@2dueces said:
2 team teaser for 25
Raiders-1
Jets +5
Raiders-7 for 25
Posting late but got it in
Looks like both worked out. 👍👍 Jets are on a 4 game win streak. 🤮
49ers killed what would have been a nice day. Best NFC defense going into the game. I guess that title moves to Dallas for the time being
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The Dallas defense is VERY good. I don't feel comfortable going out on a limb often to say things like this, but I know much more about the Boys than I do any other team. And I expect this defense to get better.
+10
Swami isn’t much of a Swami this year. So hard to bet dogs every week but dogs have been covering at a high rate and upsets have been the norm.
Saints +3 for 25
2 team teaser for 50
Bills under 52
Bills -5
Rams +3 for 50
Seahawks +2 for 25
Vikings -3 for 50
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
After some personal issues Swami appears again. No it wasn’t the Bills losing, I’ve resigned myself to admit the franchise is snake bitten so no worries. Anyways. I’m looking for a bounce back game and week.
For the first time this year Swami is in the red but not for long.
-15
2 team teaser for 100
Bills-1
Colts +12.5
Colts under 46 for 50
Bills -7 for 50
Washington -2.5 for 100.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+285
I’m slowing the roll a bit for thanksgiving
Bills ran for 180 yards and it wasn’t Josh Allens legs. The Bills might cover most of 54.5 themselves but if they are determined to get a run game for the playoffs under is a very good play.
Vikings got blown out last week and it’s insane to bet against a good team after that embarrassing game but…
Buffalo under 54.5 for 50
T
2 team teaser for 50
Bills-1.5
Patriots +8.5
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+385
Really like the under 36 in the Broncos game but so does the whole betting world so hard pass. Not only are the Saints pulling people from the stands with heir laundry list of injuries I suspect the rest of the team is already on the bus home.
San Francisco-9 for 100
Washington-4 for 50
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
DISCLAIMER FOR BASEBAL21 In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
I really should have lost both Washington and San Francisco bets last week but instead of bad beats my luck held out.
If Rodgers plays, how can you not take the Packers this weekend?
I think the Eagles, Dolphins and Jets come back to earth this week. Thoughts?
I’m not touching Buffalo-New England even though the Bills scored 80 points and zero punts the last 2 games. I think Allen’s elbow has affected his accuracy and hopefully he is healthy for the final push.
My weekend bets to follow
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Let’s look at my NFL futures through week 12.
Super Bowl Odds
Bills +600 for $100
Raiders +4000 for $100
NY Jets over 5.5 for $250. Win
Broncos under 10 for $250 Win
Bengals under 10 for $200
Bills over 11.5 for $200
Patriots under 8.5 for $100
Cardinals under 10 for $100 Win
Cowboys under 10.5 for $100
Rams over 10.5 for $100 Loss
Eagles over 8 for $100 Win
Raiders over 8.5 for $100
Panthers over 6 for $100
As of 11/27
+600
Rams division $125 to win $100
All the wins and losses are secure.
Sweating
New England
Cincinnati
Panthers
The rest look like losses except the Bills but I will turn a profit again.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Deuces at first glance I like the dolphins +4 against the niners.
San Fran didn’t stop the kc offense and I don’t think they stop Miami either plus their offense only scoring 13 points against no.
DISCLAIMER FOR BASEBAL21 In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
So Swami is on an 11-0 run since taking a few weeks of before thanksgiving.
I used to play high stakes blackjack. $100 minimum. I could walk into the horseshoe, open a table just for me, rope it off and play one on one with the dealer. That way no one else could screw up a run. I once lost 17 hands in a row. I thought that was impossible but just like flipping a coin, the odds never change no matter how many times it comes up heads in a row. Perfect blackjack the dealer has a 52-48% advantage because you can’t see his hole cards.
My system for winning was always increase my bet when winning 100-150-225-275-400-500-750-1000-1500-2000-3000.
