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3 new “PCGS” fakes from China and their current certs…

burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

I haven’t seen these three on the internet yet:


The ’45-O’s cert is nonsense:

The ’84-CC active with a TrueView:

And the ’89-CC also active with a TrueView:

Just a matter of time before we see these in droves…
Best, Jack.

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the comment!

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where did you see them @burfle23 ? At a show? Getting scared to buy coins.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how much money is being lost by collectors buying these? Also, just think of how much money is being diverted from the purchase of real collector coins every time one of these is being sold.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    I wonder how much money is being lost by collectors buying these? Also, just think of how much money is being diverted from the purchase of real collector coins every time one of these is being sold.

    The problem is "much" bigger then this! This is just low "very low" hanging fruit.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • JWPJWP Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are these being sold on ebay and or other online marketplaces?

    USN & USAF retired 1971-1993
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  • fluffy155fluffy155 Posts: 268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And they still say "Morgan" on the label. Bizarre...

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JWP said:
    Are these being sold on ebay and or other online marketplaces?

    All of the internet selling venues; also in pawn shops and walking into coin shops...

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fluffy155 said:
    And they still say "Morgan" on the label. Bizarre...

    Yes, that is weird

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2023 4:27PM

    @burfle23 said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    Where did you see them @burfle23 ? At a show? Getting scared to buy coins.

    I actually purchased these direct; I am trying to get images of all of their "varieties" to post in as many venues as I can showing these threats to the Hobby...

    Does the 89 CC have the tell tale markings that you wrote about in earlier post re fakes of this date? It pays to know your source when buying coins, and have someone who knows more than you look at them before purchase. Think of this as an insurance policy of sorts.

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @fluffy155 said:
    And they still say "Morgan" on the label. Bizarre...

    Yes, that is weird

    Fortunately they are not great numismatists...

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :(

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for the work you are doing, providing valuable education on this subject and reminding us to not let our guard down.

    Fortunately, most of the counterfeits are not perfect and there are still ways to differentiate. The trick is, how to educate without tipping off the counterfeiters.

    USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
    My current Registry sets:
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
    ✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Double edge sword; I decided to err on the side of the Hobby...

  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭

    Does the near-field chip work ?

    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No; not present.

  • steve76020steve76020 Posts: 367 ✭✭✭

    if i were fixing to spend 50k on a coin i believe i would perform a full spectralanalasyst of it

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