It appears to have terrific color and luster. The images are a little overexposed, in my opinion, for me to give an grade estimate, but it has the feel of something in the MS65/66 neighborhood.
I don't think it would be over a 66RD. The surface preservation, luster and eye appeal would warrant more, but the strike is not good on Lincoln's hair and the upper part of the reverse.
@HillbillyCollector said:
66-67-RD
Don’t know much about copper, but I do know what ‘crazy’ luster and clean fields look like!
Beautiful, and congrats!👍
Thank you I thought the luster was incredible but I have not seen the coin in hand. It was mailed out today
Terrific looking coin... I now have concerns because we are going to be surprised. Something tells me the image created a different narrative than what grade might be on the holder. I want to be wrong because in looking at the image, I see 66+ or 67. Could it 67+ and that is the surprise?
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@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
I like your 64 better than my 64. And judging by the cert number it’s going to fall into the same era as mine which is, if it doesn’t look like a 70 then it’s not a 67. Good thing we collect coins and not labels I got a sharpie for that 🤣
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
Wow! That’s a GREAT looking 64. Would the weak strike have been what knocked a point or two off?
At any rate, great looking coin!
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
And some very minute spotting which doesn’t seem to overide the eye appeal. At least in these images.
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Only issues I see are the stain/darkness on the reverse over the letter “N” in one, hits on Lincoln’s bust (as you noted), significant hit in the field to the left of Lincoln’s bust/coat, and scrape line across Lincoln’s head (above his ear) almost like a brain surgery incision.
I got here too late to guess but I think the grade is accurate. The pictures do not accurately show the surface but you can tell there is a lot of chatter on Lincoln's shoulder and face and the rim is "chewy." But the luster sure does help.
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Only issues I see are the stain/darkness on the reverse over the letter “N” in one, hits on Lincoln’s bust (as you noted), significant hit in the field to the left of Lincoln’s bust/coat, and scrape line across Lincoln’s head (above his ear) almost like a brain surgery incision.
Not the ugliest 64, imo
Not the “Ugliest”. These 2 coins also graded MS 64 came from the same seller, some of a few MS red coins possibly from an original roll. Compare!
Funny that once the grade is posted all of a sudden everybody is finding all these flaws on the coin. What happened to all the smart people who were guessing 66 66+ even 67, 😂 lol. Seems they got cold feet all of a sudden. Can’t the coin just be undergraded. Will post more after I see the coin in hand. Thanks for your participation
@Walkerlover said:
Funny that once the grade is posted all of a sudden everybody is finding all these flaws on the coin. What happened to all the smart genius people who were guessing 66 66+ even 67, 😂 lol. Can’t the coin be very undergraded. Will post more after I see the coin in hand. Thanks for your participation
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Only issues I see are the stain/darkness on the reverse over the letter “N” in one, hits on Lincoln’s bust (as you noted), significant hit in the field to the left of Lincoln’s bust/coat, and scrape line across Lincoln’s head (above his ear) almost like a brain surgery incision.
Not the ugliest 64, imo
Not the “Ugliest”. These 2 coins also graded MS 64 came from the same seller, some of a few MS red coins possibly from an original roll. Compare!
The last coin you have a picture of is a Denver mint, so not an “original roll” in my definition, but it looks like you got the nicest of the 3. I personally like your coin as a 65 because of the flashy surfaces. I couldn’t help but look up a price guide value on the coin, $12. You really can’t “make” the coin for the $20 with slabbing shipping and fees, so I think you did good.
@MFeld said:
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Only issues I see are the stain/darkness on the reverse over the letter “N” in one, hits on Lincoln’s bust (as you noted), significant hit in the field to the left of Lincoln’s bust/coat, and scrape line across Lincoln’s head (above his ear) almost like a brain surgery incision.
Not the ugliest 64, imo
Not the “Ugliest”. These 2 coins also graded MS 64 came from the same seller, some of a few MS red coins possibly from an original roll. Compare!
