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  • jkrkjkrk Posts: 987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I rarely buy Double Eagles with a CAC sticker. I like the unblemished slabs. If I send a box in to be reviewed by Cac and they happen to sticker I immediately put the coin up for sale. I won't have stickered coins contaminating the rest.

    On the question of NGC versus PCGS stickered slabs I found that the green sticker offsets any customers preference.

    with that said Peas and broccoli are both green vegetables. Peas are overall better for you and are probably more popular.
    However, if I need Calcium and Potassium I'm going with broccoli.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    The mods could ignore the fact it is another CAC thread of the same question

    And

    Shut it down due to the bickering

    I haven't read every thread related to CAC but the question regarding CAC not reviewing and stickering ICG, ANACS and other slabs is one worth discussing. If CAC has its own grading standard why wouldn't they put a sticker on an ANACS coin that meets that standard?

    Probably because, contrary to what some are asserting, CAC stickers don't equalize the value of different flavors of plastic. Since market making is their driving force, too many tiers would be more headache than it's worth.

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In before the lock...

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Isn't it about time for the CAC choir to move on over to the newly formed CAC forum????? Or will the CAC disciples continue to plague this forum?

    Let me help..... >:)

    https://caccoin.com/forums/

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭

    I think in a previous CAC thread I referred to some as Koolaid drinkers if you thought a PCGS CAC coin might sell for more than that same coin in an NGC CAC holder. I OWN BOTH IN CAC HOLDERS. I apologize for any offense taken but David Hall is gone. PCGS Board of Experts may live on as PCGS only dealers but are no longer modeled as they once were. One of those experts even stated to me that the Newman coins were not marketable in NGC holders. What they really meant was that they would rather offer them in PCGS plastic to be consistent in their premise that they could sell for more. I cannot buy that for a minute as I view a buyers market with an open mind, not half a brain.

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭

    @jkrk said:
    I rarely buy Double Eagles with a CAC sticker. I like the unblemished slabs. If I send a box in to be reviewed by Cac and they happen to sticker I immediately put the coin up for sale. I won't have stickered coins contaminating the rest.

    On the question of NGC versus PCGS stickered slabs I found that the green sticker offsets any customers preference.

    with that said Peas and broccoli are both green vegetables. Peas are overall better for you and are probably more popular.
    However, if I need Calcium and Potassium I'm going with broccoli.

    Of course you realize that even if the sticker was removed, it is still CAC verified. Would that cloud of uncertainty still cause you to sell your premium coins ?

  • jkrkjkrk Posts: 987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just bought the code book so I can decipher my post. It clearly bombed.

    I rarely buy DE's with a sticker. I mainly am buying gold proxies so I am interested in lower premiums. I sell most coins that sticker since they prove to be a bonus which I pass along to others.

    NGC vs PCGS.. In my selling history, I usually receive the same price once stickered.

    Peas vs Broccoli? More people prefer Peas (which I believe was a topic?) but they each have their proponents. Overall, if you want a more obscure coin the grading service might not play as much of a role in your decision to buy.

    Remind me not to post at midnight.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Isn't it about time for the CAC choir to move on over to the newly formed CAC forum????? Or will the CAC disciples continue to plague this forum?

    @MsMorrisine said:
    The mods could ignore the fact it is another CAC thread of the same question

    And

    Shut it down due to the bickering

    Do you think this thread was started by a member of the "CAC choir"?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    I think in a previous CAC thread I referred to some as Koolaid drinkers if you thought a PCGS CAC coin might sell for more than that same coin in an NGC CAC holder. I OWN BOTH IN CAC HOLDERS. I apologize for any offense taken but David Hall is gone. PCGS Board of Experts may live on as PCGS only dealers but are no longer modeled as they once were. One of those experts even stated to me that the Newman coins were not marketable in NGC holders. What they really meant was that they would rather offer them in PCGS plastic to be consistent in their premise that they could sell for more. I cannot buy that for a minute as I view a buyers market with an open mind, not half a brain.

