Apparently, information coming out the mint is that, in contrast to earlier information from the mint (released via coin world), the ASE in the LE silver proof set will be a S mint, not a W mint. Don't take my word for it though...we are dealing with the US Mint.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I wonder if anyone may (or may not) increase their enrolment on the 2022 ASE "S" Proof (22EM)?
I am NOT an expert on enrollments, or the Mint system for enrollments.
That said, I just tried to increase my ASE Proof-S enrollment, and the system seemed to accept the change.
I was actually surprised that it let me increase my enrolment when I did - as it was after the time period when we were told that enrollments were no longer being taken and closed. But just like you, the system seemed to accept my change.
And sure enough, when it came to billing, I was charged for 100 ASE Proof-W coins.
The 100 coins actually arrived today.
Another interesting side point - when the package was sent to me via UPS, it was listed as 15.9lbs. After it arrived, I re-weighed it and it weighed in at 22lbs! I understand the Mint probably gets a nice shipping discount from UPS but a 6lb difference??
@Jzyskowski1 said:
Forgot, when my congratulations set shipped. Don’t know how to take this, considering I’m supposed to be getting away from the Mint
What I find interesting about your new "Free Budget Shipping" due to you placing three orders this year...is that some of those orders (enrollments) already including free shipping as part of the enrolment. Win/Win!
My 3 Congratulations sets are in transit but my order for 5 Proof Eagles was canceled by the Mint today. Not sure I care as I was on the fence about even ordering them but this was first time I ever received a cancellation email from the Mint.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@grote15 said:
My 3 Congratulations sets are in transit but my order for 5 Proof Eagles was canceled by the Mint today. Not sure I care as I was on the fence about even ordering them but this was first time I ever received a cancellation email from the Mint.
Absolutely another reason I checked regularly for an opening in enrollments. I had 2 enrollments and the congratulations set was day of , only. Enrollment is a great deal.
@grote15 said:
My 3 Congratulations sets are in transit but my order for 5 Proof Eagles was canceled by the Mint today. Not sure I care as I was on the fence about even ordering them but this was first time I ever received a cancellation email from the Mint.
Thanks for the link. It looks like maybe these emails may have been sent out in error, as my order still shows as Processing, too.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@HATTRICK said:
You** can not** add a new enrollment, however if you have an existing enrollment already you can change the quantity prior to the release date subject to the following limitations:
it says 2 days prior , however some said it was locked 3 days prior. to avoid issues you should do sooner.
you are subject to the HHL or the number of coins available if you want to increase your quantity.
Remember 'The Mint is like a box of chocolates" Rules, HHL or product limits are subject to change.
Spin that Mint Wheel and hope you land on a lucky space !!!!
As I understand it, the "household order limit" does not apply to enrollments. It only affects people ordering from the website.
The HHL for 22EA at release was 10. Anyone have an enrollment filled for more than 10 coins?
Edited to add: @Burnie - I see from an earlier post that you had an enrollment for 25 x Proof-W ASEs. If you do not mind sharing, did you get all 25 per your enrollment, or were you limited to 10 per the HHL?
Yes, I got all 25 through my enrollment
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@HATTRICK said:
You** can not** add a new enrollment, however if you have an existing enrollment already you can change the quantity prior to the release date subject to the following limitations:
it says 2 days prior , however some said it was locked 3 days prior. to avoid issues you should do sooner.
you are subject to the HHL or the number of coins available if you want to increase your quantity.
Remember 'The Mint is like a box of chocolates" Rules, HHL or product limits are subject to change.
Spin that Mint Wheel and hope you land on a lucky space !!!!
As I understand it, the "household order limit" does not apply to enrollments. It only affects people ordering from the website.
The HHL for 22EA at release was 10. Anyone have an enrollment filled for more than 10 coins?
Edited to add: @Burnie - I see from an earlier post that you had an enrollment for 25 x Proof-W ASEs. If you do not mind sharing, did you get all 25 per your enrollment, or were you limited to 10 per the HHL?
Yes, I got all 25 through my enrollment
Thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate it.
As I understand it, the "household order limit" does not apply to enrollments. It only affects people ordering from the website.
The HHL for 22EA at release was 10. Anyone have an enrollment filled for more than 10 coins?
Edited to add: @Burnie - I see from an earlier post that you had an enrollment for 25 x Proof-W ASEs. If you do not mind sharing, did you get all 25 per your enrollment, or were you limited to 10 per the HHL?
