Wish I could make a call on the Super Bowl. Toughest Super Bowl to try to handicap in recent memory.
Frankly, as far as the Eagles winning, I would have rather seen the Bills win the AFC. But they didn't, so the Eagles will have to deal with the Chiefs.
Opening line is Chiefs -1.5. I can't see it straying too far from that. Could tighten up or loosen up maybe a half point one way or the other.
Was fortunate to have 2 of my 4 SB bets wind up in the SB. All 4 were placed in October. Not large bets, but I will profit regardless of the outcome. An Eagles win pays more. So who to root for. I have a weakness for what's known in betting circles as the "Holy Ghost". Whereby wins come in streaks of 3. Could be a horse race or whatever. So leaning toward this possible eventuality coming where KC wins.. But will be pleased with either result. When the game gets closer may consider an extra play. The over is definitely a consideration. It's just enjoyable to finally enjoy a bet I can in no way lose. Hope other players here have the same experience in their plays.
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i am so effing stupid for dropping on Boston. they are the one of the most enigmatic and infuriating teams in any sport. up 12 in the 4th against Houston and lose to blow it up.
so let's continue the effing stupid trend and try a T20 golf bet. Patrick Cantgetlaid will you freaking win one of these for me dude
@galaxy27 said:
i am so effing stupid for dropping on Boston. they are the one of the most enigmatic and infuriating teams in any sport. up 12 in the 4th against Houston and lose to blow it up.
so let's continue the effing stupid trend and try a T20 golf bet. Patrick Cantgetlaid will you freaking win one of these for me dude
-4684.92
Looking forward to the return of Scottie.
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Geez, that sure is short odds considering he finished 6th in this tourney last season, and didn't win a tourney until his 6th start last season.
Great golfer of course. But the real odds, I think should be around +700, in that range. But the bookies know how much Scottie is beloved out there, and simply aren't going to give the bettors any value on him. They could make him even money here, and probably there would still be some bettors who would bet on him.
I'm not saying he can't win, frankly I have no clue one way or the other. However that +400 sure doesn't seem to me to be a good value.
Leonard Tose may have been even worse. He literally gambled away ownership of the Philadelphia Eagles, along with his trucking company. Most if not all of it went down the drain at the A/C casinos. I think it was also the blackjack tables as with Daly.
Most sports fans, especially golf fans, know that Daly was a big gambler. But 55 million, my goodness. He would have been better off buying a piece of a casino, even starting his own with some partners.
read up on Tose. a very sobering, cautionary tale.
as for Daly, it's a semi-miracle that he's still alive. one of the most unhealthiest lifestyles around.
true story. couple of years ago i was at the Insperity golf tournament (Champions tour) and Daly was hitting his 2nd shot on the par-4 18th. i was at the green watching with my girlfriend. he rinsed his approach and i said out loud, "oh no." she goes, "what?" i said, "he's about to go to the dark side." sure enough, he transition to full-blown IDGAF mode in a matter of seconds. another ball was in the air in the blink of an eye. when he got to the green, he didn't even line up his putt -- he just walked up and casually hit it. and he did it again. and again. and again. after carding a quad 8, he immediately walked off the green, hopped into his cart (he's allowed to use a cart on the Champs tour), and floored it. saw him almost flatten a handful of people.
John Daly's salary
According to Spotrac, John Daly has earned $10.9 million from official tournaments and $1.74 million from unofficial tournaments, resulting in total career earnings of $12 million. Apart from this, his major earnings total is $1,085,286.
John Daly's salary
According to Spotrac, John Daly has earned $10.9 million from official tournaments and $1.74 million from unofficial tournaments, resulting in total career earnings of $12 million. Apart from this, his major earnings total is $1,085,286.
Wonder how Daly came up with that 55 million dollar number?
Perhaps endorsements? Either that or he's got a vivid imagination.
Geez, that sure is short odds considering he finished 6th in this tourney last season, and didn't win a tourney until his 6th start last season.