    It's not a question of "Koolaid drinkers". It's a market reality. Now, sure, maybe the people doing the bidding are "PCGS Koolaid drinkers", but observing and naming the phenomenon is not a case of self deception.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jkrk said:
    I just bought the code book so I can decipher my post. It clearly bombed.

    I rarely buy DE's with a sticker. I mainly am buying gold proxies so I am interested in lower premiums. I sell most coins that sticker since they prove to be a bonus which I pass along to others.

    NGC vs PCGS.. In my selling history, I usually receive the same price once stickered.

    Peas vs Broccoli? More people prefer Peas (which I believe was a topic?) but they each have their proponents. Overall, if you want a more obscure coin the grading service might not play as much of a role in your decision to buy.

    Remind me not to post at midnight.

    What about Broccolini?

    And what of black-eyed peas?

    I wouldn't expect to see an NGC/PCGS divergence in bullion-level gold.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Me likka Broccoli much better than peas! :#

  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2021 9:34AM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It's not a question of "Koolaid drinkers". It's a market reality.

    Market reality is that this 1974 Ford Pinto station wagon will probably go for around $18,000.00
    It is a fact that CAC coins mostly sell for higher prices. In both cases, my one eyebrow goes up.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What the market thinks and what you think are different things. For the sake of argument, even if you're correct, the market doesn't care.

  • FrankHFrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Isn't it about time for the CAC choir to move on over to the newly formed CAC forum????? Or will the CAC disciples continue to plague this forum?

    @MsMorrisine said:
    The mods could ignore the fact it is another CAC thread of the same question

    And

    Shut it down due to the bickering

    Do you think this thread was started by a member of the "CAC choir"?

    Do you think the thread stayed on track to answer whether CAC uses the slab to approve or decline a sticker?

    :)

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:
    I think the question alluded to in the OP is whether CAC has its own grading standard or makes the judgment on whether to sticker a coin based on the differing standards used by these major grading companies. When an NGC coin is sticker is CAC indicating the coin is solid based on NGC's assessment of grade (typically thought to be not as stringent as PCGS) or a standard CAC adheres to that may be different from both NGC and PCGS?

    If JA will make an offer on a coin, CAC puts a sticker on it. That's it. Usually, but not always, such coin is solid for the grade. PCGS, NGC, and CAC each have certain quirks about what they like for a particular grade. While they usually are on the same page, this is not always the case.

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    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    I think the question alluded to in the OP is whether CAC has its own grading standard or makes the judgment on whether to sticker a coin based on the differing standards used by these major grading companies. When an NGC coin is sticker is CAC indicating the coin is solid based on NGC's assessment of grade (typically thought to be not as stringent as PCGS) or a standard CAC adheres to that may be different from both NGC and PCGS?

    If JA will make an offer on a coin, CAC puts a sticker on it. That's it. Usually, but not always, such coin is solid for the grade. PCGS, NGC, and CAC each have certain quirks about what they like for a particular grade. While they usually are on the same page, this is not always the case.

    CAC stickers coins they feel are solid for the grade or better, without regard to whether they’d have any interest in making offers on or buying them.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FrankH said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Isn't it about time for the CAC choir to move on over to the newly formed CAC forum????? Or will the CAC disciples continue to plague this forum?

    @MsMorrisine said:
    The mods could ignore the fact it is another CAC thread of the same question

    And

    Shut it down due to the bickering

    Do you think this thread was started by a member of the "CAC choir"?

    Do you think the thread stayed on track to answer whether CAC uses the slab to approve or decline a sticker?

