People who know about these dollar coins know that yours is normal. It is not missing a layer (have you checked the edge?) and it's not made of silver.
But keep on scrutinizing and arguing over normal coins. Other collectors in your area are grateful. The time you are spending on this stuff is time you are not spending looking for and finding the real errors .
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @FredWeinberg, thank you for your input. Unfortunately not many of the other “qualified posters” were able to offer an explanation of why it wasn’t something unusual or unique, but that it just wasn’t. I thank you for being more specific in your response. I will continue to hear from others though, and I hope if anyone finds one like this, they will add pictures of it to this feed.
I’ve personally never seen brass become this light in color, ever, so to me this is extremely unique, especially because manganese is used to increase the strength, toughness, stiffness, wear resistance, and hardness of the brass itself. I’m pretty sure that why Niki Lauda used manganese engine components in his Formula One car back in the 70’s, because they were lighter and stronger than the standards of that time.
Fair enough statement but this coin is not made of solid mangansese, or solid brass for that matter. It has a pure copper core with an outer layer of "manganese brass", which consists of .770 copper, .120 zinc, .070 manganese and .040 nickel. These coins can look significantly lighter in color if they have been chemically dipped in Jeweluster, vinegar, or some similar coin cleaner solution, or if they have just been cleaned in general. This a heavily nicked up example and someone imo has tried to improve its appearance by cleaning it, perhaps mechanically, which would account for what look like buffed out details in various places.
The Sacs can tone pretty differently. I've always kept this one because I liked the way it looked. But in the end, it's still only $1. Excuse the reverse pic, couldn't get the back half of the airtight off. Lol
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Came home last night and pulled this baby out of my pocket change and have been racking my brain all night trying to find any article, video, forum post or anything to explain what I’ve found.
so far the coins you have shown are nothing but common everyday coins that have nothing special about them, wishing those coins were what you say isn't going to change the real world fact they are nothing special
you need to research about coins and such, learn from others who have been collecting for many years and understand that just cause you think a coin is special, not many will agree
@JBK, You’re right, the weight was never brought up before, but I brought it up now as a question of whether or not the missing clad layers would amount to what is missing, even after the tolerances are taken into account. Even then, if the tolerable amount of weight difference lands the coin weight between say 8.09-7.99 grams, does the remainder of what it weighed out to still sound accurate for the amount of clad missing?
The only copper visible on the coin is around the edges, which is what a normal Sacagawea looks like too, except there’s absolutely no brass cladding anywhere on the coin.
@bsshog40, I wasn’t bashing anyone for their opinions, I simply stated that some responses were less knowledgeable in the aspect of helping me to figure out what could have been the cause of why this coin turned out this way. Now I’m sorry if that hurts your feelers, but be that as it may, you have to develop thick skin if you’re going to participate on a forum, and you have to learn to accept that not everyone will always agree with your or the majority’s opinions. I’m allowed to determine my own opinions based on what everyone else says in their comments, and you don’t have to like it, but there’s the door. 👍
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @bsshog40, I wasn’t bashing anyone for their opinions, I simply stated that some responses were less knowledgeable in the aspect of helping me to figure out what could have been the cause of why this coin turned out this way. Now I’m sorry if that hurts your feelers, but be that as it may, you have to develop thick skin if you’re going to participate on a forum, and you have to learn to accept that not everyone will always agree with your or the majority’s opinions. I’m allowed to determine my own opinions based on what everyone else says in their comments, and you don’t have to like it, but there’s the door. 👍
You have no clue my friend. I've been through this door much longer than you have. At least I know junk when see it!
As you tagged me I will respond this one time, but I will not feed your trolling any further. As to this junk coin you posted in the op, I have no idea what happened to this nor do I care. As you have been told repeatedly this is nothing but a mangled coin that has likely been run over several times at your local Walmart. I would not be surprised at all if it turns out that you used some silver paint and then roughed up the coin just so you could post it and have some "fun". I also have no doubt this is a burner account for your previously banned account and while others may enjoy engaging in your nonsense I have no time for it. Reply all you like I have placed you on ignore so I will be spared your drivel until you are banned again.
I think from now on, once it’s established that someone is unwilling to take the time to learn even the most basic knowledge required to be collecting error coins, every response just needs to be, “Send it to PCGS.”