Win 10 hands in a row at any given time cash out and go home. Lose a hand and go back to 100. Always play with the casinos money.
Anyways here’s my Sunday early wager.
+575
Minnesota-3 for 100
2 team teaser for 50
Minnesota +3
Titans +10.5
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces at the end of that Minny game you had 16 and the dealer was showing an ace. you took a hit..........a 2. dealer then turned over a 5, then a king, then a jack.
@galaxy27 said: @2dueces at the end of that Minny game you had 16 and the dealer was showing an ace. you took a hit..........a 2. dealer then turned over a 5, then a king, then a jack.
congrats man, sorry Tennessee let us down
Yeah they were trash today. Still a $45 profit but breaks the streak.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+620
The streak of consecutive wins came to an end but the winning weeks are still alive. Tennessee is probably the worst 7-5 team I’ve ever seen.
How do you not take Tom Terrific tonight with the playoffs on the line and only -3?
Tampa Bay-3 for 50
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces said:
+620
The streak of consecutive wins came to an end but the winning weeks are still alive. Tennessee is probably the worst 7-5 team I’ve ever seen.
How do you not take Tom Terrific tonight with the playoffs on the line and only -3?
Tampa Bay-3 for 50
......
I don't comment a lot on this thread. But I do enjoy it and keep up.
@2dueces you ask "how do you not" take Brady tonight with the playoffs on the line... He has to be thinking about the losing record.
Game of week. Lock of the year. Bills avenge the loss (5 defensive starters out) With Poyer and White’s return Bills are on a 3 game winning streak. Game is over at halftime.
Bills -10 for 200
2 team teaser for 50
Ravens +8
Under 42.5
2 team teaser for 50
Ravens under 42.5
Minnesota +8
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+610
So after careful consideration last night I didn’t put in the bets above. Something spooked me about Minnesota. Lions are 9-2 ATS last 11 home games. I’m going to take a more traditional approach today.
Eagles have waxed the Giants by +124 last how many games?
Tickets entered
Bills -9.5 for 50
Eagles-7 for 50
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces said:
+610
So after careful consideration last night I didn’t put in the bets above. Something spooked me about Minnesota. Lions are 9-2 ATS last 11 home games. I’m going to take a more traditional approach today.
Eagles have waxed the Giants by +124 last how many games?
Tickets entered
Bills -9.5 for 50
Eagles-7 for 50
I don't know how you stayed away from Minny, you must have a looking into the future glass
@2dueces said:
+610
So after careful consideration last night I didn’t put in the bets above. Something spooked me about Minnesota. Lions are 9-2 ATS last 11 home games. I’m going to take a more traditional approach today.
Eagles have waxed the Giants by +124 last how many games?
Tickets entered
Bills -9.5 for 50
Eagles-7 for 50
I don't know how you stayed away from Minny, you must have a looking into the future glass
The weather had a lot to do in Buffalo. It was predicted snow flurries but they didn’t happen until after halftime or I would have passed on the game all together.
Detroit started 1-6 and had a .01% to make the playoffs. Now 6-7 their chances are 28%. Not great but damn Campbell has them playing like they believe. Maybe McVay isn’t the offensive juggernaut we believe. Jarod Goff is a legitimate NFL QB.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think I’m just going to throw a bunch of Hundo’s at the Bills moneyline
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+655
Bills vs Dolphins in January 2021. Bills had clinched a playoff spot and rested starters 2nd half. Dolphins fighting for their playoff lives. Final score 56-26. Bills 5-0 vs Dolphins at home by an average of 20 points. Dolphins in 30 degree weather or less lose by average of 18 points.