Great golfer of course. But the real odds, I think should be around +700, in that range. But the bookies know how much Scottie is beloved out there, and simply aren't going to give the bettors any value on him. They could make him even money here, and probably there would still be some bettors who would bet on him.
I'm not saying he can't win, frankly I have no clue one way or the other. However that +400 sure doesn't seem to me to be a good value.
Well after the first round, not so sure I'd like to have Scottie at 3 back, tied for 15th place.
Of course he is always capable of turning it on. We shall see.
Well after the first round, not so sure I'd like to have Scottie at 3 back, tied for 15th place.
Of course he is always capable of turning it on. We shall see.
the first two days of this tournament are played on two different courses. yesterday Scottie played Spyglass Hill, the tougher of the two. only a handful of players who played SH shot a better score than he did, so it was actually a good showing for his first round since his mishap.
will be interesting to see what he does at Pebble Beach today. if i was a betting man (oh wait, i am!), i suspect he'll duck the 67 he shot yesterday.
Well after the first round, not so sure I'd like to have Scottie at 3 back, tied for 15th place.
Of course he is always capable of turning it on. We shall see.
the first two days of this tournament are played on two different courses. yesterday Scottie played Spyglass Hill, the tougher of the two. only a handful of players who played SH shot a better score than he did, so it was actually a good showing for his first round since his mishap.
will be interesting to see what he does at Pebble Beach today. if i was a betting man (oh wait, i am!), i suspect he'll duck the 67 he shot yesterday.
Interesting, I never heard of that before, two courses for one golf tourney?
I just looked at the current odds. He is still at +400 despite being in 15th place. The factor you mentioned, must have something to do with his odds staying the same, as still the favorite to win.
Interesting, I never heard of that before, two courses for one golf tourney?
yep. and prior to last year it was actually 3, with Monterey Peninsula also in the rotation. it used to be Pebble-Spyglass-Monterey the first three rounds, then Pebble for the 4th. now it's Pebble-Spyglass the first two rounds, then Pebble for the final two.
(Scottie even on his round thru 5 today at Pebble)
will be interesting to see what he does at Pebble Beach today. if i was a betting man (oh wait, i am!), i suspect he'll duck the 67 he shot yesterday.
and to the surprise of absolutely no one, i was wrong. Stiffler with a 70 at Pebble today. T20 at the halfway mark.
and speaking of T20, Cantgetlaid is in the money at the moment. this is déjà vu all over again. i have been in this position sooo many times with these exasperating top 20 bets, and more times than i care to remember it ends with a colossal implosion. if Cantgetlaid halts that trend, i'm officially changing his name to Patrick Cananddoesgetlaidallthetime
Interesting that right now, Scottie is thru 11, at 1,000 to 1 odds to win. He's only 4 strokes back.
Yes I know, stevek must have misread it. Nope I looked at it 5 or 6 times, seemed surreal.
I realize that he has ten other bodies to climb over to win, and I realize how extremely difficult that is to do at this late stage in the tourney. But at 1,000 to 1 odds, the bookies are giving him basically zero chance to win? Very strange to me, but I guess I don't know chit about golf odds. But this is Scottie Scheffler?
Scottie just birdied two straight holes to pull within 2 strokes of second place. The problem is that McIlroy did the same thing.
Rory McIlroy
-2000
Scottie Scheffler
+100000
The way I see it, if Mcllroy collapses (highly unlikely), and if Scottie continues to shoot some more birdies, that $100 bet just turned into cool $100,000
I'm not quite comprehending it fully I guess. One invariable truth about bookies, they never give money away.
BEW - the odds I'm looking at is from FanDuel, so it's up to date.
Stiffler was too far back, too many bodies to climb over. he'll be lucky to finish inside the top 10.
a couple of other takes.
you guys aren't going to believe this, but i lost a top 20 bet. i'm too drained to even make fun of his name. Cantlay, who had two top-20 finishes to start the season and had placed no worse than 11th in the past 4 iterations of this tournament, didn't even sniff the mark for me. i can only speak from personal experiences, but these are the toughest bets to make money off of. and it just doesn't feel like they should be. definition of insanity?