For the enrollments it is not called a HHL but there is a limit set by the mint that can be changed at any time. It may or may not reduce the quantity you already have. Remember that box of chocolates thing.
I also noted in the past an increase in the enrollment quantity that appeared to be ok on my account for a period of time was eventually reduced. Again that box of chocolates thing. And that mint wheel just keeps spinning and spinning.
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
Really. My understanding was that they capped enrollments at 25 pieces. If they changed that I was unaware.
And you actually received 100 ASEs?
I just checked the Proof-S ASE enrollment. Not saying that the Mint would accept it right now, but the system appears to accommodate enrollment requests up to 100 coins.
IIRC - the Mint imposed a 25-coin limit on enrollments for 2021 Proof ASE offerings.
@MetroD said:
The HHL for 22EA at release was 10. Anyone have an enrollment filled for more than 10 coins?
I originally set my enrollment at 25 (back in January) but was able to change it to 100 on April 8th, (about 6 days before the 14th).
Really. My understanding was that they capped enrollments at 25 pieces. If they changed that I was unaware.
And you actually received 100 ASEs?
I don't recall if there was a cap on the enrollments back in January when I originally signed up.
At the time, I selected 25 as I was probably comfortable with that number.
A week before the sale, I was discussing the upcoming sale with someone and they indicated that I could increase my enrollment from 25 to 100. I logged in to try it and changed the 25 to 100 and it seemed to take.
I was still skeptical until a couple days before the sale and my CC got hit with a $7,300 charge & yesterday, 100 coins (22lbs) showed up at my door from UPS.
Again, I don't recall if there was a cap back in Jan - that may be why you and I chose 25 at the time.
per mint sales report as of 4/17 490,947 single W proofs sold, 153,040 in 40 coin tubes sold and 29,972 congratulations sets sold for a total of 673,959 W ASE's so far.
If they produce this many each year going forward. The 2021 type 2 version will be the key coins for sure
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
@SPalladino said:
Apparently, information coming out the mint is that, in contrast to earlier information from the mint (released via coin world), the ASE in the LE silver proof set will be a S mint, not a W mint. Don't take my word for it though...we are dealing with the US Mint.
The product schedule has been changed to reflect this. Now shows San Francisco (S) as opposed to the listing before as (S) and (W).
@HATTRICK said:
per mint sales report as of 4/17 490,947 single W proofs sold, 153,040 in 40 coin tubes sold and 29,972 congratulations sets sold for a total of 673,959 W ASE's so far.
If they produce this many each year going forward. The 2021 type 2 version will be the key coins for sure
There’s not going to be a type 2 W LES 21 or 22 There goes , listen carefully, the sound of the mint crushing collectors dreams. They couldn’t finish the W nickels, more knashing of teeth, changed the A I dollar reverse proof format to 4 coin holders.
All together now 🎶
“ we’re working to enhance your experience and enjoyment 🎶
@alefzero said:
Got my alert text of availability. Went to the Mint's website. Sold out. What? Did they just have one?
99.9 out of 100 times the coins are sold out before you get the reminder. It is virtually useless.
Got my 3 coins today in a box more than big enough for 25 coins.
Got another alert. Ordered 10. Had to do as guest (with same email address), as I couldn't get the login to work. I don't order from the Mint much so when I saw no order in the order history, I ordered another 5. I pulled 10 out of the air, half-asleep anyway. Could have just as easily been 20. Called Customer Service and they are both in the system. So I guess I will get 15. Will avoid buying them in the secondary system with markups. Instead will be in the secondary system.
Is the Congratulations Set release worth it? Same product I assume, just with the potential for a vanity line on the PCGS tag when properly submitted. (I deal with real coins usually, but got into building an SAE set for the hell of it.)
W ASE still available at 12:05 PM Est. The mint's plan to help stamp out the flippers is working. Backorders being cancelled by the tens of thousands. Coins being returned by the tens of thousands. Anybody who wants one will be able to get it at mint cost or a dollar or two over. And some may even end up going for below issue price.
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
Some of you are confused. Yes, the US Mint email said "product enrollments" are sold out for the W & S ASEs. HOWEVER, many people (myself included) cancelled our enrollments for 10 coins, after discovering the W mintages were going to be over 500,000! These cancellations are the reason that coins were still available on launch day. It's not that the US Mint was lying to us, I kept my 10 enrollments active for the S mint ASE because I think less of them will be made,
@originalsandman - The reason the Congratulations set labels sell for more, is because many people collect the labels. Only 30,000 of the 2022 ASE Congratulations sets were made compared to over 500,000 of the regular 2022 ASE W coins. They're just harder to find,
@younique said:
Yes, the LE should contain a "W" eagle. So, add 50,000 to the proof "W" by virtue of the set if CoinWorld is correct. No eagle in annual silver proof set. Was just talking uncs.
