The image is awfully dark and/or difficult to interpret. Is there glare across the slab causing the uneven color? What is the luster like under the outermost surfaces? Given what we have here now, I will hedge with AU53/55.
I want to go with AU 50-53, though the subdued luster under the darkness of age makes me think XF 45. Is it possible restoration could up the grade ? Or do graders see beneath ?
Cool - Hey an older one - Draped. I like the die crack at date into Liberty. I see some that the crack continues to the top. Also some rim cuds on upper reverse. So I guess this one is mid-die state maybe.
Going by that photo, I would say environmental damage. The right side of obverse and entire reverse looks dull and crusty.
I don't how you can grade something "AU" that has no luster. This quarter is graded AU-55, and it's got 80 to 90 percent of its luster with some P-L surface on the reverse. The relief on this coin is quite low, and it's a bear to photograph.
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I bought this one on Feb 25, 1997 as a birthday present to myself. It is a B-9a with the bisecting die crack on the obverse. The consensus is 45 and that is right on.Here is the slab label. Thanks for the responses and comments. According to the PCGS census there is only one 45 and this must be it and only 6 better 2-50's, 2- 58's, and 2 in 62. None higher.
According to the PCGS census there is only one 45 and this must be it and only 6 better 2-50's, 2- 58's, and 2 in 62. None >higher.
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So on the pcgs population for the Browning 9 or coin number 38395 (coinfacts page link below), those are the B-9 that are slabbed as a B-9 or the coin number 38395. This requires a variety attribution fee. Looking on that coinfacts page for the grade 45 I selected the last auction at HA. The link is below and it has the XF45 with the coin number 38395 (cert number 28453018 which is still active).
There will be other B-9 slabbed but not with the variety identified on the holder. This is the case for the OP coin. I am not even sure pcgs was doing the variety attribution for this coin when that OGH was slabbed (maybe). You can go to the coinfacts page for the basic 1806 or coin number 5314 and see in the Images other B-9, with the die crack (link below). It looks like the second image a 64+ has the die crack for the B-9 but is pcgs # 5314 and not in the B-9 variety page. Note: some images on this page are certified with the variety, just check the pcgs number.
Hope this helps to explain the potential issues with the variety and populations.
Picture is dark, which is difficult, but looks like it could be an AU. I think the reverse is wonderful, and I would probably need to see the obverse in hand.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
That is what an un-messed with coin usually looks like. Love the obverse die crack.
With the subdued luster it is XF all day, but a real nice collectors coin. Would love to own it.
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The image is awfully dark and/or difficult to interpret. Is there glare across the slab causing the uneven color? What is the luster like under the outermost surfaces? Given what we have here now, I will hedge with AU53/55.
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Tough to judge, I'm in the XF45 camp from the images.
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Beautiful! Hate to go against the expert(s), but I'll say 45.
Tom
I’m thinking it’s a 50
Mr_Spud
I’ll go with AU53.
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I want to go with AU 50-53, though the subdued luster under the darkness of age makes me think XF 45. Is it possible restoration could up the grade ? Or do graders see beneath ?
I’m seeing AU level details but if the luster is subdued and it was graded conservatively in the OGH era, I’d guess an XF 45
Cool - Hey an older one - Draped. I like the die crack at date into Liberty. I see some that the crack continues to the top. Also some rim cuds on upper reverse. So I guess this one is mid-die state maybe.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed
RLJ 1958 - 2023
XF45
XF/AU, tough call. I'll go with 45
my first thought is AU53.
I think that by stating "OGH" the guesses may be skewed a little, but "OGH" covers quite a large date range from December of 1989-November of 1998.
Going by that photo, I would say environmental damage. The right side of obverse and entire reverse looks dull and crusty.
I don't how you can grade something "AU" that has no luster. This quarter is graded AU-55, and it's got 80 to 90 percent of its luster with some P-L surface on the reverse. The relief on this coin is quite low, and it's a bear to photograph.
I like it. Crusty and original....not dipped or cleaned. AU53.
I bought this one on Feb 25, 1997 as a birthday present to myself. It is a B-9a with the bisecting die crack on the obverse. The consensus is 45 and that is right on.Here is the slab label. Thanks for the responses and comments. According to the PCGS census there is only one 45 and this must be it and only 6 better 2-50's, 2- 58's, and 2 in 62. None higher.
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/4e/4tv90yack9xz.jpg)
According to the PCGS census there is only one 45 and this must be it and only 6 better 2-50's, 2- 58's, and 2 in 62. None >higher.
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So on the pcgs population for the Browning 9 or coin number 38395 (coinfacts page link below), those are the B-9 that are slabbed as a B-9 or the coin number 38395. This requires a variety attribution fee. Looking on that coinfacts page for the grade 45 I selected the last auction at HA. The link is below and it has the XF45 with the coin number 38395 (cert number 28453018 which is still active).
There will be other B-9 slabbed but not with the variety identified on the holder. This is the case for the OP coin. I am not even sure pcgs was doing the variety attribution for this coin when that OGH was slabbed (maybe). You can go to the coinfacts page for the basic 1806 or coin number 5314 and see in the Images other B-9, with the die crack (link below). It looks like the second image a 64+ has the die crack for the B-9 but is pcgs # 5314 and not in the B-9 variety page. Note: some images on this page are certified with the variety, just check the pcgs number.
Hope this helps to explain the potential issues with the variety and populations.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1806-25c-b-9/38935
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-quarters/1806-25c-xf45-pcgs-b-9-r1/a/1201-4120.s?hdnJumpToLot=1&x=0&y=0
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1806-25c/images/5314
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed
RLJ 1958 - 2023
Picture is dark, which is difficult, but looks like it could be an AU. I think the reverse is wonderful, and I would probably need to see the obverse in hand.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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That is what an un-messed with coin usually looks like. Love the obverse die crack.
With the subdued luster it is XF all day, but a real nice collectors coin. Would love to own it.
Un-messed with, great surfaces and nice detail, I agree with the XF-45 assessment, and would be super-proud to own a coin like that.![:smile: :smile:](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)