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ANA WFoM 2024 to be moved to OKC?

OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

Thread from ATS.

https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/429952-an-ana-wfom-has-been-moved/

Although I would love it--would certainly make my trip easier, I just don't see it happening.

Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the link.

    The ANA website is still showing 2024 at Rosemont but the other future dates are no longer listed.

    https://www.money.org/events/future-conventions

    We shall see as they say.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    goldengolden Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I asked the ANA a couple of weeks ago about future shows. They sent an Email that said the 2025 was in OKC and 2026 in PIT.

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    ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope I can make the OKC one, whenever it is. Visit the folks and catch a WFoM in one trip? Sign me up!

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Huge news if accurate! I like the idea of a rotation among a handful of cities.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a long thread here maybe 5 years ago where the ANA's Convention Manager explained the logistics of why only a very few convention centers were willing to host the ANA shows. Unlike Doctors, cheap coin dealers don't buy expensive rooms and meals at convention hotels.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad to see them moving the show around to different cities. Travel deters many collectors, so moving the show allows them to attend large shows. Cheers, RickO

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for looking into that @CaptHenway

    Looks like a 2024 ANA two day visit is still in my plans.

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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    There was a long thread here maybe 5 years ago where the ANA's Convention Manager explained the logistics of why only a very few convention centers were willing to host the ANA shows. Unlike Doctors, cheap coin dealers don't buy expensive rooms and meals at convention hotels.

    That is really a very unfair statement. Coin dealers on the circuit are doing several shows each month. Even a small dealer on the road will spend $2500 per show for table fees, airline, hotel, food. Other “doctor” conventions are usually 1x or 2x per year and they can spend more since it’s really a vacation write off.

    Many dealers work very close on margins so they are not going to spend a lot on a room to sleep However pretty much all the dealers do go out for a nice meal at the end of each day

    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The convention sites don't count meals if it's not an organized banquet which is what drives $ to the hotels. Maybe room service.

    If you stay in a (nice or seedy) hotel that's not part of the convention center footprint it doesn't count as part of the room night count.

    I knew the person who used to "put on" our Annual Manager & Partner meeting and other meetings. The contract was for so many room nights and so many meals, take or pay. If you did that, the meeting room space was free (not the catering, which was another kidney). Geesh- for what they charged for a cookie platter, you could have grabbed a cab to & from the loop and bought the cookies from Mrs. Fields.

    Sure the CVB puts out statistics that say "visitors spent $250M in 2019" but that's not what the hotels and convention site track.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2024 is still in Rosemont.
    2025 will be in Oklahoma City.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, from what I'm hearing, OKC in 2025 looks like the real deal. I did a Bing search and OKC has a real nice, relatively modern Convention Center. Any of the Midwestern folks on here familiar with the OKC airport? I'm assuming most flights to there will have to be through major hubs. I usually fly American so that will mean a connection through DFW. Speaking of Dallas, I figure that OKC in August will be like Dallas in August - Hot!

    Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is OKC really an easy airport to access? Looks rather difficult to get there with everything needing a layover somewhere. Reminds me of trying to get to San Diego from the east coast, quicker to walk than deal with that flight nightmare.

    I thought the ANA took accessibility into account on where they choose to locate the show? I guess if they make everyone on each coast of the country suffer equally to get smack dab in the middle, nobody will complain?

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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2023 6:41AM

    Not to be a "Negative Nancy"--I selfishly love the idea of a national show in Oklahoma City--but between 100+ temperatures in August and the difficulty getting here I'm skeptical of the viability of such a show.

    OKC is the epitome of "You can't get there from here.". It seem like at least 75% of flights into Will Rogers Airport require a hub connection. Even flights from major hubs such as Chicago or Atlanta require a layover at some other airport--either Dallas or (for some reason) Minneapolis.

    Once you get here OKC is a great convention town....nice convention center, very reasonable hotel rates, great food. I'm amazed the ANA chose to have a show here, though.

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately air service will be difficult...

    You want to consider booking as soon as the window opens, usually 360 days before flight.

    From the WRWA site (https://flyokc.com/airlines):

    Alaska Airlines - daily to Seattle WA

    Allegiant - Las Vegas, seasonal to LA, Destin-Ft Walton Beach and Orlando-Sanford. "Flights operate on Thursdays and Sundays with occasionally added days of operation."

    American - daily nonstop departures to Charlotte, Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Los Angeles, Miami, Philadelphia, Phoenix and Ronald Reagan Washington National.

    Breeze - Tampa

    Delta - Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul and Salt Lake City.

    Frontier - Denver twice weekly. Seasonal nonstop service to Orlando.

    Southwest - Baltimore, Chicago Midway, Denver, Houston Hobby, Las Vegas, Nashville, Phoenix , St. Louis and Ronald Reagan Washington National. Seasonal Sunday nonstop to Orlando, FL.

    United - Chicago, Denver, Houston Intercontinental, New York/Newark, San Francisco and Washington Dulles. Note: New York/Newark is seasonally suspended from January through April.

    I will offer that it is an easy 3 hour drive from DFW Airport.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    2025 will be in Oklahoma City.

    This is VERY VERY surprising.

    About the only reason I can think of for this choice is to get everyone to cry for Rosemont again.

    Remember what a flop LA (2009) was? This is going to dwarf that. I can’t see many collectors from the East Coast to want to go there.

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    2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can’t see many collectors from the East Coast to want to go there.

    Hey, I'll go - it fits my criteria of being only one time zone away. Besides, it's not that much hotter than South Carolina in August and, best of all, no snow to worry about.

    Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2ndCharter said:
    Well, from what I'm hearing, OKC in 2025 looks like the real deal. I did a Bing search and OKC has a real nice, relatively modern Convention Center....

    Relatively modern? It was still under construction last time the Google Street View car went by in 2020.

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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @2ndCharter said:
    Well, from what I'm hearing, OKC in 2025 looks like the real deal. I did a Bing search and OKC has a real nice, relatively modern Convention Center....

    Relatively modern? It was still under construction last time the Google Street View car went by in 2020.

    Opened January of 2021

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    2025 will be in Oklahoma City.

    This is VERY VERY surprising.

    About the only reason I can think of for this choice is to get everyone to cry for Rosemont again.

    Remember what a flop LA (2009) was? This is going to dwarf that. I can’t see many collectors from the East Coast to want to go there.

    Anaheim in 2017(?) was lackluster too. Pittsburgh will be interesting. OKC is going to be a real challenge.

    While Rosemont isn’t a great place to visit, it is a very logical place for the convention to be held at.

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    TomthemailcarrierTomthemailcarrier Posts: 636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve already bought 3 tickets to the Pittsburgh Pirates daytime game against the Braves. That way I can be sure that two of my buddies will join me on the trip. I love the summer time coin show.

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    kruegerkrueger Posts: 807 ✭✭✭

    Vegas baby Vegas!
    Most hotels could support our smaller convention
    Plenty of eats, activities. Cabs abound. Too many hotels to choose from.
    I think east coast dealers would go THERE.
    Smaller shows there now are very crowded.
    Hot in summer , but who is outside the air conditioned cosinos in every hotel.
    Easy to fly in and out. No car needed.

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