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GTG & Overton: 1827 Bust Half

Hello Bust Enthusiasts
Fresh from PCGS... Guess the Grade, and for a challenge Guess the Overton.
Caught in the wild, photos are raw before submission.

Photography setup: Sony a6000 (macro settings), 10mm Macro Extension Tube, & a simple Axial Lighting setup (absolutely zero digital editing).

(Hint, Square Base 2)

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  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome! I don't know the series very well so I'll pass on the grading and attribution but I do know that it is a very nice coin!!

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  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

  • MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 348 ✭✭✭

    AU53

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au53
    Overton 137 Square Base 2

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF and agree O137. Too easy on the attribution. 😉

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum. Nice coin. I'm traveling or I would dive into Overton.
    Jim


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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Welcome to the forum. Nice coin. I'm traveling or I would dive into Overton.
    Jim

    Jim
    You don't know them by heart? :)

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Welcome to the forum. Nice coin. I'm traveling or I would dive into Overton.
    Jim

    Jim
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    Jim


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  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin! I guess 45?

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heck of a first post! Welcome to the board :)

    As others have commented, O-137 (of course), which for those who aren't paying close attention is an R6- Die Marriage

    My gut says VF35 ... probably has just a touch more steel/light bronze tone than it appears


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  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow incredibly tough die marriage for that variety. Candidate variety to add to the redbook set. I would venture XF45. XF40 OBV with possible AU50 REV. would need to see in hand to be sure. There is one mint state O-137 that does exist. Congratulations to the new owner!

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess 50

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  • Thanks for playing! This CBH is currently in the hands of GreatCollections. Auctions ends this time tomorrow (Sunday).

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  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sold for $6468

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2022 6:57PM

    @GoBust said:
    Sold for $6468

    Seems like a good sellers price to me, did it come close to the expected sale price?

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought that was strong money until I looked it up. Seems like the sale price was a little soft based on past results: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1827-50c-overton-137-square-base-2/39736

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Flychance ... Welcome aboard. Late to the game, but I had guessed XF45.... Cheers, RickO

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WilliamF said:

    @GoBust said:
    Sold for $6468

    Seems like a good sellers price to me, did it come close to the expected sale price?

    With so few past sales and many of them older, low population and a variety it is usually tricky to judge price.
    The most recent sale I see on CF was at HA for a 45 with a CAC in Dec 2021 for $7800.

    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/item/1827-50c-overton-137-square-base-2/39736/1711786911024178633

    In the CF listing the XF40 that sold in Jan 2015 for 11K at HA (this was a pcgs but not attributed on the holder as O137 but rather noted in the auction title and description) appears to be the same coin that later sold in Aug 2015 at SD for 9K.

    The pcgs price guide of XF40 $12,500 and XF45 $13,500 would appear to be high compared to these limited results. The price history indicates they have not been adjusted for many years (2018 and went slightly up, maybe a dealer sale?).

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  • The latest auction back in December 2021 was a good indicator of last nights final hammer. Below, I've attached the most recent Auction values for the O-137.

    I've had a few months to consider the value. One advantage, is that this is a NEW example, previously unseen. Several of the auctions below are 'recycled' or duplicate sales of the same coin at different dates/auctions. What I considered a key disadvantage to this example is the overall eye-appeal of the CBH. Something the GC photos (maybe) overhighlighted. The photo that starts this thread are unedited (yet under favorable conditions), The TrueView is probably the most accurate representation. Regardless, this particular CBH lacked the skin, tone, depth that Bust Enthusiasts value in the series.

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