shared the TVs or the CACG photos, there wouldn’t have been nearly as many details guesses. Thanks for playing!
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Nicely done! Your instincts were exactly right. Also, I found a picture of you giving out my result for the GTG.
Nice pictures!
I really hoped hard for you @DeplorableDan
Thanks! I actually meant to give you and @Jacques_Loungecoque a shoutout for getting both grades correct, even though you were incorrect about what holder it came out of. You guys both nailed the actual technical grade and what NGC would call it though.
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What a journey that coin has been on!
What a journey this thread is!
It's all about what the people want...
So NGC MS61 is worth more than PCGS AU 58 with CAC ?
How does one get a coin down graded?
Resubmit and request a lower grade?
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Ehh. Greysheet is $800 more, I was really hoping for a 2.
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Send it to ICG 😜