Rory is about to win this tournament. makes me wonder if THIS is the year for him. ELEVEN YEARS since he last won a major. finally time for him to complete the slam at Augusta?
Bored stiff last night at my girlfriend's sisters birthday party so took the C's when they were down 14
You may have done it just because it was your team the Celtics. Or maybe you were just bored stiff and the Celtics happen to be playing - LOL
But that is an interesting wager for a number of reasons.
The interesting part was they were down in the 3rd quarter and were still minus money for a win until the start 4th quarter when they were down 14 like 94-80.i think, that's when I saw the +$$ for a win so I threw a 20 dollar dart at it
Bored stiff last night at my girlfriend's sisters birthday party so took the C's when they were down 14
You may have done it just because it was your team the Celtics. Or maybe you were just bored stiff and the Celtics happen to be playing - LOL
But that is an interesting wager for a number of reasons.
The interesting part was they were down in the 3rd quarter and were still minus money for a win until the start 4th quarter when they were down 14 like 94-80.i think, that's when I saw the +$$ for a win so I threw a 20 dollar dart at it
That is most interesting. Especially going from minus money to a very nice +450 in a short period of time. Of course the reason was the Sixers added to their lead, and time left in the game had diminished. But as stated before by Galaxy, in the NBA, a lead can vanish in a short period of time, even a large lead. And a championship team such as the Celtics, are certainly capable of turning a game around.
Justin Thomas
+1200
Hideki Matsuyama
+1600
Sungjae Im
+2200
Sam Burns
+2500
Tom Kim
+3500
Corey Conners
+4500
Sahith Theegala
+4500
Sepp Straka
+4500
Byeong Hun An
+4500
If Scottie doesn't fire, there's some fat odds behind him. If ya can pick the right one. If the next two also don't fire, and ya wheeled say four or five players, that might be an interesting situation.
Now if Scottie wins it by 10 strokes, please ignore this post. LOL
Put in a SB/Phoenix Open parlay today. Over 49 points with Theegala top 20. May do a few throwaway plays on the final score. Would be a first for me playing a final score play.
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I never bet favorites in golf. Favor the top 10 or 20 play. Sometimes, if you don't have ties, you can come close to the same payoff as a win bet on the favorite. And you don't have to worry on your play having to win. And if the top 10 or 20 play wins the tournament you can't get shorted with ties. You get the whole amount.
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@BLUEJAYWAY said:
I never bet favorites in golf. Favor the top 10 or 20 play. Sometimes, if you don't have ties, you can come close to the same payoff as a win bet on the favorite. And you don't have to worry on your play having to win. And if the top 10 or 20 play wins the tournament you can't get shorted with ties. You get the whole amount.
From what I see, the bookies are taking way too much juice on the top players. In my opinion, close to absurdity for the bettors. I mean yea, can you win a coin flip for a dollar, and you only made 60 cents profit? Yes you've still made 60 cents. But it doesn't take long on odds such as this to lose whatever money you've got. And frankly, it seems to me that's exactly what the books are doing with these top golfers, taking around 30% to 40% juice.
Not sure if there is better value on the second and third tier type golfers. I don't know nearly enough about the players to try to handicap it. But I'd have to believe the better value is likely with the second or third tier players. Can't be much worse than 30% to 40% can it?
Well the Super Bowl is around 24 hours away, and frankly, I just don't see any value either way in this game as far as the spread or ML.
As for props, of course the public is going to over-bet Mahomes for TD's, Barkley for rushing yards, etc. I've seen this type of Super Bowl whereby a player who perhaps doesn't score a TD all season, or very few, winds-up scoring one. Might be some interesting fat odds on some of these types?
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Who are these guys pickin' ???

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Good handicapping on that parlay. 👍
Wish I could make a call on the Super Bowl. Toughest Super Bowl to try to handicap in recent memory.
Frankly, as far as the Eagles winning, I would have rather seen the Bills win the AFC. But they didn't, so the Eagles will have to deal with the Chiefs.
Opening line is Chiefs -1.5. I can't see it straying too far from that. Could tighten up or loosen up maybe a half point one way or the other.