Harbaugh record vs Browns 28-5
Bills -7 for 250
Ravens +3 for 100
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@perkdog said:
Carolina really screwed me last night by beating Seattle
I'm pissed
Seems like ex Jets QB’s are having a bit of a resurgence. Darnold and Smith while their #2 draft choice was inactive, coaches decision and only activated because White took a terrific beating in Buffalo.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces said:
+655
Bills vs Dolphins in January 2021. Bills had clinched a playoff spot and rested starters 2nd half. Dolphins fighting for their playoff lives. Final score 56-26. Bills 5-0 vs Dolphins at home by an average of 20 points. Dolphins in 30 degree weather or less lose by average of 18 points.
Harbaugh record vs Browns 28-5
Bills -7 for 250
Ravens +3 for 100
Bills is the play but I like Cleveland over Baltimore
@2dueces said:
+655
Bills vs Dolphins in January 2021. Bills had clinched a playoff spot and rested starters 2nd half. Dolphins fighting for their playoff lives. Final score 56-26. Bills 5-0 vs Dolphins at home by an average of 20 points. Dolphins in 30 degree weather or less lose by average of 18 points.
Harbaugh record vs Browns 28-5
Bills -7 for 250
Ravens +3 for 100
Bills is the play but I like Cleveland over Baltimore
Minny is crashing Indy I assume?
How about the under in the Browns game. JK Dobbins and Nick Chubb might get 50 carries between them.
Gotta love Minnesota
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@Darin said:
I think I’m just going to throw a bunch of Hundo’s at the Bills moneyline
Glad I stuck with this strategy.🤑
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@Darin said:
I think I’m just going to throw a bunch of Hundo’s at the Bills moneyline
Glad I stuck with this strategy.🤑
You’re right. Bad day at Black Rock for me. Bad beats all day in hold ‘‘em and 0-3 for football. -$400 NFL -$600 hold ‘em. At least I have my health. Yuck. At least they won.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
So anyone that follows this thread knew I took my $1200 from the Rams Super Bowl victory and invested on some futures this summer. Just about all are decided and the two that aren’t look as they might hit
Patriots under 8.5. They need to win out
Carolina over 6. Push with 2 to go.
NY Jets over 5.5 for $250. Win
Broncos under 10 for $250 Win
Bengals under 10 for $200 Loss
Bills over 11.5 for $200 Win
Patriots under 8.5 for $100
Cardinals under 10 for $100 Win
Cowboys under 10.5 for $100 Loss
Rams over 10.5 for $100 Loss
Eagles over 8 for $100 Win
Raiders over 8.5 for $100 Loss
Panthers over 6 for $100
Rams division $125 to win $100 Loss
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Comments
2 team teaser for 25
Raiders-1
Jets +5
Raiders-7 for 25
Posting late but got it in
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Looks like both worked out. 👍👍 Jets are on a 4 game win streak. 🤮
49ers killed what would have been a nice day. Best NFC defense going into the game. I guess that title moves to Dallas for the time being
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
....
The Dallas defense is VERY good. I don't feel comfortable going out on a limb often to say things like this, but I know much more about the Boys than I do any other team. And I expect this defense to get better.
+175
Tampa-2 for 50
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+120
Jags -1 for 25
Bills -10.5 for 100
Washington +3 for 25
Minnesota -3 for 25
Raiders -1 for 25
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+10
Swami isn’t much of a Swami this year. So hard to bet dogs every week but dogs have been covering at a high rate and upsets have been the norm.
Saints +3 for 25
2 team teaser for 50
Bills under 52
Bills -5
Rams +3 for 50
Seahawks +2 for 25
Vikings -3 for 50
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think Washington will win this week. Call me crazy...
After some personal issues Swami appears again. No it wasn’t the Bills losing, I’ve resigned myself to admit the franchise is snake bitten so no worries. Anyways. I’m looking for a bounce back game and week.
For the first time this year Swami is in the red but not for long.
-15
2 team teaser for 100
Bills-1
Colts +12.5
Colts under 46 for 50
Bills -7 for 50
Washington -2.5 for 100.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+285
Back in the saddle again!
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Way to go.
