New Draped Bust Half Dime - Completed my #1 Registry Set across the street

Mr_Spud

I picked up this Draped Bust Half Dime at Long Beach the other day. It was the last coin I needed to complete my #1 Registry Set of Circulated 19th Century Type Set, no gold across the street. It was really hard to get a good picture with my iPhone through a very scratched slab with the thin coin sunk down in the holder a little bit crooked. I’ll have to figure out something better with the lighting, but here it is 🌞



Here’s a slab photo I took through the dealers case

And here’s the ranking from across the street

gumby1234

Good job

Walkerfan

Beautiful coin!! Great look to it!! Looks much better that XF 45!!

Congrats on the achievement!! Completing a set is a wonderful feeling!!

How long did it take you?

pursuitofliberty

Way to go @Mr_Spud !!

That's a great looking EF dime ... and I love the 8 in the date on those.

alaura22

Great looking coin Tim, and congrats again on the set
Well done

Cladiator

Congrats and nice pick up. That half dime has a lot of meat on it.

RobertScotLover

I would buy that one in a heart beat.

Walkerguy21D

Very nice and very tough type coin.

Mr_Spud

@Walkerfan said:

How long did it take you?

I didn’t start the Registry set until just 2 years ago, but I started collecting slabbed 19th Century type set coins 20 years ago. I targeted AUs for most, down to about VF for the really tough ones. I also started the same set over here just 2 years ago too where it’s part of the Everyman Registry sets where I’m currently in 2nd place.

golden

Nice coin.

RichieURich

Very nice early half dime! Congrats on acquiring it!

ThreeCentSilverFL

Nice!

tcollects

meaty

Walkerfan

@Mr_Spud said:

@Walkerfan said:

How long did it take you?

I didn’t start the Registry set until just 2 years ago, but I started collecting slabbed 19th Century type set coins 20 years ago. I targeted AUs for most, down to about VF for the really tough ones. I also started the same set over here just 2 years ago too where it’s part of the Everyman Registry sets where I’m currently in 2nd place.

Well done. Thank you for sharing your story.

asheland

Love it!!!

braddick

That's a keeper! These are so tough to locate original and problem free.
So many are bent/warped or damaged in some way, not including cleanings.

It is a treasure finding one that avoided all the problems.

golden

What about this side of the street?

alaura22

@golden said:
What about this side of the street?

Not until he gets it crossed over

brianc1959

Very nice coin, and a great idea for a type set since it avoids some of the "impossible" 18th century items.

Nysoto

Excellent example of the type. Robert Scot accurately reduced the draped bust heraldic eagle design from the dollar through the denominations, without a reducing lathe. Overlays of the obverse and reverse, with the half dime enlarged to the size of the dollar, show only slight differences.

Mr_Spud

@golden said:
What about this side of the street?

My Everyman 19th Century Type Set No Gold is #2 here at PCGS and it’s 98.44% complete. The 2 sets, here and across the street, share many of the same PCGS coins, but I have a fair amount of duplicates of the same type in NGC slabs too.

Mr_Spud

@Nysoto said:
Excellent example of the type. Robert Scot accurately reduced the draped bust heraldic eagle design from the dollar through the denominations, without a reducing lathe. Overlays of the obverse and reverse, with the half dime enlarged to the size of the dollar, show only slight differences.

Yes, I’ve noticed that too. It made me wonder if people back in the day ever mixed some of the denominations up. This is what all the denominations would look like like if they were all the same size.

Whereas here they are somewhat proportional to their denominations (not really accurate, just roughly)

Mr_Spud

Here’s an overlay lining the portrait of Liberty up on both coins the same size

And here is side by side the half dime and dollar but both the same size

Nysoto

Those are some great images and overlay, @Mr_Spud , that show how good Scot was at keeping scale through denominations.

Scot would have used linear perspective, taught at the Trustees Academy in Edinburgh by Richard Cooper to reduce paintings accurately to miniatures. Two straight lines are drawn from opposing edges of the dollar coin to a single vanishing point, and a smaller denomination could be drawn in with a compass where the two lines fit the size. Key features, such as the top curl or eye, could be exactly reproduced in location by drawing a line from eye to the vanishing point, then a vertical line, measured in percent from center to eye on the dollar, is drawn on the smaller denomination to keep exactly the same proportions from a dollar to half dime. When enough points of key features were drawn, it was just matter of connecting tbe dots (points from intersecting lines) and wax transferring the new denomination to an original die blank.

I was taught that technique in technical drawing classes pre-CATIA, and I still have my textbook!

Mr_Spud

Thanks @Nysoto , that’s great information

Jzyskowski1

Congratulations.
Great achievement

divecchia

Congratulations on a great set!!!

Donato

Manifest_Destiny

Awesome coins! Draped Bust coinage is my favorite design pre-seated.

ricko

@Mr_Spud... Really nice acquisition and a nice set overall. Be proud of that set. Cheers, RickO

lilolme

I missed this one the first time through. Just not enough time I guess. Good feeling to be complete?

I have been gathering up some early silver types but kind of fumbling now. There are some 'bad boys' in the mini-set.
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@Mr_Spud said:

@Nysoto said:
Excellent example of the type. Robert Scot accurately reduced the draped bust heraldic eagle design from the dollar through the denominations, without a reducing lathe. Overlays of the obverse and reverse, with the half dime enlarged to the size of the dollar, show only slight differences.

Yes, I’ve noticed that too. It made me wonder if people back in the day ever mixed some of the denominations up. This is what all the denominations would look like like if they were all the same size.

Whereas here they are somewhat proportional to their denominations (not really accurate, just roughly)

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I had noticed this also. Do you know the thread with the link to refresh to generate a new pcgs photo? It is very similar as most of the coins are the same size. I often stop on ones like these and figure out what it is. Can learn to pick up on a few things but then sometimes it is just a little tougher to do.
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@Nysoto said:
Those are some great images and overlay, @Mr_Spud , that show how good Scot was at keeping scale through denominations.

Scot would have used linear perspective, taught at the Trustees Academy in Edinburgh by Richard Cooper to reduce paintings accurately to miniatures. Two straight lines are drawn from opposing edges of the dollar coin to a single vanishing point, and a smaller denomination could be drawn in with a compass where the two lines fit the size. Key features, such as the top curl or eye, could be exactly reproduced in location by drawing a line from eye to the vanishing point, then a vertical line, measured in percent from center to eye on the dollar, is drawn on the smaller denomination to keep exactly the same proportions from a dollar to half dime. When enough points of key features were drawn, it was just matter of connecting tbe dots (points from intersecting lines) and wax transferring the new denomination to an original die blank.

I was taught that technique in technical drawing classes pre-CATIA, and I still have my textbook!

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Ah, I remember this. Never used it but did some drafting early on. However, I then left it and moved into a numbers nerd.

kaz

that's a great looking half dime!

Herb_T

Not easy to accomplish…nice job!