Another Difficult Buffalo 5c GTG....1921-S
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Hard to tell... mushy strike with somewhat unusual color. I am thinking we have a 50-50 shot between a 45 and 50
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I’ll guess MS63 with weak strike,
but I would not pay MS63 price for it.
Looks AU-50 to 53 to me due to the wear on the hip. It's a rather nice coin for a 21-S. Mint luster still shows in spots. It's been clashed, but that doesn't affect the grade. Reverse has less than a full strike, with a weak head and horn.
Pete
55
64+
My guess would be AU53.... A nice Buff with still a lot of detail. Cheers, RickO
Somewhere in the 45 to 50 range.
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Flat hip, hair on head and shoulder on reverse with horn the way it is, on any other coin would XF40-45 but with the weak strikes of the 21-s It would not surprise me if it were a AU58. Tough coin to grade but the 18-thru 24 are the toughest. enjoy seeing Buffs but the grading baffles me sometimes.
Sometimes?
How about all the time.............
Pete
'21-S is tough.
it should easily go 53.
it's a very nice specimen for the date.
Your right, all the time would be correct.
21 S, it’s either the strike or laminations that are the main problems. I’ll say 62 although I would take a good strike circulated one over an MS weak strike any day.
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FTR... I like the coin and the Buff experts hopefully will agree that there are challenges grading various dates... including the 21-s among others. I will be blunt in that in responding now I was expecting that others would be more conservative than the range I suggested...
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Obverse appears to have far less wear than reverse unless the reverse is just an awful strike. But it looks like wear to me from the photo.
My guess is 55.
The 21-S was one of the very last coins I acquired for my Buffalo set. A very tough date to find nice.
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MS-63. The slab might say higher, but I won't give super high grades to coins that are poorly struck. It's got a couple of marks in the hair above the braid which lowered the grade a point for me.
I don't think that there is any wear on the piece, but it's got the previously mentioned marks and some spots.
MS64.
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Thank you for the favorable comments, with which I mostly agree. I feel like my posts lately have been a bit tricky, and this is no exception. First, it's not unc. The NGC close ups will show the wear a bit better.
I bought it raw as an xf- thinking that it had beautiful toning and that it was at least a 45 or even a 50+, with an obvious weak strike. It is just a little glossy, though the pics above and below accurately portray it, so there was some "risk" involved in the purchase. Still, there are no hairlines, and it has a very pleasing look.
PCGS graded it xf details, cleaned. Usually when I get a no-grade coin back, I can at least understand the reasoning, so with this one, I can say that it is a bit too pretty and has a little sheen, so I understand the details grade even if I don't agree with it. However, when I believe in a coin, I am usually persistent, so I sent it in to NGC where is just came back as au, cleaned, where it currently resides, and now I need to add 2 grading fees to my basis in the coin.
I still believe in the coin. So, for now, I'll just hang on to it. I know folks who put a coin like this on a sunny windowsill in an envelope for 6 months or so, and I just may do that, but for now, I'm just gonna stew a bit. It is still a very pretty coin.
Tom
If the coin has the luster it appears to have in the pic, I'd say MS 62 or MS 63. You really need to see the coin. It's a lot like with Capped Bust Halves; many Overton varieties aren't fully struck, so you have Unc. coins missing detail. Seeing the coin makes it easier to spot luster breaks.
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With the weak strikes prevalent for this date Buff, I would feel an AU50 is an exceptable grade. Very few VF+ thru AU55's have a full horn due to the weak strikes and this coin seems to fit the bill. From the many 21S Buff's I have seen, I would like this coin in that grade and think it is very attractive with nice color and luster for the grade. I hope you decide to keep it, as I feel you will become attached to it.
Jim
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Still an attractive coin and a very tough date.
I like it👍
The coin does look slightly unnatural. I thought it was the lighting. the biggest thing I see is that it looks like the wear is akin to very heavy friction; the high points are worn much more than the lower points. This should be correctable. I think a little rubbing and letting the coin darken a little will still get at least an AU-50 grade.
There's nothing really wrong with the coin but PCGS probably thought it had been cleaned. Combined with the unusual wear it looks a little funny. I still think there's an AU-53 under that.