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @Fraz, if the forum isn’t about egos, and it’s about objects like you say, how come some of the people with higher amounts of posts speak as though they’re comments shouldn’t be challenged or debated? That sounds kind of narcissistic don’t you think? Much like, being egotistical isn’t it?🤨🤔
OH I don't know maybe because many of them are actual EXPERTS in the topic of consideration?
I don't know what YouTube or Facebook or tiktok stuff you are watching, or just a troll, but seriously, if you actually want a serious discussion and aren't a troll, challenging the experts opinions is not the way to win support here. It's fine to ask questions, and most here will oblige, but dismissing and challenging like you have been will get you nowhere fast.
The fact is most circulated coins suffer from some form of pmd or post mint damage, and have no additional numismatic value. If you ask a question and it's noted that something is pmd, attacking those opinions is not the way forward.
Hopefully you will take a step back and learn to recognize that there is a lot of knowledge to be found here, and it can be a fun place if you don't take opinions personally.
Now that I've seen the image of the coin sitting on the scale...assuming the color is that whitish in hand, it now seems more likely that this piece was mechanically cleaned then plated or coated in something post mint. Ex bezel jewelry piece perhaps. That would explain the normal looking edge also. Likely got removed from the bezel and then kicked around for awhile before op found it. Weight standard is 8.1g so the pre-plating clean job would account for it being a tad light.
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If the coin really is silvery in colour underneath the brass plating, and if the coin is actually noticeably underweight, there is one other possibility that has not yet been mentioned in this thread.
It might be a counterfeit.
As noted by others above, these coins do see circulation in Ecuador. Counterfeit golden dollars have turned up in Ecuador. Some of these counterfeit dollars might make their way back to the US mainland, and be found in "change", especially if their use is actually becoming more commonplace in certain parts of the country.
I'm not saying it is a counterfeit. I'm saying it might be. Because Occam's Razor: "It's a counterfeit" is a far simpler, and therefore more probable, answer to your question "Why is this coin like this?", than some kind of elaborate explanation involving some kind of wrong-metal mint error.
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It really is shame to see the amount of interaction a troll post like this garners. Meanwhile, the other newbie who’s been coming here to ask for our advice just made his first NEWP thread around lunchtime, and has but 3 comments from other forum members 😢
I think you can avoid a lot of the unproductive back forth by giving a clear explanation of what you think you've found. When I look at the first group of photos I don't see anything other than a banged up dollar coin with a lot of marks that appear to be cause by usage. If you described what you thought was unique about it (color, significance of certain marks, etc.) it would go a long way in helping others focus on what you believe is unique and interesting. If someone describes something as "the most insane find ever" they should be able to clearly define what they believe is "insane" about the coin.
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@coinbuf. You know damn well if this coin had been on the ground in any parking lot (for any period of time) and was subject to not only the weather and sunlight, but also being driven over repeatedly, the coin itself would’ve sustained far more damage than what is visible, and you probably wouldn’t be able to identify what coin it was.
Don’t sit on your end and give me a cockamamie response like that and then have the audacity to call me a troll! if you don’t know the answer, but still feel the need to say something, simply put that you don’t know, otherwise quit being a Richard!
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @coinbuf. You know damn well if this coin had been on the ground in any parking lot and was subject to not only the weather and sunlight, but also being driven over repeatedly, the coin itself would’ve sustained far more damage than what is visible, and you probably wouldn’t be able to identify what coin it was.
Don’t sit on your end and give me a cockamamie response like that and then have the audacity to call me a troll! if you don’t know the answer, but still feel the need to say something, simply put that you don’t know, otherwise quit being a Richard!
Why couldn't it spend a couple hours in a parking lot? It doesn't have to be zero or a year.
@jmlanzaf. Even if that was the case, and it had only been in a parking lot for a day or less, if you take into consideration what the surface of a parking lot looks like, coupled with what it is made from, don’t you think the impressions caused by being smushed between a 2200+ pound vehicle and that surface would’ve caused more damage than what appears on the coin? Also, don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its cladding?
It did "retain its cladding". Your own photo of the coin's edge shows the proper three layers. You've learned nothing in this thread.
