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1877 $3 PR66+ DCAM

edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

Any forum members have estimate/guesses for final auction price for this example? Stacks/Bowers Rarities Night.
PCGS POP 3/0
PCGS PG $155,000
Current bid $8,500
Auction Record DCAM $64,625 01/2013

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My My, what a beauty! <3
    At current bid I would pick her up in a heartbeat. But at realistic prices, I will just have to admire the photo.
    This is too far outside my area to even venture a guess.

  • JW77JW77 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    based on looking at auction prices across multiple years in both CAM and DCAM, I would not be surprised for this coin to approach $100k with buyer's fee

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the price guide is $155k, then I’ll say it goes for 1$172k with buyer’s premium.
    This guess is expertly based on…
    absolutely nothing.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, well, well that is a beauty. I would guess that this one goes for right around the estimate @ShaunBC5 says for no reason at all. I do guess with the way the market has been and a lack of auction opportunities for this coin in general will drive up the price considerably.

    Coin Photographer.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably $120,000 with the buyers' fee. Not having a CAC sticker might prompt a few people to pass.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones - The current CAC POP indicates 2 stickered 66 DCAM with a Price Guide of $151,800, so it might sell for less than CAC Guide. Will be interesting to see if less and how much.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful!

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to say. There are two CAC 66’s DCAM but we don’t know if they have a plus.

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @edwardjulio said:
    @BillJones - The current CAC POP indicates 2 stickered 66 DCAM with a Price Guide of $151,800, so it might sell for less than CAC Guide. Will be interesting to see if less and how much.

    Which would you value higher, assuming it is the same exact coin, the 66+ DCAM no sticker or the 66 DCAM CAC?

  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So does anyone think it was just the scratch on the cheek that kept it from grading higher?

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have to sell everything and my wife to afford that
    O, wait a minute, I don't have a wife........... :o

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a beautiful gold coin... I always wonder how coin that old managed to stay in such pristine condition. Cheers, RickO

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @edwardjulio said:


    A true stunner.
    Pure beauty at its finest.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • JW77JW77 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RYK said:

    @edwardjulio said:
    @BillJones - The current CAC POP indicates 2 stickered 66 DCAM with a Price Guide of $151,800, so it might sell for less than CAC Guide. Will be interesting to see if less and how much.

    Which would you value higher, assuming it is the same exact coin, the 66+ DCAM no sticker or the 66 DCAM CAC?

    Assuming equal eye appeal, I would usually pay more for the base grade with the sticker; however, when the plus puts you in top pop and you are a registry collector aiming for a top spot, I would probably go the other direction and lean in the direction of the plus grade. I'm sure opinions vary on this.

  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would prefer base grade with the CAC- on a related note, there are lots of these pieces entering the market currently:
    6 days from now at GC:

    Next week at Stacks:


    Heritage in May:

    I count at least 25 proof $3 gold pieces to be auctioned off over the next 6 weeks- 1 at GC, 21 at Stacks and 3 at HA. If you need one for your type set now may be the time, even though proof gold (all gold really) is hot now!

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    I'd have to sell everything and my wife to afford that
    O, wait a minute, I don't have a wife........... :o

    Wait a minute, no wife.... You should be able to afford three... ;)

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bsshog40 said:
    So does anyone think it was just the scratch on the cheek that kept it from grading higher?

    It appears to be on the plastic, not the coin.

    peacockcoins

  • edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RYK - Valuation will most likely be difficult. 20 examples were struck in 1877, but 27 Proofs (all designations) show on the Population Reports, 13 at PCGS and 14 at NGC. John Dannreuther estimated in 2018 an extant population of 12-14 examples. If I was pursuing this one, I would most definitely secure representation from a specialized dealer.

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bsshog40 said:
    So does anyone think it was just the scratch on the cheek that kept it from grading higher?

    Personally, I think it was the spot in the hair that held it back. The scratch is rather minor, but it is gold colored so I do think it’s on the coin. There’s probably also hairlines we can’t see in the photos.

    Coin Photographer.

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @edwardjulio said:
    @RYK - Valuation will most likely be difficult. 20 examples were struck in 1877, but 27 Proofs (all designations) show on the Population Reports, 13 at PCGS and 14 at NGC. John Dannreuther estimated in 2018 an extant population of 12-14 examples. If I was pursuing this one, I would most definitely secure representation from a specialized dealer.

    That is a most interesting observation. Going with the average of John's estimation, with 13 actual specimens existent we have an artificial population of 27. Using that as a guideline one might well just cut in half the combined population figures for any coin to arrive at an actual real number of existent coins.

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