A roll of large size bust quarters

Bustquarterhound

After 3 years of starting over on my passion for large size bust quarters I had them spread out on the table and realized wow there's only 11 dollars worth of quarters here. How cool would it have been to go to the bank in 1828 and ask for a roll or 10 dollars of quarters and see what you may would have found.

Walkerguy21D

Yep, you could have exchanged your 1799 $10 gold piece for them 😉

No Headlights

You probably would have ended up with more than one country's coins.

RLSnapper

I see you are an equal opportunity collector. Raw, NGC, PCGS and ICG.

dsessom

@Bustquarterhound said:

How cool would it have been to go to the bank in 1828 and ask for a roll or 10 dollars of quarters and see what you may would have found.

Banks didn't operate like they do today. They existed primarily for lending money, or taking deposits. Coins would have been stored in bags, in the vault. It was not until 1913, with the establishment of the Federal Reserve that banks started getting "rolls" of coins in paper wrappers.

You have a wonderful collection of early quarters! They are interesting due not only to their size, but I think the designs are much more aesthetically pleasing than modern coinage. Plus they are silver! A quarter back then, would buy what $8.00 - $10,00 will buy today.

Steven59

@Bustquarterhound said:

How cool would it have been to go to the bank in 1828 and ask for a roll or 10 dollars of quarters.

Probably this cool...............

golden

@dsessom said:

@Bustquarterhound said:

How cool would it have been to go to the bank in 1828 and ask for a roll or 10 dollars of quarters and see what you may would have found.

Banks didn't operate like they do today. They existed primarily for lending money, or taking deposits. Coins would have been stored in bags, in the vault. It was not until 1913, with the establishment of the Federal Reserve that banks started getting "rolls" of coins in paper wrappers.

You have a wonderful collection of early quarters! They are interesting due not only to their size, but I think the designs are much more aesthetically pleasing than modern coinage. Plus they are silver! A quarter back then, would buy what $8.00 - $10,00 will buy today.

I once owned two original 25 cent rolls of 1909 VDB cents that were in the original wrappers. I still have the wrappers.

ricko

@Bustquarterhound ... Very nice collection of quarters.. Three years of collecting them? Are you building a specific set? Or just a general collection... Either way, looks great. Cheers, RickO

WAYNEAS

@Bustquarterhound said:

Wayne

Bustquarterhound

@ricko said:
@Bustquarterhound ... Very nice collection of quarters.. Three years of collecting them? Are you building a specific set? Or just a general collection... Either way, looks great. Cheers, RickO

Going for the large diameter quarters by die variety and die state. Minus the big money pieces. Have a long way to go.

manlye1

Great collection!!

Bustquarterhound

@manlye1 said:
Great collection!!

Thanks Shawn

dsessom

@golden said:

@dsessom said:

@Bustquarterhound said:

How cool would it have been to go to the bank in 1828 and ask for a roll or 10 dollars of quarters and see what you may would have found.

Banks didn't operate like they do today. They existed primarily for lending money, or taking deposits. Coins would have been stored in bags, in the vault. It was not until 1913, with the establishment of the Federal Reserve that banks started getting "rolls" of coins in paper wrappers.

You have a wonderful collection of early quarters! They are interesting due not only to their size, but I think the designs are much more aesthetically pleasing than modern coinage. Plus they are silver! A quarter back then, would buy what $8.00 - $10,00 will buy today.

I once owned two original 25 cent rolls of 1909 VDB cents that were in the original wrappers. I still have the wrappers.

Then is was most likely done after 1913, since the patent for the automated coin wrapping machine was not granted until 1910. Or it could have been hand wrapped.
Here is some neat history behind bank coin rolls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_wrapper

marmac

What a great little hoard of quarters you are building. I'd enjoy taking a closer look at the 1822 in P58. A few years back I caught the bug on the Type 1 Series after having a just a single type example in my holding for as long as I can remember. I probably have a couple of dozen or more, pursuing the die varieties. If I recall, I'm about a dozen off from the full variety set for 1815-1828, with the exception of a few of the more cost prohibitive issues.

Thanks for sharing them!

jesbroken

What was the difference in thickness of the pre 1831 Quarters and post 1831 Quarters. Were the pre31's noticeably thinner or so slight as not to notice? To be 3+ mm larger yet weight the same, I just wonder. Never held the two at the same time to notice.
Jim

VanHalen

@marmac said:
What a great little hoard of quarters you are building. I'd enjoy taking a closer look at the 1822 in P58. A few years back I caught the bug on the Type 1 Series after having a just a single type example in my holding for as long as I can remember. I probably have a couple of dozen or more, pursuing the die varieties. If I recall, I'm about a dozen off from the full variety set for 1815-1828, with the exception of a few of the more cost prohibitive issues.