The 2022 LE Proof set should include both the W and S ASE.
@HATTRICK said:
Magic Mike has the BS “advanced release” W proof PR70 ASE for the bargain price of $469.95 + $9.95 Only going to be 300,000 😱 it will be the rarest ASE in mint history
Bonus of 1 acre of swamp land in Florida
@smuglr said:
Yeah just watching that. I don't know how he gets away witb the lies. Even if it were just the single proof eagle (not bulk, congrats, or lesp) there are 500,000. Not nearly the rarest.
FWIW, I have been monitoring the HSN 'product page' for this item on a regular basis. Bluntly, was waiting to see if the apparent mintage discrepancy was ever addressed.
Noticed yesterday that the original video, the one that stated a 300,000 mintage, was gone. Today there is a new video. Could have missed it, but I do not believe that the new video references a mintage limit.
Perhaps HSN 'and/or' the host realized that there was an issue with the 300,000 mintage figure?
@younique said:
Yes, the LE should contain a "W" eagle. So, add 50,000 to the proof "W" by virtue of the set if CoinWorld is correct. No eagle in annual silver proof set. Was just talking uncs.
The 2022 LE Proof set should include both the W and S ASE.
2021 was an anomaly because of Type 1 and Type 2 silver eagles. 2021 was called
"Limited Edition 2021 Silver Proof Set - American Eagle Collection". "This is the only year this set boasts two American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coins".
2022 should only have one,"W" like previous years.
Edgar.
Agreed buddy. For those doing sets there’s going to be a gap with no type 2 W ase LES for the change.
I’m with you and wonder about that little problem. I almost feel sorry for them. The W nickel ( stopped mid run). The attempt to continue the morgan and peace series with a proof ( stopped before issuing) . Now no 2022 W LES proof ( very mid run).
Leaving the congratulations set as the type 2 first year offering.
I know there’s people doing runs that aren’t going to be thrilled but there’s several coins/series that come to mind. 😉🙀🦫
2021 was an anomaly because of Type 1 and Type 2 silver eagles. 2021 was called
"Limited Edition 2021 Silver Proof Set - American Eagle Collection". "This is the only year this set boasts two American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coins".
2022 should only have one,"W" like previous years.
@Jzyskowski1 said:
That’s pretty much been confirmed. Proof ase S. LES. We could be wrong 😉🙀🦫
I've seen that also, but I tend to rely on that March CoinWorld article...The 2022 Limited Edition Proof Silver set when offered this fall will be restricted to a release of 50,000 sets, and will contain seven Proof San Francisco Mint coins and a Proof 2022-W American Eagle silver dollar.
I wish I had screenshots from last week because I read something about the S ase replacing the W type 2. I was way under the weather. Dang it.
We’ll see soon enough
Now let’s see how the Negro league privy release goes tonight. 😉🙀🦫
@jessewvu said:
I got my ASE proofs in, poor quality... smear/toning on one, inclusions/dust in several... Nothing like the 2021-W (21EA).
I was beginning to think I was the only one that got bad quality coins. I had 25 different shipments of these and had the same problems on every order. Hazings, Pits in the background and a lot of foreign material inside holders.
Reminds me a bit of the 2020Ws I got. From the mint to my house to a safe to PCGS. Of 5, 2 came back 67s. Tho, no splotches or marks I could see.
Luckily, the 5 I got this year, after a quick look, seem ok - quite good actually ... looked better than the type2s I remember from last year (which are STILL in grading at PCGS - since 2/9).
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Apparently, information coming out the mint is that, in contrast to earlier information from the mint (released via coin world), the ASE in the LE silver proof set will be a S mint, not a W mint. Don't take my word for it though...we are dealing with the US Mint.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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I wonder if anyone may (or may not) increase their enrolment on the 2022 ASE "S" Proof (22EM)?
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I am NOT an expert on enrollments, or the Mint system for enrollments.
That said, I just tried to increase my ASE Proof-S enrollment, and the system seemed to accept the change.
I was actually surprised that it let me increase my enrolment when I did - as it was after the time period when we were told that enrollments were no longer being taken and closed. But just like you, the system seemed to accept my change.
