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1972-D Kennedy Half DDO

OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

So I hit one of my banks this morning. I was standing in line. There was a guy turning in $250 worth of rolled halves at one of the teller windows in front of me. I was of course watching and listening. A teller window came available and I was standing next to this guy. I asked my teller if I could have the rolls of half dollar, this guy just turned in. He overheard my conversation and turned to look at me. (I think CRH'ers can pick each other out a mile away)

He grinned and smiled. He said; you're not going to find anything in there. I said; what do you meant? He said; there's no silver in those rolls! I grinned and smiled back. I said; okay, thanks. My teller asked me if I still wanted them. I said; yes ma'am I do.

The moral of the story. There are coin roll hunters and them there are coin roll hunters!

Pictures to follow shortly.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o:o:o I'm excited for you!

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good eye!! Definitely a doubled die.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    NGC often attributes varieties that are not in CPG, but this particular one is not on their list.

    I believe ANACS will attribute any variety listed on VarietyVista. The 1972-D DDO is not currently listed on their population report, but that may just be because no one has sent any in for attribution.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    NGC often attributes varieties that are not in CPG, but this particular one is not on their list.

    I believe ANACS will attribute any variety listed on VarietyVista. The 1972-D DDO is not currently listed on their population report, but that may just be because no one has sent any in for attribution.

    Thanks @IkesT, appreciate that. So if I submitted it to NGC or PCGS, they would or wouldn't attribute it?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2023 6:42PM

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    NGC often attributes varieties that are not in CPG, but this particular one is not on their list.

    I believe ANACS will attribute any variety listed on VarietyVista. The 1972-D DDO is not currently listed on their population report, but that may just be because no one has sent any in for attribution.

    Thanks @IkesT, appreciate that. So if I submitted it to NGC or PCGS, they would or wouldn't attribute it?

    If you paid PCGS for their variety service, they would label it as a "minor variety " with the designation of "doubled die obverse", but would not name the specific variety number. Off hand, I don't know what NGC would do, but perhaps someone who does know will chime in.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice catch.... An easy one for most to overlook.... Thanks for the great pictures. Cheers, RickO

  • c0injunkyc0injunky Posts: 50 ✭✭✭

    Very nice and great eye!

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty cool find. Seems to be a very minor variety though.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this is not listed in NGC's variety plus section they will not attribute it or put any info on the label. ANACS is the best bet for this type of thing.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you gents!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So I'm thinking, this guy could be on his way to the ANACS top pop column.

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  • The best 1972-D Kennedy half dollar (CONECA) DDO-001 that we have been able to find only grade MS64 at PCGS

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JFK_Collector said:
    The best 1972-D Kennedy half dollar (CONECA) DDO-001 that we have been able to find only grade MS64 at PCGS

    Wayne

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats 👏
    That is a winner!
    I too, have sort of the same situation in a Jeff nickel, though.
    I sent my coin in to PCGS, hoping to have the key dd. A proof 1956dd, only to come back as the "minor" one instead. No number, just the title, minor variety.
    I'll post later.
    ;)

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2023 9:23PM

    @JFK_Collector said:
    The best 1972-D Kennedy half dollar (CONECA) DDO-001 that we have been able to find only grade MS64 at PCGS

    This coin is not a DDO.

    There are no 72-D DDO's listed in the PCGS pop report.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JFK_Collector said:
    The best 1972-D Kennedy half dollar (CONECA) DDO-001 that we have been able to find only grade MS64 at PCGS

    If it appeared in mint sets MS-65 would be "common" and MS-66 would probably be pop top.

    Half dollars are perhaps the most common clad rolls from the '70's but they are still quite difficult to find and quality is typically poor. It's a wonder any varieties are found in BU that don't appear in mint sets much less high grades.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Pretty cool find. Seems to be a very minor variety though.

    It shows the split serifs plainly. That's a good thing.

    Pete

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JFK_Collector said:
    The best 1972-D Kennedy half dollar (CONECA) DDO-001 that we have been able to find only grade MS64 at PCGS

    Again, this cert number is not a DDO.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    I'm wondering if the new CPG edition will be listing this 72-D DDO with an FS number? Or if there's a way to find out before the book hits the streets?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    I'm wondering if the new CPG edition will be listing this 72-D DDO with an FS number? Or if there's a way to find out before the book hits the streets?

    You'd have to ask Bill Fivaz.

  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    Wexler show 2 varieties. This coin it is as the WDDO-001, less accentuate but interesting on the E in WE. I have a clear one in 65 ANACS, but personally I think are much more variants from this. For me it is very surprising that this denomination it is almost ignored. And they are many, many DDO's or DDR's.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @IkesT said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Thanks gents!

    One thing is odd. I check several times. Unless I'm missing it or looking in the wrong place (and I probably am), I don't see one of these listed in PCGS, NGC or ANACS. I do see where variety vista has attributed them. I need a reality check.

    For many series, PCGS only attributes varieties that are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, and the 1972-D DDO is not listed in the current CPG.

    I'm wondering if the new CPG edition will be listing this 72-D DDO with an FS number? Or if there's a way to find out before the book hits the streets?

    You'd have to ask Bill Fivaz.

    Let me know what he says.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @silviosi said:
    I have a clear one in 65 ANACS,

    What's a clear one?

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  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yep

  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    The 1972-D DDO show in function of the Die stage different levels. A clear one mean we have all the characteristics of this DDO. This coin here it is the DDO with other Die stage I have and studied with Wex. Larry can say more about but I do not know if it is here. Mentor Bill also.

    what I say: it is that those coins has many, many DDO's and DDR's uncatalogued. This it is the word of the varieties.

    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. MARK TWAIN

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @silviosi said:
    I have a clear one in 65 ANACS,

    Could you post a picture of your 65 ANACS here please.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2023 8:25PM

    I will try with my new crazy camera as is, if not when Ray send me the system no problem.

    Tomorrow morning I made you some Microscope photos.

    PS: I will ask Larry and another to come to explain more about, they are experts, me I look for Design Varieties, and find those coins.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought I had one of these. I just checked my inventory and it's a 1971-D 50C DDO FS-101

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 27, 2024 3:51PM

    What if I sent it off to Variety Vista or CONECA and have one of their attributes check it out first?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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