You have a normal Sacagawea dollar. The color is throwing you off. Go to the bank and get a few rolls of circulated dollar coins and you will find all sorts of colors, including one like yours.
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It did "retain its cladding". You've learned nothing in this thread.
Apologies. Let me clarify it for you, “don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its “brassy” color?”
At this point, you’re harping on me over a technicality of vocabulary usage, which in this context, would’ve provided similar answers without the need to reword it.
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said:
Apologies. Let me clarify it for you, “don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its “brassy” color?”
Dollar coin color can range from near white to near black with every color in between. It's just a matter of what elements and wear it's been subjected to.
Your coin looks normal so there's no reason to speculate further.
You never offer any proof, just questions that you expect others to try to answer. The burden is on you to prove it's an error. (It's not, so you won't be able to).
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @jmlanzaf. Even if that was the case, and it had only been in a parking lot for a day or less, if you take into consideration what the surface of a parking lot looks like, coupled with what it is made from, don’t you think the impressions caused by being smushed between a 2200+ pound vehicle and that surface would’ve caused more damage than what appears on the coin? Also, don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its cladding?
"Parking Lot coin" is really just a catch-all phrase that gets used around here for coins with damage. It doesn't have to be a literal parking lot. Even if it were, it could have been pressed into the dirt in a gravel parking lot and seen very few 2200 pound vehicles waiting for its rescue. I'm not saying it's a literal parking lot. But arguing over parking lot versus open field versus swamp is really just a distraction.
There is evidence of some damage. There is evidence of some corrosion. Unless you did it intentionally, there is no way for anyone to definitively identify how it got that way. The burden, as always, is on you to explain how the minting process would have resulted in such a coin. Did you find any others in auction records that look the same?
@jmlanzaf. I did find this, which does make more sense, and gives a better explanation of why or how this coin ended up like this. Do you think there is any validity to this article?
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot said: @jmlanzaf. I did find this, which does make more sense, and gives a better explanation of why or how this coin ended up like this. Do you think there is any validity to this article?
All kinds of things happen at the Mint. That, however, is NOT your coin as your coin is not on a copper-nickel clad planchet or it wouldn't have the golden color at all.
You could actually make more money working at the 7-11 than by searching coin rolls. And there is certainly no money to be made by arguing about a coin that 100 experienced numismatists view as a normal, slightly damaged coin. If you don't believe ALL of us - I don't see anyone who thinks you have anything there - then spend the $60 and send it to PCGS and you can come back and crow at us. For the record, in the 5 or 6 years that I've been active here, there have been dozens (hundreds?) of people who found a rare, one-of-a-kind error coin and argued with us about it. None of them have ever returned with a slabbed error coin.
I trade you ten uncirculated sacs for that buffoon doubloon if you forget about it. It would be good if you drop the PR rehab, read how things go here, and join us around the fire.
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And your point is??
It is not a typical brass alloy.
The core is copper.
People who know about these dollar coins know that yours is normal. It is not missing a layer (have you checked the edge?) and it's not made of silver.
But keep on scrutinizing and arguing over normal coins. Other collectors in your area are grateful. The time you are spending on this stuff is time you are not spending looking for and finding the real errors .
Fair enough statement but this coin is not made of solid mangansese, or solid brass for that matter. It has a pure copper core with an outer layer of "manganese brass", which consists of .770 copper, .120 zinc, .070 manganese and .040 nickel. These coins can look significantly lighter in color if they have been chemically dipped in Jeweluster, vinegar, or some similar coin cleaner solution, or if they have just been cleaned in general. This a heavily nicked up example and someone imo has tried to improve its appearance by cleaning it, perhaps mechanically, which would account for what look like buffed out details in various places.
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The Sacs can tone pretty differently. I've always kept this one because I liked the way it looked. But in the end, it's still only $1. Excuse the reverse pic, couldn't get the back half of the airtight off. Lol
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Are you blind, man?! That coin was partly made from blue metal!
I have no idea how/what/where/who/why, but it's different so it must be an error. Prove me wrong (but I won't listen, anyway).
when is opy gonna start on a real collection?