And sure enough, when it came to billing, I was charged for 100 ASE Proof-W coins.
The 100 coins actually arrived today.
Another interesting side point - when the package was sent to me via UPS, it was listed as 15.9lbs. After it arrived, I re-weighed it and it weighed in at 22lbs! I understand the Mint probably gets a nice shipping discount from UPS but a 6lb difference??
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Forgot, when my congratulations set shipped. Don’t know how to take this, considering I’m supposed to be getting away from the Mint
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
What I find interesting about your new "Free Budget Shipping" due to you placing three orders this year...is that some of those orders (enrollments) already including free shipping as part of the enrolment. Win/Win!
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My 3 Congratulations sets are in transit but my order for 5 Proof Eagles was canceled by the Mint today. Not sure I care as I was on the fence about even ordering them but this was first time I ever received a cancellation email from the Mint.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Was the cancelled Proofs the "S" or "W" ASE's?
If so, you may want to Follow This thread for updates - 2022 Proof Silver Eagles mint message?
When did you order your 5 Proof Eagles?
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Absolutely another reason I checked regularly for an opening in enrollments. I had 2 enrollments and the congratulations set was day of , only. Enrollment is a great deal.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
The W Proofs..I ordered 5 on first day of issue.
Thanks for the link. It looks like maybe these emails may have been sent out in error, as my order still shows as Processing, too.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Yes, I got all 25 through my enrollment
Thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate it.
Enrollment still processing…
Got mine yesterday (5, 1st year of enrollment).
Hmmm. The anti-counterfeit edge notch moved from the date to the sun this year. Interesting.
Really. My understanding was that they capped enrollments at 25 pieces. If they changed that I was unaware.
And you actually received 100 ASEs?
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
For the enrollments it is not called a HHL but there is a limit set by the mint that can be changed at any time. It may or may not reduce the quantity you already have. Remember that box of chocolates thing.
I also noted in the past an increase in the enrollment quantity that appeared to be ok on my account for a period of time was eventually reduced. Again that box of chocolates thing. And that mint wheel just keeps spinning and spinning.
I just checked the Proof-S ASE enrollment. Not saying that the Mint would accept it right now, but the system appears to accommodate enrollment requests up to 100 coins.
IIRC - the Mint imposed a 25-coin limit on enrollments for 2021 Proof ASE offerings.
Edited for a typo.
I don't recall if there was a cap on the enrollments back in January when I originally signed up.
At the time, I selected 25 as I was probably comfortable with that number.
A week before the sale, I was discussing the upcoming sale with someone and they indicated that I could increase my enrollment from 25 to 100. I logged in to try it and changed the 25 to 100 and it seemed to take.
I was still skeptical until a couple days before the sale and my CC got hit with a $7,300 charge & yesterday, 100 coins (22lbs) showed up at my door from UPS.
Again, I don't recall if there was a cap back in Jan - that may be why you and I chose 25 at the time.
BST references available on request
31237 W ASE available at the start
per mint sales report as of 4/17 490,947 single W proofs sold, 153,040 in 40 coin tubes sold and 29,972 congratulations sets sold for a total of 673,959 W ASE's so far.
If they produce this many each year going forward. The 2021 type 2 version will be the key coins for sure
There was definitely a 25 limit last year and I received nothing about it being lifted otherwise I'd have gotten more. Pi$$es me off.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Got my alert text of availability. Went to the Mint's website. Sold out. What? Did they just have one?
99.9 out of 100 times the coins are sold out before you get the reminder. It is virtually useless.
Got my 3 coins today in a box more than big enough for 25 coins.
The product schedule has been changed to reflect this. Now shows San Francisco (S) as opposed to the listing before as (S) and (W).
There’s not going to be a type 2 W LES 21 or 22 There goes , listen carefully, the sound of the mint crushing collectors dreams. They couldn’t finish the W nickels, more knashing of teeth, changed the A I dollar reverse proof format to 4 coin holders.
All together now 🎶
“ we’re working to enhance your experience and enjoyment 🎶
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
There were tens of thousands available this morning at 0730 EST.
over 24,000 now.
Got another alert. Ordered 10. Had to do as guest (with same email address), as I couldn't get the login to work. I don't order from the Mint much so when I saw no order in the order history, I ordered another 5. I pulled 10 out of the air, half-asleep anyway. Could have just as easily been 20. Called Customer Service and they are both in the system. So I guess I will get 15. Will avoid buying them in the secondary system with markups. Instead will be in the secondary system.
