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Greatest Card Ever Auctioned - The Finest Rosen Mantle

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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Came across this Mantle in my Instagram suggestions and thought to share it here. That centering is gorgeous.

    I saw it on IG as well and was able to strike a deal to acquire it. Broke the record for a 1 but my research indicates that there are only about 20 Mantles centered that well in all grades. So hadda have it.

    I saw your post in the lowest graded/eye appel candy thread but hadn't checked to see if it was the same card. Congrats on a great pickup!

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That card is awesome. Just beautiful. Congratulations.

  • GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what the PSA 10 Clemente would fetch now. I believe EOMint bought it for 500k many years ago.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @DM23HOF said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Came across this Mantle in my Instagram suggestions and thought to share it here. That centering is gorgeous.

    I saw it on IG as well and was able to strike a deal to acquire it. Broke the record for a 1 but my research indicates that there are only about 20 Mantles centered that well in all grades. So hadda have it.

    I saw your post in the lowest graded/eye appel candy thread but hadn't checked to see if it was the same card. Congrats on a great pickup!

    Thanks, fellas. That 1 is so nice in hand it is giving me a real fun dilemma with my 4.5.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:
    Here is mine— I am over the moon about that 9.5, yet still not sure I'd ever wanna pay an extra 10 million for corners ;)

    Matty, I’d forgotten how beautiful yours is. Simply stupendous card!

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  • conrad99conrad99 Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the discussion, guys. Illuminating and informative.

    As a non-collector, I had wondered why it was called "Rosen Find" and this WSJ article cleared that up for me. Obviously the article is written for laymen so it won't be news to any of you.

    The discovery of the card sold Sunday goes to a pioneer in the sports memorabilia industry, a man named Alan Rosen, who marketed himself as “Mr. Mint.”

    Mr. Rosen was contacted in the late 1980s by a man in Boston who claimed his father had been a delivery driver for Topps and had kept a case of baseball cards that were meant to be destroyed, Heritage Auctions said.

    He drove to Boston and struck a deal for the memorabilia, known to collectors as the “Rosen Find.” It included multiple number 311 Mickey Mantle cards, one of which Mr. Rosen sold in 1995 to Mr. Giordano.

    One thing I still wonder about: how did the inheritor of the cards know about Mr Rosen? In those pre-internet days I mean. Also is Rob Rosen of HA a relation of Alan Rosen?

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @conrad99 said:
    Thanks for the discussion, guys. Illuminating and informative.

    As a non-collector, I had wondered why it was called "Rosen Find" and this WSJ article cleared that up for me. Obviously the article is written for laymen so it won't be news to any of you.

    The discovery of the card sold Sunday goes to a pioneer in the sports memorabilia industry, a man named Alan Rosen, who marketed himself as “Mr. Mint.”

    Mr. Rosen was contacted in the late 1980s by a man in Boston who claimed his father had been a delivery driver for Topps and had kept a case of baseball cards that were meant to be destroyed, Heritage Auctions said.

    He drove to Boston and struck a deal for the memorabilia, known to collectors as the “Rosen Find.” It included multiple number 311 Mickey Mantle cards, one of which Mr. Rosen sold in 1995 to Mr. Giordano.

    One thing I still wonder about: how did the inheritor of the cards know about Mr Rosen? In those pre-internet days I mean. Also is Rob Rosen of HA a relation of Alan Rosen?

    https://archive.ph/JVEtf
    https://archive.ph/BmAaM

    Mr Mint Rosen advertisements were ubiquitous in hobby publications throughout the 80s and 90s; you could not buy a price guide, book or mag and not see his ads and often his smiling face and fistfuls of cash offered. He was responsible for some very important finds in addition to the Topps hoard that made him famous and unearthed some incredible Mantle’s, Matthews, Willie’s and Jackie’s.

    I think it’s fair to say he had a great eye for quality cards and what could be nicely described as a questionable persona or personality; I suppose only those that knew him best knew which was which. I know he stood out at shows by carrying on like a WWF heel quite a bit but, again, it may have all been an act to draw attention and to that end, he was successful and he certainly made a really memorable and profitable career out of selling baseball cards.

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  • conrad99conrad99 Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    Thanks very much. I learn something new every day.

    The Crazy Eddie of card collecting then?!

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @conrad99 said:
    Thanks very much. I learn something new every day.

    The Crazy Eddie of card collecting then?!

    Very deep call on Crazy Eddie. And very accurate.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:

    @DM23HOF said:
    Here is mine— I am over the moon about that 9.5, yet still not sure I'd ever wanna pay an extra 10 million for corners ;)

    Matty, I’d forgotten how beautiful yours is. Simply stupendous card!

    Thanks very much, sir. I am wringing my hands though now about whether to keep two, sell one, champagne problem yet gotta decide eventually lol.

  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 472 ✭✭✭

    Incredible price and great for the hobby. The cards posted by board members in this thread are gorgeous too.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:

    @Centauri said:
    That is a spectacular 1. Probably some back damage, but who cares!

    I own it. No back damage.

    So where is the pinhole hiding? Otherwise I don't understand the grade.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No pinhole, just several wrinkles that show up in the right light/angle. And the corners are worn. It truly would not look out of place in a 1.5 or 2 holder. Things get so subjective in the low grades, trying to parse a 1 from a 2, etc. I think that little 1 may be the "pound for pound" champ LOL!

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:
    No pinhole, just several wrinkles that show up in the right light/angle. And the corners are worn. It truly would not look out of place in a 1.5 or 2 holder. Things get so subjective in the low grades, trying to parse a 1 from a 2, etc. I think that little 1 may be the "pound for pound" champ LOL!

    They’re truly both exceptional examples for their given grade.

    However, as someone with absolutely no say whatsoever in the matter, I really don’t think you should give up the 4.5 unless you are leaving the hobby - for good - at the risk of ending up looking like some Gollum type creature sitting at Farrell’s 30 years from now, muttering over whiskey and precious. 😂

    There’s a part of me that wonders if, when you’re not holding it in your hands, it just floats in mid air…

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  • balco758balco758 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd not give up either the 1 or the 4.5. The latest sale has bumped up both of them!

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Came across this Mantle in my Instagram suggestions and thought to share it here. That centering is gorgeous.

    I saw it on IG as well and was able to strike a deal to acquire it. Broke the record for a 1 but my research indicates that there are only about 20 Mantles centered that well in all grades. So hadda have it.

    Was there a pinhole or already submitted for review? xD

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The PR1 from the PSA website

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  • ejohnejohn Posts: 42 ✭✭

    The Rosen find is valued at more than the GDP of 17 countries.

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:

    @conrad99 said:
    Thanks very much. I learn something new every day.

    The Crazy Eddie of card collecting then?!

    Very deep call on Crazy Eddie. And very accurate.

    OMG Crazy Eddie, thank you!

    I read a story in the 80's that Mr. Mint would travel via car across the country, and I recall more specifically the Midwest. He would stop at as many homes as possible and ask about their Son's card collections and purchase many of them for cash on the spot.

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  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    @Cakes said:

    @DM23HOF said:

    @conrad99 said:
    Thanks very much. I learn something new every day.

    The Crazy Eddie of card collecting then?!

    Very deep call on Crazy Eddie. And very accurate.

    OMG Crazy Eddie, thank you!

    I read a story in the 80's that Mr. Mint would travel via car across the country, and I recall more specifically the Midwest. He would stop at as many homes as possible and ask about their Son's card collections and purchase many of them for cash on the spot.

    Wish we had a TV show like this filmed back in the 80's so we can see those finds. That would have been an awesome history to have saved for other collectors to see now.

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