You had me rollin' on that one! Lol
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Here you go...
https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/20000120-sacagawea-golden-dollar-coin-available-january-27-in-bags-rolls
so far the coins you have shown are nothing but common everyday coins that have nothing special about them, wishing those coins were what you say isn't going to change the real world fact they are nothing special
you need to research about coins and such, learn from others who have been collecting for many years and understand that just cause you think a coin is special, not many will agree
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@JBK, You’re right, the weight was never brought up before, but I brought it up now as a question of whether or not the missing clad layers would amount to what is missing, even after the tolerances are taken into account. Even then, if the tolerable amount of weight difference lands the coin weight between say 8.09-7.99 grams, does the remainder of what it weighed out to still sound accurate for the amount of clad missing?
The only copper visible on the coin is around the edges, which is what a normal Sacagawea looks like too, except there’s absolutely no brass cladding anywhere on the coin.
@bsshog40, I wasn’t bashing anyone for their opinions, I simply stated that some responses were less knowledgeable in the aspect of helping me to figure out what could have been the cause of why this coin turned out this way. Now I’m sorry if that hurts your feelers, but be that as it may, you have to develop thick skin if you’re going to participate on a forum, and you have to learn to accept that not everyone will always agree with your or the majority’s opinions. I’m allowed to determine my own opinions based on what everyone else says in their comments, and you don’t have to like it, but there’s the door. 👍
You have no clue my friend. I've been through this door much longer than you have. At least I know junk when see it!
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As you tagged me I will respond this one time, but I will not feed your trolling any further. As to this junk coin you posted in the op, I have no idea what happened to this nor do I care. As you have been told repeatedly this is nothing but a mangled coin that has likely been run over several times at your local Walmart. I would not be surprised at all if it turns out that you used some silver paint and then roughed up the coin just so you could post it and have some "fun". I also have no doubt this is a burner account for your previously banned account and while others may enjoy engaging in your nonsense I have no time for it. Reply all you like I have placed you on ignore so I will be spared your drivel until you are banned again.
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I think from now on, once it’s established that someone is unwilling to take the time to learn even the most basic knowledge required to be collecting error coins, every response just needs to be, “Send it to PCGS.”
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OH I don't know maybe because many of them are actual EXPERTS in the topic of consideration?
I don't know what YouTube or Facebook or tiktok stuff you are watching, or just a troll, but seriously, if you actually want a serious discussion and aren't a troll, challenging the experts opinions is not the way to win support here. It's fine to ask questions, and most here will oblige, but dismissing and challenging like you have been will get you nowhere fast.
The fact is most circulated coins suffer from some form of pmd or post mint damage, and have no additional numismatic value. If you ask a question and it's noted that something is pmd, attacking those opinions is not the way forward.
Hopefully you will take a step back and learn to recognize that there is a lot of knowledge to be found here, and it can be a fun place if you don't take opinions personally.
Welcome aboard, and good luck going forward.
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Now that I've seen the image of the coin sitting on the scale...assuming the color is that whitish in hand, it now seems more likely that this piece was mechanically cleaned then plated or coated in something post mint. Ex bezel jewelry piece perhaps. That would explain the normal looking edge also. Likely got removed from the bezel and then kicked around for awhile before op found it. Weight standard is 8.1g so the pre-plating clean job would account for it being a tad light.
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Sac $1 minus 5c for the psychological exam leaves 95c in change
Do we really want to see what he does here with all THOSE coins?
Lucy , please don’t!
@WiskyTangoFoxtrot, are you selling 1986 and 1991D Lincolns on ETSY?
Maybe he' knows the dude selling Bicentennial quarters there for $2000 per.
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If the coin really is silvery in colour underneath the brass plating, and if the coin is actually noticeably underweight, there is one other possibility that has not yet been mentioned in this thread.
It might be a counterfeit.
As noted by others above, these coins do see circulation in Ecuador. Counterfeit golden dollars have turned up in Ecuador. Some of these counterfeit dollars might make their way back to the US mainland, and be found in "change", especially if their use is actually becoming more commonplace in certain parts of the country.
I'm not saying it is a counterfeit. I'm saying it might be. Because Occam's Razor: "It's a counterfeit" is a far simpler, and therefore more probable, answer to your question "Why is this coin like this?", than some kind of elaborate explanation involving some kind of wrong-metal mint error.
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They aren't plated. They're clad/layered. The edge photo shows the correct clad layers.