Is the Congratulations Set release worth it? Same product I assume, just with the potential for a vanity line on the PCGS tag when properly submitted. (I deal with real coins usually, but got into building an SAE set for the hell of it.)
W ASE still available at 12:05 PM Est. The mint's plan to help stamp out the flippers is working. Backorders being cancelled by the tens of thousands. Coins being returned by the tens of thousands. Anybody who wants one will be able to get it at mint cost or a dollar or two over. And some may even end up going for below issue price.
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dropped only a few 100 in ~2 hrs.
I hope the ASE S proofs are as available (w/o enrollment).
If they have enough planchets they will be. The mint knows how to milk a cash cow.
Just dropped 21,000 in the last 15 minutes. They are all gone again. Seems like there may be some sort of game going on.
3 card Monty?
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
W is available
Negro league privy available for a second. 😉🙀🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Yep, it was available for plenty of time to pick up a couple more. Had to dump out the 2 Congrats out of my bag tho.
Some of you are confused. Yes, the US Mint email said "product enrollments" are sold out for the W & S ASEs. HOWEVER, many people (myself included) cancelled our enrollments for 10 coins, after discovering the W mintages were going to be over 500,000! These cancellations are the reason that coins were still available on launch day. It's not that the US Mint was lying to us, I kept my 10 enrollments active for the S mint ASE because I think less of them will be made,
@originalsandman - The reason the Congratulations set labels sell for more, is because many people collect the labels. Only 30,000 of the 2022 ASE Congratulations sets were made compared to over 500,000 of the regular 2022 ASE W coins. They're just harder to find,
The 2022 LE Proof set should include both the W and S ASE.
FWIW, I have been monitoring the HSN 'product page' for this item on a regular basis. Bluntly, was waiting to see if the apparent mintage discrepancy was ever addressed.
Noticed yesterday that the original video, the one that stated a 300,000 mintage, was gone. Today there is a new video. Could have missed it, but I do not believe that the new video references a mintage limit.
Perhaps HSN 'and/or' the host realized that there was an issue with the 300,000 mintage figure?
2021 was an anomaly because of Type 1 and Type 2 silver eagles. 2021 was called
"Limited Edition 2021 Silver Proof Set - American Eagle Collection". "This is the only year this set boasts two American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coins".
2022 should only have one,"W" like previous years.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/limited-edition-proof-silver-set-scheduled-for-50-000-units
I'm only guessing.
(l8-)>>
Edgar.
Agreed buddy. For those doing sets there’s going to be a gap with no type 2 W ase LES for the change.
I’m with you and wonder about that little problem. I almost feel sorry for them. The W nickel ( stopped mid run). The attempt to continue the morgan and peace series with a proof ( stopped before issuing) . Now no 2022 W LES proof ( very mid run).
Leaving the congratulations set as the type 2 first year offering.
I know there’s people doing runs that aren’t going to be thrilled but there’s several coins/series that come to mind. 😉🙀🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
I am unable to provide a reference, but it has been reported in this thread that the ASE might be a "S" (i.e., here and here).
Time will tell.
That’s pretty much been confirmed. Proof ase S. LES. We could be wrong 😉🙀🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
I've seen that also, but I tend to rely on that March CoinWorld article...The 2022 Limited Edition Proof Silver set when offered this fall will be restricted to a release of 50,000 sets, and will contain seven Proof San Francisco Mint coins and a Proof 2022-W American Eagle silver dollar.
(l8-)>>
I wish I had screenshots from last week because I read something about the S ase replacing the W type 2. I was way under the weather. Dang it.
We’ll see soon enough
Now let’s see how the Negro league privy release goes tonight. 😉🙀🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
I got my ASE proofs in, poor quality... smear/toning on one, inclusions/dust in several... Nothing like the 2021-W (21EA).
I was beginning to think I was the only one that got bad quality coins. I had 25 different shipments of these and had the same problems on every order. Hazings, Pits in the background and a lot of foreign material inside holders.
Dang. Sorry guys. That is just not what we’re wanting to hear. 😉🙀🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Reminds me a bit of the 2020Ws I got. From the mint to my house to a safe to PCGS. Of 5, 2 came back 67s. Tho, no splotches or marks I could see.
Luckily, the 5 I got this year, after a quick look, seem ok - quite good actually ... looked better than the type2s I remember from last year (which are STILL in grading at PCGS - since 2/9).