Was fortunate to have 2 of my 4 SB bets wind up in the SB. All 4 were placed in October. Not large bets, but I will profit regardless of the outcome. An Eagles win pays more. So who to root for. I have a weakness for what's known in betting circles as the "Holy Ghost". Whereby wins come in streaks of 3. Could be a horse race or whatever. So leaning toward this possible eventuality coming where KC wins.. But will be pleased with either result. When the game gets closer may consider an extra play. The over is definitely a consideration. It's just enjoyable to finally enjoy a bet I can in no way lose. Hope other players here have the same experience in their plays.
I came so. close to. a $1600 and a $1100 payday!
I needed Kelce to score a TD to fill a parlay
Another bet I had was a trifecta play
Most passing, rushing and receiving yard leaders for the day, I had Daniels, Worthy and Barkley
Daniels and Barkley hit but Worthy came about 30 yards short 🙄
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you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
i am so effing stupid for dropping on Boston. they are the one of the most enigmatic and infuriating teams in any sport. up 12 in the 4th against Houston and lose to blow it up.
so let's continue the effing stupid trend and try a T20 golf bet. Patrick Cantgetlaid will you freaking win one of these for me dude
-4684.92
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Looking forward to the return of Scottie.
Scottie the favorite to win at +400
Geez, that sure is short odds considering he finished 6th in this tourney last season, and didn't win a tourney until his 6th start last season.
Great golfer of course. But the real odds, I think should be around +700, in that range. But the bookies know how much Scottie is beloved out there, and simply aren't going to give the bettors any value on him. They could make him even money here, and probably there would still be some bettors who would bet on him.
I'm not saying he can't win, frankly I have no clue one way or the other. However that +400 sure doesn't seem to me to be a good value.
Will have to see how he recovers from his hand injury.
Maybe the doctors replaced his hand with some sort of bionic hand, which improved his game, and why he is only +400. LOL
If so, maybe that will pick up the speed of play.
here you go peeps
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Leonard Tose may have been even worse. He literally gambled away ownership of the Philadelphia Eagles, along with his trucking company. Most if not all of it went down the drain at the A/C casinos. I think it was also the blackjack tables as with Daly.
Most sports fans, especially golf fans, know that Daly was a big gambler. But 55 million, my goodness. He would have been better off buying a piece of a casino, even starting his own with some partners.
read up on Tose. a very sobering, cautionary tale.
as for Daly, it's a semi-miracle that he's still alive. one of the most unhealthiest lifestyles around.
true story. couple of years ago i was at the Insperity golf tournament (Champions tour) and Daly was hitting his 2nd shot on the par-4 18th. i was at the green watching with my girlfriend. he rinsed his approach and i said out loud, "oh no." she goes, "what?" i said, "he's about to go to the dark side." sure enough, he transition to full-blown IDGAF mode in a matter of seconds. another ball was in the air in the blink of an eye. when he got to the green, he didn't even line up his putt -- he just walked up and casually hit it. and he did it again. and again. and again. after carding a quad 8, he immediately walked off the green, hopped into his cart (he's allowed to use a cart on the Champs tour), and floored it. saw him almost flatten a handful of people.
he is one of a kind
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Pasted:
John Daly's salary
According to Spotrac, John Daly has earned $10.9 million from official tournaments and $1.74 million from unofficial tournaments, resulting in total career earnings of $12 million. Apart from this, his major earnings total is $1,085,286.
Wonder how Daly came up with that 55 million dollar number?
Perhaps endorsements? Either that or he's got a vivid imagination.
About Daly. I read some time ago that he drinks 2 gallons of chocolate milk a day.
John Daly is 58 years old. I just saw where the Vegas over/under is 61.
That's my only John Daly knowledge that I know...
I did make a few adjustments & exceptions though...
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At that time...My Vodka was Stolichnaya...
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20% Lemonade
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Well after the first round, not so sure I'd like to have Scottie at 3 back, tied for 15th place.