In general, a possibility with early date Sacagawea dollars.
Those counterfeits (made in Colombia) are a solid alloy, without clad layers.
I think you can avoid a lot of the unproductive back forth by giving a clear explanation of what you think you've found. When I look at the first group of photos I don't see anything other than a banged up dollar coin with a lot of marks that appear to be cause by usage. If you described what you thought was unique about it (color, significance of certain marks, etc.) it would go a long way in helping others focus on what you believe is unique and interesting. If someone describes something as "the most insane find ever" they should be able to clearly define what they believe is "insane" about the coin.
I can't believe this thread is still going strong.
I'm with the OP. He needs to send it to PCGS, express service . . . . . .
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@coinbuf. You know damn well if this coin had been on the ground in any parking lot (for any period of time) and was subject to not only the weather and sunlight, but also being driven over repeatedly, the coin itself would’ve sustained far more damage than what is visible, and you probably wouldn’t be able to identify what coin it was.
Don’t sit on your end and give me a cockamamie response like that and then have the audacity to call me a troll! if you don’t know the answer, but still feel the need to say something, simply put that you don’t know, otherwise quit being a Richard!
Why couldn't it spend a couple hours in a parking lot? It doesn't have to be zero or a year.
@jmlanzaf. Even if that was the case, and it had only been in a parking lot for a day or less, if you take into consideration what the surface of a parking lot looks like, coupled with what it is made from, don’t you think the impressions caused by being smushed between a 2200+ pound vehicle and that surface would’ve caused more damage than what appears on the coin? Also, don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its cladding?
It did "retain its cladding". Your own photo of the coin's edge shows the proper three layers. You've learned nothing in this thread.
You have a normal Sacagawea dollar. The color is throwing you off. Go to the bank and get a few rolls of circulated dollar coins and you will find all sorts of colors, including one like yours.
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Apologies. Let me clarify it for you, “don’t you think it would’ve retained the majority if not all of its “brassy” color?”
At this point, you’re harping on me over a technicality of vocabulary usage, which in this context, would’ve provided similar answers without the need to reword it.
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Dollar coin color can range from near white to near black with every color in between. It's just a matter of what elements and wear it's been subjected to.
Your coin looks normal so there's no reason to speculate further.
You never offer any proof, just questions that you expect others to try to answer. The burden is on you to prove it's an error. (It's not, so you won't be able to).
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"Parking Lot coin" is really just a catch-all phrase that gets used around here for coins with damage. It doesn't have to be a literal parking lot. Even if it were, it could have been pressed into the dirt in a gravel parking lot and seen very few 2200 pound vehicles waiting for its rescue. I'm not saying it's a literal parking lot. But arguing over parking lot versus open field versus swamp is really just a distraction.
There is evidence of some damage. There is evidence of some corrosion. Unless you did it intentionally, there is no way for anyone to definitively identify how it got that way. The burden, as always, is on you to explain how the minting process would have resulted in such a coin. Did you find any others in auction records that look the same?
@jmlanzaf. I did find this, which does make more sense, and gives a better explanation of why or how this coin ended up like this. Do you think there is any validity to this article?
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/anothony-dollar-planchet-meet-sacagawea-dollar-on-this-error-coin.html
Put it in the pocket until you think you can get it into a PO-01 holder. If it fails , crack it out and put it back in the pocket.
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All kinds of things happen at the Mint. That, however, is NOT your coin as your coin is not on a copper-nickel clad planchet or it wouldn't have the golden color at all.
You could actually make more money working at the 7-11 than by searching coin rolls. And there is certainly no money to be made by arguing about a coin that 100 experienced numismatists view as a normal, slightly damaged coin. If you don't believe ALL of us - I don't see anyone who thinks you have anything there - then spend the $60 and send it to PCGS and you can come back and crow at us. For the record, in the 5 or 6 years that I've been active here, there have been dozens (hundreds?) of people who found a rare, one-of-a-kind error coin and argued with us about it. None of them have ever returned with a slabbed error coin.
I trade you ten uncirculated sacs for that buffoon doubloon if you forget about it. It would be good if you drop the PR rehab, read how things go here, and join us around the fire.
I will recruit you when I lay seige to Troy.
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