GTG: 1889-CC Morgan - Grade Revealed
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Feel free to guess the grade of, I know another Morgan Dollar, but an 89-CC is always a welcome sight in my book.
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AU 55. Original for sure, very thick skin. Underneath could be an AU58.
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I think this just might be one that needs to be seen in hand to be appreciated or even evaluated. I am at AU50
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45
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55
AU53
First thought was 50
Possibly 53
AU55. Dig those CC's! Speaking of dig, this one must have been buried for a while. Still a nice coin. Congrats!
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I would say 50 but the toning really could be hiding issues...
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53
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50
58
I don’t see a lot of luster and the surfaces are dull, which is very concerning to me for a piece with that much meat. If it is not AU details then I’ll guess AU53.
Edited: AU details environmental damage versus altered surfaces; shot 53
AU55.
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58
I’m in the 55 bunch
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Some very minor high point wear but subdued luster means probably 55 max. That's my guess, 55.
I kinda like it, especially the reverse.
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AU-53
Could be a 55 or 58, but the darkness and dull toning may take it down to 53. Still a nice coin to own.
My first impression is 45
Mr_Spud
AU-50 Details
Mike
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Danco Set
EF-45.
It's hard to call something AU which has not visible luster in the photo. This date comes with P-L surfaces, so natural, frosty dullness is not an excuse.
I agree regarding lack of luster for an AU coin, but if it is that bad it should be in a details holder rather than a straight graded holder. I think a coin with that much meat looks silly in an EF holder.
@MFeld thoughts on the grade and whether a details grade versus netgrade is appropriate?
AU details
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45
Here’s a glimpse into how I go about trying to guess a grade…
After a quick look at the pictures, with respect to the details, I start out with AU50 as a minimum and AU58 as a maximum. Looking at the pictures a bit longer, I’m sitting on AU53.
Now, I’m looking at the color and the surfaces. I think the color is probably OK, but I have concerns about the surfaces - in particular, the obverse. Starting at the L in PLURIBUS and moving in a clockwise direction all the way to the area of the date, much of the surface area appears to be hazy. My guess is that at least the obverse of the coin has been cleaned, and to the extent of a details grade.
So all things considered, I arrive at a grade guess of AU details, cleaned.
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Added a TrueView at the top.... Thanks for the good guesses.
The new True View solidified the details grade IMHO.
The additional images reinforce my guess of “Cleaned”.
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It would have been better to have included them at the outset.
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@MFeld Sorry, it slipped my mind when I posted this morning.
The reason for an in hand evaluation is to tilt the coin to determine if there is lustre not captured in the images as well as hairlining that is not attributable to circulation/wear. We really are grading the images and not the coin. Original 89-CC Morgans in this state of preservation are seldom seen. And while the images are not encouraging mainly because they capture flatness over some lustre, the holder confirms that it is genuine even though this coin would look better in a Library of Coins album as part of a circulated set.
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That’s not a problem…as long as you make this a giveaway.😈
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Genuine, but not necessarily straight graded
Mike
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It may not straight grade. The folks at PCGS saw the coin in hand... I have not
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TV was there in original post? I missed them. Coin has been cleaned.
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I'm not so sure it's been cleaned. I think this is one of those newer "wacky" TrueViews that have to be thrown out of consideration.
Of course, if the grade is cleaned I will absolutely accept that I was wrong.
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The coin looks cleaned to me in both sets of images - just more obviously so in the TrueView.
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45 is my guess. I’m on the fence up to 53, but I don’t trust the images on this one
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AU details
53
Tom
AU55
Anyone want to share why you think the coin is improperly cleaned? Actually, my photos are better than the TrueView as the coin looks in hand.
I already shared my thoughts, based on your photos, and the TrueView images make the coin appear more obviously cleaned.
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Thanks @MFeld
I was just wondering what the darkish area is seen mostly on the right obverse field extending into the portrait. I'll post the grade soon.
EF 45 it's all in the details
The coin appears to be AU... likely details due to cleaning... That being said, an 1889CC is an awesome coin to have and a better grade than the one in my collection. Cheers, RickO
Excellent, thoughtful, informative post. Bravo!