+285
I’m slowing the roll a bit for thanksgiving
Bills ran for 180 yards and it wasn’t Josh Allens legs. The Bills might cover most of 54.5 themselves but if they are determined to get a run game for the playoffs under is a very good play.
Vikings got blown out last week and it’s insane to bet against a good team after that embarrassing game but…
Buffalo under 54.5 for 50
T
2 team teaser for 50
Bills-1.5
Patriots +8.5
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+385
6-0 last 6 wagers. Weekend picks to follow
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+385
Really like the under 36 in the Broncos game but so does the whole betting world so hard pass. Not only are the Saints pulling people from the stands with heir laundry list of injuries I suspect the rest of the team is already on the bus home.
San Francisco-9 for 100
Washington-4 for 50
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I’m gonna hedge a wager
2 team teaser for 50
Denver under 42
49ers -3
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+585
All the sudden Swami is on fire.
8-0 and riding a ridiculous streak til it ends
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Keep it up deuces!🕵️♂️🚚💰
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
Thanks bud.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I really should have lost both Washington and San Francisco bets last week but instead of bad beats my luck held out.
If Rodgers plays, how can you not take the Packers this weekend?
I think the Eagles, Dolphins and Jets come back to earth this week. Thoughts?
I’m not touching Buffalo-New England even though the Bills scored 80 points and zero punts the last 2 games. I think Allen’s elbow has affected his accuracy and hopefully he is healthy for the final push.
My weekend bets to follow
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Let’s look at my NFL futures through week 12.
Super Bowl Odds
Bills +600 for $100
Raiders +4000 for $100
NY Jets over 5.5 for $250. Win
Broncos under 10 for $250 Win
Bengals under 10 for $200
Bills over 11.5 for $200
Patriots under 8.5 for $100
Cardinals under 10 for $100 Win
Cowboys under 10.5 for $100
Rams over 10.5 for $100 Loss
Eagles over 8 for $100 Win
Raiders over 8.5 for $100
Panthers over 6 for $100
As of 11/27
+600
Rams division $125 to win $100
All the wins and losses are secure.
Sweating
New England
Cincinnati
Panthers
The rest look like losses except the Bills but I will turn a profit again.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Deuces at first glance I like the dolphins +4 against the niners.
San Fran didn’t stop the kc offense and I don’t think they stop Miami either plus their offense only scoring 13 points against no.
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
+585
Early thoughts
Packers-3.5
Titans +4.5
Minnesota-3
49er’s -4
I’ll firm it up tomorrow
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
So Swami is on an 11-0 run since taking a few weeks of before thanksgiving.
I used to play high stakes blackjack. $100 minimum. I could walk into the horseshoe, open a table just for me, rope it off and play one on one with the dealer. That way no one else could screw up a run. I once lost 17 hands in a row. I thought that was impossible but just like flipping a coin, the odds never change no matter how many times it comes up heads in a row. Perfect blackjack the dealer has a 52-48% advantage because you can’t see his hole cards.
My system for winning was always increase my bet when winning 100-150-225-275-400-500-750-1000-1500-2000-3000.
Win 10 hands in a row at any given time cash out and go home. Lose a hand and go back to 100. Always play with the casinos money.
Anyways here’s my Sunday early wager.
+575
Minnesota-3 for 100
2 team teaser for 50
Minnesota +3
Titans +10.5
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Glad I stayed away from the 49ers. Jimmy G out 5 minutes into the game
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@2dueces at the end of that Minny game you had 16 and the dealer was showing an ace. you took a hit..........a 2. dealer then turned over a 5, then a king, then a jack.
congrats man, sorry Tennessee let us down
Yeah they were trash today. Still a $45 profit but breaks the streak.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+620
The streak of consecutive wins came to an end but the winning weeks are still alive. Tennessee is probably the worst 7-5 team I’ve ever seen.
How do you not take Tom Terrific tonight with the playoffs on the line and only -3?
Tampa Bay-3 for 50
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
......
I don't comment a lot on this thread. But I do enjoy it and keep up.
