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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    Only if we are headed for a deep recession, and that does not appear to be in the picture.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OPA said:

    @derryb said:
    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    Only if we are headed for a deep recession, and that does not appear to be in the picture.

    you're in the wrong art gallery

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @OPA said:

    @derryb said:
    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    Only if we are headed for a deep recession, and that does not appear to be in the picture.

    you're in the wrong art gallery

    Do you ever root for anything good to happen in America? Has the glass in your world ever been at least half full? Or is it just 24/7/365 Dr. Doom?

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2022 3:43PM

    hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

    the thing about recessions - the way they are measured you do not know they are here until they have been here, We're here.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • Hello,

    I won't guess about recession or not.

    BUT I think the jobs number showed our domestic US economy is stronger than the equity markets have priced in.

    Rate increases will continue until inflation improves
    (to tangentially paraphrase the quote attributed to Duke Wellington "Floggings will continue until morale improves.")

    The time lag between Federal rate increases and when they affect the US/global economy will make for a bumpy economy. Keep your hands strong.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @aj2525rr said:

    BUT I think the jobs number showed our domestic US economy is stronger than the equity markets have priced in.

    The economy added a higher than expected 372,000 jobs in June. Revisions subtracted 74,000 from previous reports. Employment declined by 315,000.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:

    @OPA said:

    @derryb said:
    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    Only if we are headed for a deep recession, and that does not appear to be in the picture.

    you're in the wrong art gallery

    Do you ever root for anything good to happen in America? Has the glass in your world ever been at least half full? Or is it just 24/7/365 Dr. Doom?

    Sitting on the sidelines "rooting" for something to happen won't change the outcome.
    The democratic way to affect change is to point out the flaws in the system.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2022 10:19AM

    @dcarr said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:

    @OPA said:

    @derryb said:
    rates won't rise much longer. By year end FED will retreat.

    Only if we are headed for a deep recession, and that does not appear to be in the picture.

    you're in the wrong art gallery

    Do you ever root for anything good to happen in America? Has the glass in your world ever been at least half full? Or is it just 24/7/365 Dr. Doom?

    Sitting on the sidelines "rooting" for something to happen won't change the outcome.
    The democratic way to affect change is to point out the flaws in the system.

    No. Pointing is what Karen's do. And there's several Karens on this forum.

    Everyone knows the flaws, but none of these Karen's ever proposed a fix or remedy. The Democratic way is to fix it if it's broken, not stand in a circle complaining.

    Why dont these Karen's ever propose a fix? They just hype rhetoric. Is that all they know? Must be, otherwise they would try to educate and effect change.

    Cheerleaders sit on the sidelines and root for something to happen. These whiners are just cheerleaders. Blitz is dead on accurate

    These whiner Karen's should try to be players, rather than cheerleaders. But no, they are afraid to get hit. They cry that they are under attack. Get in the game Karen!!!

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone knows the flaws, but none of these Karen's ever proposed a fix or remedy. The Democratic way is to fix it if it's broken, not stand in a circle complaining.

    Why dont these Karen's ever propose a fix? They just hype rhetoric. Is that all they know? Must be, otherwise they would try to educate and effect change.

    Well then, for starters - what s your proposed solution to the corruption in DC?

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Up here in God's country we could care less about the alleged corruption in last year's DC.

    What I would like to know is how do you propose we stop the current bleeding from ever orifice out our body cavities as current PM "bag holders?" LOL Stack On!! "Premiums are great™!"

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Okay.

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Push come to shove, The Fed will protect the Stock Market over the economy and inflation because political donations come from those with the most interest in the markets.

    thefinn
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2022 3:03AM

    @jmski52 said:
    Everyone knows the flaws, but none of these Karen's ever proposed a fix or remedy. The Democratic way is to fix it if it's broken, not stand in a circle complaining.

    Why dont these Karen's ever propose a fix? They just hype rhetoric. Is that all they know? Must be, otherwise they would try to educate and effect change.

    Well then, for starters - what s your proposed solution to the corruption in DC?

    Call out those who misrepresent and distort fact. Call out those who create "alternative facts". Call out those who disseminate mis/disinformation. Bad policy does not destroy a nation, but ideology based on lies does.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Up here in God's country we could care less about the alleged corruption in last year's DC.

    Where is this "God's country" that you speak of? What do you mean when you say "alleged"? Most of us care and we will be voting this November. :#

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,127 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:

    Yup....waiting for you to fall into the latter group.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy !

  • ADGADG Posts: 438 ✭✭✭

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    Senator John Danforth
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  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All this energy, wow!
    Join the convention of states

    Article 5 works

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $1300 gold before it stops. Lookout sell now, buy back at $1300. It's the only way we can score

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Inflation like wages is a lagging indicator (sans Union contracts) so, sell now, reap the purchase harvest later. Kinda like shorting the market.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Inflation does not lag. It occurs the moment the price tag is replaced.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

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