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1948 Gold CAC Washington Quarter Brings Incredible Price At G.C. Tonight. What Are Your Thoughts

Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
edited June 20, 2022 3:31AM in U.S. Coin Forum

So this 1948 Gold Quarter sold for $325 tonight even though it’s PCGS price guide is only $26 in MS 65. All gold labels sold strong but mostly 2-4 times price guide, except this quarter. Is this a special circumstance? What do you think?

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  • RelaxnRelaxn Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC mania...
    Mix gold CAC with rattler and you get some mania

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just like many of the other examples you've posted, this is a holder premium.

    Here's an equation:
    PCGS Rattler + Gold CAC = BIG MONEY

    There's also a bit of code involved -

    IF coin is toned,
    and if toning is attractive,
    then BIGGER MONEY.

    IF coin is not toned,
    or IF coin is toned unattractively,
    NO CHANGE, so BIG MONEY.

    My Javascript is really rusty :smile:. Hope this helps in the future.

    Coin Photographer.

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2022 7:42PM

    @FlyingAl said:
    Just like many of the other examples you've posted, this is a holder premium.

    Here's an equation:
    PCGS Rattler + Gold CAC = BIG MONEY

    There's also a bit of code involved -

    IF coin is toned,
    and if toning is attractive,
    then BIGGER MONEY.

    IF coin is not toned,
    or IF coin is toned unattractively,
    NO CHANGE, so BIG MONEY.

    My Javascript is really rusty :smile:. Hope this helps in the future.

    Al would an older PCGS holder say 10-20 years back but not a OGH or Rattler plus Gold Label and great eye appeal still equal Bigger or Big Money?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that @Relaxn hit it on the head. Regardless, the fold above "price guide" holds far less meaning when the published value of the coin is low.

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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2022 5:47AM

    Irrational exuberance.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold CAC coins are a collectible by themselves regardless of the host coin. The toning is original but unattractive. I don’t understand it.

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  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    A genuine "1948 Gold Washington Quarter" would bring a lot more than $325. For gosh sakes, it's a CAC gold-stickered 1948 Washington quarter, not a 1948 Gold Washington Quarter.

    Will correct. Figured people knew what it is anyway

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy the coin, not the sticker.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are label collectors, holder collectors, sticker collectors, tarnish collectors - and even coin collectors. Each have their focus, preference and personal taste. That coin, to me, is twenty five cents.... Nothing more. Cheers, RickO

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least two bidders wanted it. Really wanted it.

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2022 9:04AM

    @Joey29 said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    Just like many of the other examples you've posted, this is a holder premium.

    Here's an equation:
    PCGS Rattler + Gold CAC = BIG MONEY

    There's also a bit of code involved -

    IF coin is toned,
    and if toning is attractive,
    then BIGGER MONEY.

    IF coin is not toned,
    or IF coin is toned unattractively,
    NO CHANGE, so BIG MONEY.

    My Javascript is really rusty :smile:. Hope this helps in the future.

    Al would an older PCGS holder say 10-20 years back but not a OGH or Rattler plus Gold Label and great eye appeal still equal Bigger or Big Money?

    The premium would be there, just not as much. Maybe cut it in half? I'm not quite sure as I'm not a holder guy. You might be able to tell by looking at past sales, but I'm not gonna do that research for you, as you'd need a lot of examples. I would assume that the premium for the holder doesn't exist, and it's a gold CAC premium in this scenario.

    Coin Photographer.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would hope it looks charming in hand and perhaps offers MS66 surfaces.

    peacockcoins

  • rokkyrokky Posts: 308 ✭✭✭✭

    Eeewh, not for me

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The beauty of auctions: Only takes two bidders.

    Dave

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,357 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rubicon @Joey29

    Sometimes auction outcomes aren’t rational. This isn’t a new phenomenon.

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    26 bids All it takes is two committed to the coin to drive it up before things to get out of hand.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2022 3:56AM

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    Interesting as it seems the coin quality itself has a very little factor in the selling price

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    Interesting as it seems the coin quality itself has a very little factor in the selling price. I think collectors are probably making some type of sets of Gold CAC coins

  • RelaxnRelaxn Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    Interesting as it seems the coin quality itself has a very little factor in the selling price. I think collectors are probably making some type of sets of Gold CAC coins

    That is an interesting statement. The coin is in a TPG holder and has a GOLD CAC does that not automatically imply some kind of quality?
    Gold CAC labeled couns are interesting, for me, as it helps me learn what CAC is looking for when the pass or gold label coins.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A likely scenario I can imagine is someone working on a very specific set, maybe only rattler Washingtons, or only gold CAC Washingtons, or only rattlers with gold CAC or any CAC.

    Or maybe that guy from years ago is back buying any gold CAC at any price.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Relaxn said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    Interesting as it seems the coin quality itself has a very little factor in the selling price. I think collectors are probably making some type of sets of Gold CAC coins

    That is an interesting statement. The coin is in a TPG holder and has a GOLD CAC does that not automatically imply some kind of quality?
    Gold CAC labeled couns are interesting, for me, as it helps me learn what CAC is looking for when the pass or gold label coins.

    I assume by "coin quality" he meant "coin eye appeal". Which I agree, this doesn't look like a very attractive coin, but it is probably a high quality coin.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @Relaxn said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    This is the new normal on gold CAC. $300ish floor.

    Any holder or only rattler and OGH

    Any gold CAC should get at least $250 from what I've seen lately. Add any old holder and $300 is the minimum.

    Interesting as it seems the coin quality itself has a very little factor in the selling price. I think collectors are probably making some type of sets of Gold CAC coins

    That is an interesting statement. The coin is in a TPG holder and has a GOLD CAC does that not automatically imply some kind of quality?
    Gold CAC labeled couns are interesting, for me, as it helps me learn what CAC is looking for when the pass or gold label coins.

    Sorry meant eye appealing

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Relaxn said:
    CAC mania...
    Mix gold CAC with rattler and you get some mania

    I think they need to start putting some Lithium in those gold stickers.

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