Of course he is always capable of turning it on. We shall see.
the first two days of this tournament are played on two different courses. yesterday Scottie played Spyglass Hill, the tougher of the two. only a handful of players who played SH shot a better score than he did, so it was actually a good showing for his first round since his mishap.
will be interesting to see what he does at Pebble Beach today. if i was a betting man (oh wait, i am!), i suspect he'll duck the 67 he shot yesterday.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Interesting, I never heard of that before, two courses for one golf tourney?
I just looked at the current odds. He is still at +400 despite being in 15th place. The factor you mentioned, must have something to do with his odds staying the same, as still the favorite to win.
yep. and prior to last year it was actually 3, with Monterey Peninsula also in the rotation. it used to be Pebble-Spyglass-Monterey the first three rounds, then Pebble for the 4th. now it's Pebble-Spyglass the first two rounds, then Pebble for the final two.
(Scottie even on his round thru 5 today at Pebble)
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
and to the surprise of absolutely no one, i was wrong. Stiffler with a 70 at Pebble today. T20 at the halfway mark.
and speaking of T20, Cantgetlaid is in the money at the moment. this is déjà vu all over again. i have been in this position sooo many times with these exasperating top 20 bets, and more times than i care to remember it ends with a colossal implosion. if Cantgetlaid halts that trend, i'm officially changing his name to Patrick Cananddoesgetlaidallthetime
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Interesting that right now, Scottie is thru 11, at 1,000 to 1 odds to win. He's only 4 strokes back.
Yes I know, stevek must have misread it. Nope I looked at it 5 or 6 times, seemed surreal.
I realize that he has ten other bodies to climb over to win, and I realize how extremely difficult that is to do at this late stage in the tourney. But at 1,000 to 1 odds, the bookies are giving him basically zero chance to win? Very strange to me, but I guess I don't know chit about golf odds. But this is Scottie Scheffler?
Unless it's a computer malfunction?
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Scottie Scheffler
+100000
Scottie just birdied two straight holes to pull within 2 strokes of second place. The problem is that McIlroy did the same thing.
Rory McIlroy
-2000
Scottie Scheffler
+100000
The way I see it, if Mcllroy collapses (highly unlikely), and if Scottie continues to shoot some more birdies, that $100 bet just turned into cool $100,000
I'm not quite comprehending it fully I guess. One invariable truth about bookies, they never give money away.
BEW - the odds I'm looking at is from FanDuel, so it's up to date.
Yea, those dam bookies know what they're doing.
Mcllroy now at -8000
@stevek
Stiffler was too far back, too many bodies to climb over. he'll be lucky to finish inside the top 10.
a couple of other takes.
you guys aren't going to believe this, but i lost a top 20 bet. i'm too drained to even make fun of his name. Cantlay, who had two top-20 finishes to start the season and had placed no worse than 11th in the past 4 iterations of this tournament, didn't even sniff the mark for me. i can only speak from personal experiences, but these are the toughest bets to make money off of. and it just doesn't feel like they should be. definition of insanity?
Rory is about to win this tournament. makes me wonder if THIS is the year for him. ELEVEN YEARS since he last won a major. finally time for him to complete the slam at Augusta?
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Bored stiff last night at my girlfriend's sisters birthday party so took the C's when they were down 14
You may have done it just because it was your team the Celtics. Or maybe you were just bored stiff and the Celtics happen to be playing - LOL
But that is an interesting wager for a number of reasons.
The interesting part was they were down in the 3rd quarter and were still minus money for a win until the start 4th quarter when they were down 14 like 94-80.i think, that's when I saw the +$$ for a win so I threw a 20 dollar dart at it
That is most interesting. Especially going from minus money to a very nice +450 in a short period of time. Of course the reason was the Sixers added to their lead, and time left in the game had diminished. But as stated before by Galaxy, in the NBA, a lead can vanish in a short period of time, even a large lead. And a championship team such as the Celtics, are certainly capable of turning a game around.
