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Just added a cool “PL” to my “PL” collection
wondercoin
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As much as I enjoy my 1970-D Kennedy 50C collection of PL’s and other neat modern PL coins, I’ve really taken a liking to my new member of my “PL club”. Wondercoin.
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Congrats! It looks great! I have tried to pick up a few PL gold coins but outbid on the nicer ones. Others seem just too hair-lined for my liking.
I’m thinking that the account of @wondercoin has been taken over by an enthusiast of really cool, classic gold coins!
😉
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Looks nicer than 62 to me
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I'd love to see Mitch's PL 1970-D Kennedies too!
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Incredible coin!! All day long!
Holy Cow that is amazing! Please feel free to show images of your other PL coins, too, as I'd especially like to see things like the '70-D PL JFK.
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Beautiful. Can say no more. Congratulations.
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Sweet!
I would like to see more of your PL collection as well.
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‘’Looks nicer than 62 to me”
Gumby1234 - I believe PCGS has never graded an 1893-CC $20 higher than an MS63 so I am not surprised this coin ended up at MS62PL. PCGS is “as tough as nails” with their grading which is what makes their coins so darn desirable in the marketplace.
Also, I believe there had never been a single “CC” $20 Gold across the entire Ty 1-Ty 3 series to ever receive a PL designation from PCGS at the time I submitted this coin for the PL designation last week (there was no coin # for an 1893-CC $20 PL for me to use in the PCGS system when we wrote up the coin for submission). But, when it earned the PL designation, the PCGS “pop” went to “2” on this date and grade. So, there must have been a second coin in the PCGS system that was not completed when we checked for the coin number.
Wondercoin.
Now what is not to like on a PL descriptor especially on some Kennedys?
Tease my heart and show them.
DMPLS also appreciated.
Thanks
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
WOW! What a beauty ☺️ her curls are so perfect ….. could easily be 64 on MS
Paradisefound- the curls are mesmerizing; I agree. And, PCGS has made the grade of MS62 worth falling in love with again!!
Thank you everyone for the kind words on this special coin!
I will organize my modern PL collection a little better to be in a position to post pics of those coins as well.
Wondercoin
Wow, that is an amazing NEWP!
Nice coin!
I couldn't stop looking at my semi-PL $20 lib I can't imagine how amazing this one is in hand, awesome coin.
wondercoin's use of "cool" in the title may be the most understated use of any word in history.
Tim
Very Nice!
Question, is it possible this coin was struck with dies that were originally used to strike proof coins and when the strike resulted in something not to standard for a proof coin was used to strike business strike coins? That coin looks extremely nice for a coin struck with even new business strike dies.
Can anyone say Branch Mint Proof??
I think the branch mint dies were shipped from Philly, so it’s possible a used set of Proof dies were sent to Carson City. But that almost looks like the planchet was polished too. Maybe a presentation piece was made for someone?
Wow, that certainly is a wonder coin!
I made a run and got a few PL double eagles back in the early 2000s when low level UNCs were about 500$. I sold them all to buy other coins to include my fav to forum member @Bloodman who had an amazing set. I never saw a CC that deep.
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What a coin!
Swwwoooooonnnn!
Wow!! That is a gorgeous piece!!
Wow! That is a beautiful piece. Really underselling it as just "cool".
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Wow! That’s a terrific looking coin. Congrats!
Great looking CC double eagle!
NGC started designating deserving coins as prooflike in 2003, while PCGS started in 2019. Currently there are 10 '93-CCs prooflike $20s in all grades in the NGC population census report. There are 2 at MS62 at NGC, perhaps the other coin at PCGS was one of these previously graded PL coins.
What a great coin!!
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I cannot see anything in the photos that indicate a 62. While I would like to buy it for a 62 price, it looks like a 64.
I assume this is going to CAC.
dhikewhitney: I believe the coin is truly a “deep” prooflike, but I confirmed 100% yesterday that PCGS, at this time, does not award “DPL” to any classic gold coins - regardless of whether the coin is deserving of that designation or not. DPL is not a designation choice for the PCGS graders of Classic Gold (as say, Morgan Dollars where PCGS graders can select “DMPL” for those coins). Too bad for that, as I believe this CC gold coin is a worthy candidate for the DPL designation.
I was also told that “superstar” photographer “Phil” will likely be the one snapping the TrueView pictures for PCGS at the San Diego PCGS event in a few weeks. So, I gave back the coin yesterday to PCGS for the purpose of resubmission and TrueView photography at that Show. They told me “a day later” the serial number would be removed as the coin was entered in the system for that show grading. I now see the serial number is inoperative. So, no CAC for now. Next stop-SAN DIEGO!