    :)

    Not relevant to the complaint I was responding to. This thread exists even without the "choir". The complainer could choose to ignore it, but can't. So, in fact, he is also contributing to the thread staying on the 1st page. So consignment of the choir to the CAC forum changes nothing.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    I think the question alluded to in the OP is whether CAC has its own grading standard or makes the judgment on whether to sticker a coin based on the differing standards used by these major grading companies. When an NGC coin is sticker is CAC indicating the coin is solid based on NGC's assessment of grade (typically thought to be not as stringent as PCGS) or a standard CAC adheres to that may be different from both NGC and PCGS?

    If JA will make an offer on a coin, CAC puts a sticker on it. That's it. Usually, but not always, such coin is solid for the grade. PCGS, NGC, and CAC each have certain quirks about what they like for a particular grade. While they usually are on the same page, this is not always the case.

    This is actually backwards. If it has a sticker, they will offer. But JA will tell you directly that he's not the highest offer for some of that material.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So- some people don't like it that some other people value the opinion of some other other people when reviewing the opinion of some other other other people?

    Is that about right?

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :#:p:p:p:p:p

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @FrankH said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Isn't it about time for the CAC choir to move on over to the newly formed CAC forum????? Or will the CAC disciples continue to plague this forum?

    @MsMorrisine said:
    The mods could ignore the fact it is another CAC thread of the same question

    And

    Shut it down due to the bickering

    Do you think this thread was started by a member of the "CAC choir"?

    Do you think the thread stayed on track to answer whether CAC uses the slab to approve or decline a sticker?

    :)

    Not relevant to the complaint I was responding to. This thread exists even without the "choir". The complainer could choose to ignore it, but can't. So, in fact, he is also contributing to the thread staying on the 1st page. So consignment of the choir to the CAC forum changes nothing.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    So- some people don't like it that some other people value the opinion of some other other people when reviewing the opinion of some other other other people?

    Is that about right?

    Yep thats about right, same old same old.

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    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @MasonG said:
    So- some people don't like it that some other people value the opinion of some other other people when reviewing the opinion of some other other other people?

    Is that about right?

    Yep thats about right, same old same old.

    OPP

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Elcontador said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    I think the question alluded to in the OP is whether CAC has its own grading standard or makes the judgment on whether to sticker a coin based on the differing standards used by these major grading companies. When an NGC coin is sticker is CAC indicating the coin is solid based on NGC's assessment of grade (typically thought to be not as stringent as PCGS) or a standard CAC adheres to that may be different from both NGC and PCGS?

    If JA will make an offer on a coin, CAC puts a sticker on it. That's it. Usually, but not always, such coin is solid for the grade. PCGS, NGC, and CAC each have certain quirks about what they like for a particular grade. While they usually are on the same page, this is not always the case.

    This is actually backwards. If it has a sticker, they will offer. But JA will tell you directly that he's not the highest offer for some of that material.

    You are correct; while JA will make an offer on said coin, it may not be the highest offer.

    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Elcontador said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    I think the question alluded to in the OP is whether CAC has its own grading standard or makes the judgment on whether to sticker a coin based on the differing standards used by these major grading companies. When an NGC coin is sticker is CAC indicating the coin is solid based on NGC's assessment of grade (typically thought to be not as stringent as PCGS) or a standard CAC adheres to that may be different from both NGC and PCGS?

    If JA will make an offer on a coin, CAC puts a sticker on it. That's it. Usually, but not always, such coin is solid for the grade. PCGS, NGC, and CAC each have certain quirks about what they like for a particular grade. While they usually are on the same page, this is not always the case.

    This is actually backwards. If it has a sticker, they will offer. But JA will tell you directly that he's not the highest offer for some of that material.

    You are correct; while JA will make an offer on said coin, it may not be the highest offer.

    Hmmm, sounds like any other coin dealer...

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2021 9:44PM

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You’ll have to ask JA. While their website answers tons of questions, they have chosen to not address that question on their website.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Hmmm, sounds like any other coin dealer...

    Show me a saint & I'll make an offer on it. :D
    If you want a ReadyFIreAim sticker, it will cost you ten bucks.
    If the coin is later determined to be counterfeit, I'll remove the sticker for free.

