Amazing 1802 Dollar Error
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The owner found this in his “very old family coin collection” so I’m sure it’s genuine. I think the $975 shipping cost is a bit excessive, unless he plans to personally deliver the coin anywhere in the USA.
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He mentions all sorts of professional opinions, but somehow none of them slabbed it.
The "2" in the dates look different.
Unless it is slabbed I can't trust it.
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It originally came into the country with ChopSticks
My off center example:
The posted one matches the diagnostics of mine and other known counterfeits. I actually wrote a Coin Week article on this "family" of fakes...
This will be reported and removed.
That one has too much MSG !
Msg? What is it
Mint State Garbage
Listing has been pulled now.... Thanks for getting a picture....Cheers, RickO
Accent?
don't hear much about its use anymore
MonoSodium Glutamate
it's a flavor enhancer
3 reasons why it is a fake ...
1) It looks like a fake
2) The price is way, way, way off if real, which it is not.
3) A real coin would be in a TPG
I have also seen a 1796 half cent over struck on a cut-down large cent planchet. Country of origin was Asia; time struck was at least 2 centuries after the date shown on the disk of metal.
It's MSG which stands for Mono Sodium Glutamate which is a flavor enhancer used in many Chinese dishes.
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MSG is used in a lot of food not just Chinese food. It is in many things you buy at the supermarket including soup and peanut butter.
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Neat counterfeit anyway. No, it does not match any listed die pair. But like $50 + free shipping level of neat.
The reverse for those who didn't see it.
Reverse is modeled after the 1799 B-10.
The hand thrown making of a coin in the 18th century would only produce "errors" like these if they were done deliberately. Why would a mint employee do it? The US mint was less than a decade old and error coins were not a thing. Collecting US coins was not a thing. That thinking did not exist.... Making good, struck large coin was hard enough and very very crude compared to today. An off center coin would be more likely and to spare the waste of a nice silver disk, would be put in the stack.
While that coin isn’t genuine, many genuine ones are both underpriced and not yet graded. There can be a big difference between red flags (like those you listed) and correct conclusions.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I would steer clear of that one!
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