Wondercoin
Wow, wow and triple wow.... @wondercoin... I love gold coins, and I love CC coins... and PL gold CC coins are amazing. That is a beautiful coin. Cheers, RickO
I am very curious as to how this looks in hand. I write this mainly because the coin looks fairly clean for the grade and I would expect the mirrors to highlight surface imperfections.
Regardless... it is a wonderful coin. Congrats
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Coinkat. I agree with you. Will you by chance be in San Diego at the PCGS event? I could probably arrange to show you the coin towards the end of the show as I am fairly confident PCGS will be finished with the coin at that time.
Wondercoin
Bloodman. That is an excellent point. And, I agree with you.
Wondercoin
I am looking for details of this event as I'd love to attend.
is there a link with specific information (when, where...)
peacockcoins
‘’I think the branch mint dies were shipped from Philly, so it’s possible a used set of Proof dies were sent to Carson City. But that almost looks like the planchet was polished too. Maybe a presentation piece was made for someone?’’
Pmh1nic/ Walkerguy21d- And, if there ever was going to be a time the CC Mint would prepare a presentation piece it would be in 1893! A message I prepared to accompany this coin in my bank vault…
‘’The Carson City Mint was established by Congress on March 3, 1863 to service the coinage needs brought about by the Comstock Lode, the largest silver strike in U.S. history. The Mint had political obstacles since its opening in 1870, but its time had finally run out in 1893. The nearby Comstock Lode had also mostly “dried up” by that time. Grover Cleveland put a halt to Carson City coinage in 1885 when he first became President. Production at the Mint resumed under Harrison in 1889, but after Cleveland returned to the White House in 1893, he shut down the presses for the second and final time.
The Carson City Mint's final gold double eagle issue in 1893 had a mintage of just 18,402 pieces making it an absolute scarcity in terms of mintage. The final 1893 limited production run of this historic gold issue from probably the nation's most “romanticized” and popular coinage facility is a coin, in any grade, worth collecting by serious US coin collectors. For those collectors seeking a Mint State example, it was estimated in 2020, by Rusty Goe, that approximately only 290 to 350 examples exist today. Of that amount, only about 5% even achieve a “Choice Uncirculated” quality grade and PCGS has never graded a single example of this date above Choice Uncirculated MS63 in its roughly 36 year existence (NGC has seen just one MS64 coin) (through July, 2022). Perhaps even more exciting, only about 1/10 of 1% of the entire original mintage still exists in true Mint State “prooflike” grade.
Hence, this coin is currently the centerpiece of my U.S. “prooflike” collection I stated collecting forty years ago in around 1982.’’
Wondercoin
Pat- Here is something I found on the PCGS homepage…
PCGS Members Only Show
Wednesday, September 7 to Friday, September 9, 2022
Omni Hotel & Resort
675 L St
San Diego, California 92101
Directions
ON-SITE GRADING
REGENCY AUCTION
On-site Coin Grading will be Offered!
On-Site Banknote Grading for Express Service Level and Above Available!
On-site show submissions will be accepted through Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 5:00 PM.
Show submissions mailed to the office must be post marked by Thursday, September 8, 2022.
PCGS Representatives will be able to answer questions, accept submissions (including limited Bulk), and provide specific hours for submission cutoff times.
24 hour turnaround is currently not available.
Click here for hotel reservations
Click here for show details.
Wondercoin
Sweet!
Thanks for the info. I have a few coins I'd like to drop off and enjoy the event's ambiance.
peacockcoins
Pat. I will be out of the country until the first week of October. Otherwise, of course, I would have already written you about meeting at the show. But, I am asking my son Justin (monstercoinmart on eBay) and my daughter Lauren (who is about to launch “Captivating Coin” on eBay) if either, or both of them, will be attending this fun event in San Diego.
Wondercoin
Wow . . . .deep end of the pool . . .
Drunner
Cert doesn't show up. is it out for regrade?
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
alaura22- see my San Diego posting above.
Wondercoin
Got it
Thanks
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
‘’I'd love to see Mitch's PL 1970-D Kennedies too!’’
Ok Pat. Let’s look at one Justin just took a stab at picturing.
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Best I know, Heritage only featured a PCGS Deep Prooflike Gem Quality 1970-D Kennedy Half Dollar one time in their decades and decades of auctioning coins. And I was fortunate enough to win it out of their auction (pictured above). I may resubmit it to PCGS for the DPL designation now that I believe they award that designation to these Kennedy Half Dollars. But, DPL is unfortunately not a designation currently awarded to classic gold coins (best is PL) so I am told.
Wondercoin
Beautiful
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