Well done. 👍
WM Phoenix Open
Scottie Scheffler
+280
Justin Thomas
+1200
Hideki Matsuyama
+1600
Sungjae Im
+2200
Sam Burns
+2500
Tom Kim
+3500
Corey Conners
+4500
Sahith Theegala
+4500
Sepp Straka
+4500
Byeong Hun An
+4500
If Scottie doesn't fire, there's some fat odds behind him. If ya can pick the right one. If the next two also don't fire, and ya wheeled say four or five players, that might be an interesting situation.
Now if Scottie wins it by 10 strokes, please ignore this post. LOL
Always liked this event. They have the books right at the course.
"A souvenir hat, souvenir shirt, and a $50 bet to win on Scottie Scheffler. Will that be all sir?"
Put in a SB/Phoenix Open parlay today. Over 49 points with Theegala top 20. May do a few throwaway plays on the final score. Would be a first for me playing a final score play.
So after one round, Scottie is tied for 27th place. Yet he is the favorite to win at +450
I never bet favorites in golf. Favor the top 10 or 20 play. Sometimes, if you don't have ties, you can come close to the same payoff as a win bet on the favorite. And you don't have to worry on your play having to win. And if the top 10 or 20 play wins the tournament you can't get shorted with ties. You get the whole amount.
From what I see, the bookies are taking way too much juice on the top players. In my opinion, close to absurdity for the bettors. I mean yea, can you win a coin flip for a dollar, and you only made 60 cents profit? Yes you've still made 60 cents. But it doesn't take long on odds such as this to lose whatever money you've got. And frankly, it seems to me that's exactly what the books are doing with these top golfers, taking around 30% to 40% juice.
Not sure if there is better value on the second and third tier type golfers. I don't know nearly enough about the players to try to handicap it. But I'd have to believe the better value is likely with the second or third tier players. Can't be much worse than 30% to 40% can it?
Well the Super Bowl is around 24 hours away, and frankly, I just don't see any value either way in this game as far as the spread or ML.
As for props, of course the public is going to over-bet Mahomes for TD's, Barkley for rushing yards, etc. I've seen this type of Super Bowl whereby a player who perhaps doesn't score a TD all season, or very few, winds-up scoring one. Might be some interesting fat odds on some of these types?
Let's see if any of these hit with odds of +950 or more? Probably not. LOL
Any Time Touchdown Scorer
Saquon Barkley
-190
Jalen Hurts
-120
Travis Kelce
+130
Kareem Hunt
+145
Xavier Worthy
+160
A.J. Brown
+180
DeVonta Smith
+230
Marquise Brown
+290
Dallas Goedert
+310
Isiah Pacheco
+360
Patrick Mahomes
+400
DeAndre Hopkins
+500
Noah Gray
+500
JuJu Smith-Schuster
+600
Philadelphia Defense
+650
Kansas City Defense
+750
Samaje Perine
+950
Kenneth Gainwell
+1100
Justin Watson
+1200
Jahan Dotson
+1700
Johnny Wilson
+2200
Grant Calcaterra
+2700
Nikko Remigio
+3000
Peyton Hendershot
+3800
Carson Steele
+4200
Will Shipley
+4500
Khari Blasingame
+6000
Parris Campbell
+7000
E.J. Jenkins
+7000
You forgot Andy Reid +500000 😀.
I did forget. If all the Chiefs running backs get injured, Andy may have to go in. 😆
Or Andy might call a "Refrigerator Perry" type play for himself. 😆
Oh...Gotta type/talk like Jimmy....
Lemme tell ya Brent... There's No Question About It....
Jahan Dotson - What did I tell ya? 17-1 long shot.
Problem was his TD was called back to the 1 yard line. 🙁
Cooper DeJean - his TD not even on the list.
That means he was over 70 - 1 odds if a website had odds on him. May have been a field bet available somewhere.
Blind squirrel stevek finds an acorn. LOL
Lost all my bets except Xavier Worthy anytime TD
Lost about $250 total on the game
Not much action on games after today for a bit
Seems like our buddy Galaxy may be doing the same, as he mentioned in another thread.
Actually a good idea. When I was younger, I wish that I had been wise enough to do that. But I wasn't and got crushed chasing losses.