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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice goal. Mind boggling........not really.

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  • lanemyer85lanemyer85 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2024 3:13PM

    @spacehayduke said:

    @lanemyer85 said:

    @Darin said:
    This tread is great! 🍺

    it's where hockey novices are being indoctrinated into believing that assists, even secondary assists, are weighed equally as goals, somehow. Regardless, Adam Oates, Joe Thornton and Henrik Sedin are all huge fans of the thread, I'm told.

    BTW, if you watched the TV broadcast, you would have noted the Great One, Yes Wayne Gretzky, acknowlegding that he could not skate anywhere near as fast as McD. Yup the Great One, pointing out McD is BETTER than him.

    except, you know, McJesus isn't even the fastest guy in the league.

    https://nhl.com/news/nhl-edge-stats-owen-tippett-reaches-top-skating-speed-of-season

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    then guys like Barzal, McJesus, and a handful of others that you've probably never heard of are all right around the same speed at around 1:10 of a second from one another. And being "fastest" doesn't make you the best skater, anyway. If it did, then maybe Our Hero would be in the top 10 of o-zone entries, which he is not. Skating is a combo of quickness, edge work, and vision to create angles to get around players. That's how a guy like Roman Josi, who is well above average but no banshee, outranks someone like McJesus in controlled zone entries. Regardless, I'm sure 99 put a ton of thought and research into his analysis, however, and definitely didn't roll in off the golf course minutes ahead of that telecast.

    Now if you want to say McJesus is the best combo of skating and passing then you can make that argument, but probably not definitively when he has the cast around him that he does, while Barzal, like Kaprizov, has never had another legit 1st line quality player along side of him. OurHero has Leon, a sociopath puck battler like Hyman, RNH, Barrie, Bouchard etc. Barzal had a good crease-crashing (but now aging) power forward like Anders Lee and a revolving door of wingers like Josh Bailey. Put Panarin or a sniper who is also an excellent skater, like Jason Robertson with him, then Barzal might not be too far off from that argument.

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