The last coin you have a picture of is a Denver mint, so not an “original roll” in my definition, but it looks like you got the nicest of the 3. I personally like your coin as a 65 because of the flashy surfaces. I couldn’t help but look up a price guide value on the coin, $12. You really can’t “make” the coin for the $20 with slabbing shipping and fees, so I think you did good.
Do you think 65 solid or plus?. BTW they also had this coin for sale as well.
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It appears to have terrific color and luster. The images are a little overexposed, in my opinion, for me to give an grade estimate, but it has the feel of something in the MS65/66 neighborhood.
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I'm at 67. It has the luster.
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66+, if it was an older holder it would be 65.
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5+ red
44's come gorgeous as there are BU rolls out there still. Looks nice.
I don't think it would be over a 66RD. The surface preservation, luster and eye appeal would warrant more, but the strike is not good on Lincoln's hair and the upper part of the reverse.
65RD.
67RD
In my opinion, any guesses below MS66 are harsh. I’d be shocked if the coin doesn’t grade 66 at a minimum and 67 wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I would like to see a better strike.
I would like to see a 67+ that luster is pretty sick .
66-67-RD
Don’t know much about copper, but I do know what ‘crazy’ luster and clean fields look like!
Beautiful, and congrats!👍
Thank you I thought the luster was incredible but I have not seen the coin in hand. It was mailed out today
What @ricko says.
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66 red
Blazer 66 min
Terrific looking coin... I now have concerns because we are going to be surprised. Something tells me the image created a different narrative than what grade might be on the holder. I want to be wrong because in looking at the image, I see 66+ or 67. Could it 67+ and that is the surprise?
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I Dunno - it's a late die state strike on both sides. In the "old" days it would not have got past 65. But these days - who knows.
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The Coin is MS 64 Red. I was impressed with the flash and color and surprised it was only graded MS 64 so I bought it all in for 20 bucks, hopefully it looks as good in hand.
I like your 64 better than my 64. And judging by the cert number it’s going to fall into the same era as mine which is, if it doesn’t look like a 70 then it’s not a 67. Good thing we collect coins and not labels I got a sharpie for that 🤣
There’s likely an issue that’s not apparent in the images, as they don’t seem to show anything that merits such a low grade. The one possibility that I can come up with is multiple bad contact marks on the lower left portion of Lincoln’s bust. Please let us know what you see, once you have the coin in hand.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Wow! That’s a GREAT looking 64. Would the weak strike have been what knocked a point or two off?
At any rate, great looking coin!
And some very minute spotting which doesn’t seem to overide the eye appeal. At least in these images.
Only issues I see are the stain/darkness on the reverse over the letter “N” in one, hits on Lincoln’s bust (as you noted), significant hit in the field to the left of Lincoln’s bust/coat, and scrape line across Lincoln’s head (above his ear) almost like a brain surgery incision.
Not the ugliest 64, imo
Someone should start another thread. "Post Your Highest Grade Lincoln Cent"
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I got here too late to guess but I think the grade is accurate. The pictures do not accurately show the surface but you can tell there is a lot of chatter on Lincoln's shoulder and face and the rim is "chewy." But the luster sure does help.
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Not the “Ugliest”. These 2 coins also graded MS 64 came from the same seller, some of a few MS red coins possibly from an original roll. Compare!
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/38/g1zoxa6k5meu.jpeg)
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/8c/dmnxgg28gwk7.jpeg)
Funny that once the grade is posted all of a sudden everybody is finding all these flaws on the coin. What happened to all the smart people who were guessing 66 66+ even 67, 😂 lol. Seems they got cold feet all of a sudden. Can’t the coin just be undergraded. Will post more after I see the coin in hand. Thanks for your participation
I still think it's better then 64
The last coin you have a picture of is a Denver mint, so not an “original roll” in my definition, but it looks like you got the nicest of the 3. I personally like your coin as a 65 because of the flashy surfaces. I couldn’t help but look up a price guide value on the coin, $12. You really can’t “make” the coin for the $20 with slabbing shipping and fees, so I think you did good.
From the pictures, it looks as good as any 66 I ever owned.
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Do you think 65 solid or plus?. BTW they also had this coin for sale as well.
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