@2dueces you ask "how do you not" take Brady tonight with the playoffs on the line... He has to be thinking about the losing record.
Brady came through but not enough to cover. So this week was a $10 loss. Oh the humanity!!
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+610
Game of week. Lock of the year. Bills avenge the loss (5 defensive starters out) With Poyer and White’s return Bills are on a 3 game winning streak. Game is over at halftime.
Bills -10 for 200
2 team teaser for 50
Ravens +8
Under 42.5
2 team teaser for 50
Ravens under 42.5
Minnesota +8
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+610
So after careful consideration last night I didn’t put in the bets above. Something spooked me about Minnesota. Lions are 9-2 ATS last 11 home games. I’m going to take a more traditional approach today.
Eagles have waxed the Giants by +124 last how many games?
Tickets entered
Bills -9.5 for 50
Eagles-7 for 50
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I don't know how you stayed away from Minny, you must have a looking into the future glass
The weather had a lot to do in Buffalo. It was predicted snow flurries but they didn’t happen until after halftime or I would have passed on the game all together.
Detroit started 1-6 and had a .01% to make the playoffs. Now 6-7 their chances are 28%. Not great but damn Campbell has them playing like they believe. Maybe McVay isn’t the offensive juggernaut we believe. Jarod Goff is a legitimate NFL QB.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Carolina really screwed me last night by beating Seattle
I'm pissed
+605
I’m going to try with Buffalo again this week. Miami in the cold at Buffalo. 7 points? Give me that every time
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think I’m just going to throw a bunch of Hundo’s at the Bills moneyline
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
Miami 0-5 in Buffalo by an average 38-18. Miami under 50 degrees average loss is 18.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+655
Bills vs Dolphins in January 2021. Bills had clinched a playoff spot and rested starters 2nd half. Dolphins fighting for their playoff lives. Final score 56-26. Bills 5-0 vs Dolphins at home by an average of 20 points. Dolphins in 30 degree weather or less lose by average of 18 points.
Harbaugh record vs Browns 28-5
Bills -7 for 250
Ravens +3 for 100
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Seems like ex Jets QB’s are having a bit of a resurgence. Darnold and Smith while their #2 draft choice was inactive, coaches decision and only activated because White took a terrific beating in Buffalo.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Bills is the play but I like Cleveland over Baltimore
Minny is crashing Indy I assume?
How about the under in the Browns game. JK Dobbins and Nick Chubb might get 50 carries between them.
Gotta love Minnesota
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I’m going to add a teaser. I’m going against my win streak strategy
2 team teaser for 50
Ravens +9
Ravens under 44.5
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Tucker misses twice. How many times can you say Tuckers killing me
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Glad I stuck with this strategy.🤑
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
You’re right. Bad day at Black Rock for me. Bad beats all day in hold ‘‘em and 0-3 for football. -$400 NFL -$600 hold ‘em. At least I have my health. Yuck. At least they won.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
+235
Jaguars +2.5 for 50
2 team teaser for 100
Jaguars +8.5
Under 44
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
superb
if i never witness zach wilson attempting to play quarterback again it'll be too soon
Really liking Cleveland -3 in the bitter cold against a dome team.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Glad I stayed away.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
So anyone that follows this thread knew I took my $1200 from the Rams Super Bowl victory and invested on some futures this summer. Just about all are decided and the two that aren’t look as they might hit
Patriots under 8.5. They need to win out
Carolina over 6. Push with 2 to go.
NY Jets over 5.5 for $250. Win
Broncos under 10 for $250 Win
Bengals under 10 for $200 Loss
Bills over 11.5 for $200 Win
Patriots under 8.5 for $100
Cardinals under 10 for $100 Win
Cowboys under 10.5 for $100 Loss
Rams over 10.5 for $100 Loss
Eagles over 8 for $100 Win
Raiders over 8.5 for $100 Loss
Panthers over 6 for $100
Rams division $125 to win $100 Loss
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.