  • gschwernkgschwernk Posts: 366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think an important factor is that I believe more $$$'s are chasing PCGS registry sets than NGC sets.

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:
    You’ll have to ask JA. While their website answers tons of questions, they have chosen to not address that question on their website.

    Probably the diplomatic thing to do. One consideration may simply be CAC would not be able to handle the additional volume of submissions. For example, CAC is often not accepting new submitters.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There were two sides to a coin. Then came CAC. Like a referee in the game.

  • Morpheus1967Morpheus1967 Posts: 173 ✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @MFeld said:

    @winesteven said:

    @PerryHall said:

    NGC stopped allowing new PCGS slabbed coins into their registry several years ago.

    Absolutely incorrect! Only a few months ago I started, and added my entire collection to dozens of NGC Registry sets, all for curiosity. My collection is 100% PCGS graded coins. As I regularly add new coins to my PCGS Registry sets, I also add those same PCGS graded coins to my NGC sets. The last addition was this past week!

    Steve

    I believe that you’re both correct. NGC did stop accepting PCGS coins in their sets for some time, but subsequently started allowing them again about two years ago.

    Thanks for setting the record straight. I didn't realize NGC went back to allowing PCGS coins in their registry which I think was the right thing to do. I'm glad to see that at least one of the major grading services is practicing inclusivity.

    Actually, they let PCGS coins in if they are American coins. Foreign coins are still not accepted into their registry.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    There were two sides to a coin. Then came CAC. Like a referee in the game.

    There was 3 sides to a coin... then slabs were invented.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2021 6:51AM

    @Gazes said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

    I'd really like to know why McDonald's doesn't serve Italian sausage.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gazes said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

    Important versus solving world hunger, no. Important as in an interesting bit of market information, yes. Do you know the answer?

    The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:

    @Gazes said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

    Important versus solving world hunger, no. Important as in an interesting bit of market information, yes. Do you know the answer?

    Yes

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only in a CAC thread can you inject Pinto station wagons and Italian sausage.

    Many rare coin dealers do not carry other grading service products besides the two most prolific.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kove said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    Several years ago, 2013-ish maybe, there was an interview in Coin World where JA stated that they had reviewed groups of coins from other grading services to see if they should expand. Not enough of these other slabs would have earned CAC stickers for it to be worthwhile for them to start including the other slabs. The interview may still be in Coin World's archives.

    People ignore that the review is free for non- dealers.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @Gazes said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

    Important versus solving world hunger, no. Important as in an interesting bit of market information, yes. Do you know the answer?

    Yes

    You had know idea what the answer was until Kove replied.

    The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    I don’t understand why people are upset with CAC threads as like it or not CAC is an important and integral part of the hobby. There are issues worth discussing concerning CAC just as there are issues with the TPG services that are discussed in this forum on a regular basis.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2021 1:24PM

    @pmh1nic said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @Gazes said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @winesteven said:

    @pmh1nic said:
    O.k., so CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. Does an ANACS or ICG coin never meet their standard? Does CAC figure putting a sticker on an ICG slab validates ICG as a reputable grading company? Or does CAC believe sticker a coin in an ICG slab diminishes the CAC reputation?

    The bottom line is as you said - CAC will not sticker anything that is not in an NGC or PCGS holder. That is their policy, end of story!

    My question is what is the reasoning behind their policy?

    Is this really important to you?

    Important versus solving world hunger, no. Important as in an interesting bit of market information, yes. Do you know the answer?

    Yes

    You had know idea what the answer was until Kove

    No

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Don't forget, I've been "hyping" CAC for years.

    Nothing wrong with that. What everybody really wants to know, though- are you still flipping those Morgans?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Don't forget, I've been "hyping" CAC for years.

    Nothing wrong with that. What everybody really wants to know, though- are you still flipping those Morgans?

    No

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