Thanks for sharing them!

I noticed the 58 also. Here it is: auctions.stacksbowers.com/1822-capped-bust-quarter-b-1-rarity-2-au-58-pcgs

logger7

What would Americans from that era thought of today's collecting habits?

dsessom

@logger7 said:
What would Americans from that era thought of today's collecting habits?

Back then, the hobby was mostly reserved for wealthy and upper class and they collected world and ancient coins, up until the 1850's when the folks started collecting large cents and half cents after they were discontinued.

More info: https://blog.littletoncoin.com/history-coin-collecting/

Bustquarterhound

@jesbroken said:
What was the difference in thickness of the pre 1831 Quarters and post 1831 Quarters. Were the pre31's noticeably thinner or so slight as not to notice? To be 3+ mm larger yet weight the same, I just wonder. Never held the two at the same time to notice.
Jim

They're very much thinner and noticeable as well. They were also more susceptible to bending so that's something to watch for when purchasing

Bustquarterhound

@VanHalen said:

@marmac said:
What a great little hoard of quarters you are building. I'd enjoy taking a closer look at the 1822 in P58. A few years back I caught the bug on the Type 1 Series after having a just a single type example in my holding for as long as I can remember. I probably have a couple of dozen or more, pursuing the die varieties. If I recall, I'm about a dozen off from the full variety set for 1815-1828, with the exception of a few of the more cost prohibitive issues.

Thanks for sharing them!

I noticed the 58 also. Here it is: auctions.stacksbowers.com/1822-capped-bust-quarter-b-1-rarity-2-au-58-pcgs

Thanks Frank

jesbroken

@Bustquarterhound
Thank you, info unknown to me. I knew they were larger but did not know they were the same weight until your post. I appreciate the lesson. Nice collection you have there.
Jim

scubafuel

That is an excellent collection! It’s awesome (and unusual) to see so many large size quarters in one place.

Bustquarterhound

@scubafuel said:
That is an excellent collection! It’s awesome (and unusual) to see so many large size quarters in one place.

Thanks. Dave

guitarwes

Nice looking bunch! How many are for sale???!!!???! I only need a couple!

Onastone

If you went in and asked for a roll back in 1828, you wouldn't be here today enjoying them!

Bustquarterhound

@guitarwes said:
Nice looking bunch! How many are for sale???!!!???! I only need a couple!

Which ones?

lilolme

Neat. I do not know these, so what defines the die state (you mentioned doing by die state)? Is it in the Browning information? Is is similar to Overton where they define some die states with 'a' and 'b'?

Bustquarterhound

@lilolme said:
Neat. I do not know these, so what defines the die state (you mentioned doing by die state)? Is it in the Browning information? Is is similar to Overton where they define some die states with 'a' and 'b'?

Yes the die states are cracks in the die or other things like die bulges die chips and other die failures that occur during the life of the die

lilolme

@Bustquarterhound said:

@lilolme said:
Neat. I do not know these, so what defines the die state (you mentioned doing by die state)? Is it in the Browning information? Is is similar to Overton where they define some die states with 'a' and 'b'?

Yes the die states are cracks in the die or other things like die bulges die chips and other die failures that occur during the life of the die

Thanks, I was not clear. I am aware of the die state 'thing' with bust halves and Overton. In Overton they will define some die states with an 'a' or 'b' added on to the Overton number (example O-102a). Then the BHNC has some additional die states and I got their book recently. I was wondering for the Bust quarters what is the source that defines the die states? Is it in the Browning information similar to Overton or something else?

Bustquarterhound

@lilolme said:

@Bustquarterhound said:

@lilolme said:
Neat. I do not know these, so what defines the die state (you mentioned doing by die state)? Is it in the Browning information? Is is similar to Overton where they define some die states with 'a' and 'b'?

Yes the die states are cracks in the die or other things like die bulges die chips and other die failures that occur during the life of the die

Thanks, I was not clear. I am aware of the die state 'thing' with bust halves and Overton. In Overton they will define some die states with an 'a' or 'b' added on to the Overton number (example O-102a). Then the BHNC has some additional die states and I got their book recently. I was wondering for the Bust quarters what is the source that defines the die states? Is it in the Browning information similar to Overton or something else?

The quarter book by Tompkins. And the one by Rea, Peterson,Karloff explain the die state progression at the bottom of each variety

Baley

Nice collection! It's fun to think about a raw roll of old coins, certainly possible to do, a couple of our members have actually done it with early US halves, and posted pictures of stacks of them

An earlier thread on this topic

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/848957/on-a-roll-with-bust-quarters/p1