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1799 Bust Dollar Will it straight grade?

2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭



Given yesterday’s discussion of the Flowing Hair dollar G X G ….i am interested to know if this will straight grade? If so, an estimate of grade please?

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regrettably, it will probably get a details grade for the graffiti below the L of LIBERTY.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2022 11:33AM

    Strong no. Looks like 4 places on the obv. have been smoothed. They didn't quite get rid of what they were trying to remove on the left side.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The green look bothers me.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think there are multiple possible reasons why it wouldn’t.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aside from the mark below the L in Liberty, it has the unnatural look of a cleaned and retoned coin, so no. I don't think it
    will grade.

    Tom

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No because of all the reasons previously cited. At least it's not a counterfeit.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree.
    This type of picture I wonder if a white silver Roosevelt dime was next to it in the picture what would it look like. I say this because it has such an unnatural / unusual look that I think could some of this be in the photo.

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of crappy Bust $ end up in holders. Might as well try

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No chance.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, the graffiti etc. will prevent that, but it is authentic, so that would be the main value of a slab. Cheers, RickO

  • raysrays Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. The surfaces appear altered.

  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope, graffiti. Personally if I had this coin I would keep it raw, but that's just me. Main value of sending it in would be to prove authenticity.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t think that this piece would get a straight grade, but oddly enough, I have seen Bust Dollars with very light graffiti on the obverse that got a straight. The piece in question looked like an AU but was graded EF-45. One dealer suggested that it had been net graded which indicated that the grader saw and did not view it bad enough to give it a “details” grade.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I received that coin, sight-unseen in a straight-grade holder I'd be quite unhappy.

  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭✭

    Based on the FH dollar with the GxG, this one might have a chance.

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69 Yes, my post was a bit tongue in cheek! After seeing the Flowing hair dollar with graffiti yesterday, i was kinda shocked that it had straight graded…i know if i submitted this. ion what the result would be!

  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    @pcgs69 Yes, my post was a bit tongue in cheek! After seeing the Flowing hair dollar with graffiti yesterday, i was kinda shocked that it had straight graded…i know if i submitted this. ion what the result would be!

    Same here! I’m sure if i submitted that FH dollar it would come back “tooled, cleaned, graffiti, whizzed, damaged, filed rims, questionable authenticity, environmental damage”

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