I am currently researching and collecting the British coins that was issued during the French Revolution and the age of Napoleon. I am not ready to post or publish anything yet, but here’s one of the pieces I purchased recently.
"Two kings, but not a crown." This counterstamped Spanish 8 reales was valued at 4 shilling, 9 pence, 3 pence short of a crown. And yes, "The Bank (of England) to get its coins to pass, stamped the head of a fool on the neck of an ass."
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@7Jaguars said:
Indeed, they did it on field hairlines though. I think this a stunning medal.
Speaking of medals, two from QE II's Jubilee in 1977. The first was later adapted for the gold 1989 sovereign commems, but the second is possibly the finest of all Arnold Machin's bust and done in extremely high relief:
Sweet! What a nice toning on the reverse, that became the obverse of the 1989 gold sovereign!
@BillJones said:
I am currently researching and collecting the British coins that was issued during the French Revolution and the age of Napoleon. I am not ready to post or publish anything yet, but here’s one of the pieces I purchased recently.
"Two kings, but not a crown." This counterstamped Spanish 8 reales was valued at 4 shilling, 9 pence, 3 pence short of a crown. And yes, "The Bank (of England) to get its coins to pass, stamped the head of a fool on the neck of an ass."
Cool example!
Does one of these hallmarks look familiar?
(London 1788)
Here is the other type of counterstamp. This one is not quite as nice. It is my understanding that it is rarer.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
An example of a shilling token issued when Napolean was causing trouble in Europe. It resulted in extensive coin hoarding in England.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
My English collection started as
one from every Monarch but it expanded a little.
I am doing the "one of each monarch" set, but foolishly I am going back as far as possible. I am also including all the Scottish kings. I have around 100 different rulers.
Edward I 1a farthing struck in debased silver (o.766 fine)
Victoria 1888 Jubilee head groat
Lead splash of the first pattern crown obverse produced after the introduction of the Jubilee Head in 1887, following which she was not amused. Much cheaper than buying one of the 4 known full coins in silver (2 types), and the obverse is the interesting bit because a regular currency reverse was used,
@robp2 said:
Given it was graded extremely fine in the sale, I'm going to guess unc details (graffiti).
I wondered where that went as McMillan is a gap in my list of attributed designers. Better keep an eye open for no.4 or any others that come to light.
I'm not seeing any graffiti on that coin. But this is the first time I'm seeing it. I did not see the sale photos. Is there some re-engraving at the top of the head (under the G)?
Looks MS62-ish to me, unless I am missing something.
Good spoon the re-engraving. The MODEL reverse or obverse on many of these Patterns seem to feature many traits, the engraving of numbers at the mint, and unfortunately a preservation of planchet issues including pre-strike and post strike contacts of various sorts. The actual pattern (obverse obviously - LOL) actually has very little wear although looks to have accumulated some grime in the devices of the King's portrait and in the lettering. Ear, hair, brow, cheekbone and nose free from hits. Honestly I would have trouble grading this coin. Additionally the engraving is rather sharp and though not of apparent proof quality, better than (IMO) standard currency strike fair; it did not grade specimen but I might have advised that if anybody asked.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
Not a coin, but a token. It's interesting how the issuers went to great lengths to identify themselves and limit how the piece was intended to be used. This was issued during the coin shortage in England that Napoleon caused.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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Authenticated and graded Double Reverse Penny!!
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I am currently researching and collecting the British coins that was issued during the French Revolution and the age of Napoleon. I am not ready to post or publish anything yet, but here’s one of the pieces I purchased recently.
"Two kings, but not a crown." This counterstamped Spanish 8 reales was valued at 4 shilling, 9 pence, 3 pence short of a crown. And yes, "The Bank (of England) to get its coins to pass, stamped the head of a fool on the neck of an ass."
Nice one @BillJones
8 Reales Madness Collection
1926 Peace [Dollar] Crown:
This coin is rather more than scarce.
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70 years on the throne, not too shabby!
Not your everyday half crown:
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Sweet! What a nice toning on the reverse, that became the obverse of the 1989 gold sovereign!
@jt88 that’s a pretty halfcrown too! 👍🏿
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Cool example!
Does one of these hallmarks look familiar?
(London 1788)
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Here is the other type of counterstamp. This one is not quite as nice. It is my understanding that it is rarer.
Very cool @BillJones
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"Reduced Sized shilling"
An example of a shilling token issued when Napolean was causing trouble in Europe. It resulted in extensive coin hoarding in England.
That is a stunner! I absolutely love it. I aspire to have a shilling as nice for my collection.
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A bit like my 6d!
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My two last shilling acquisitions
I am doing the "one of each monarch" set, but foolishly I am going back as far as possible. I am also including all the Scottish kings. I have around 100 different rulers.
Here are a few Scottish coins:
Penny of John Balliol 1292-1196
Groat of James III 1460-1488
30 Shillings of James VI 1567-1625
Commonwealth:
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Henry VI trefoil-annulet/annulet issue mule penny
Maximinus II follis struck at the London mint
Edward I 1a farthing struck in debased silver (o.766 fine)
Victoria 1888 Jubilee head groat
Lead splash of the first pattern crown obverse produced after the introduction of the Jubilee Head in 1887, following which she was not amused. Much cheaper than buying one of the 4 known full coins in silver (2 types), and the obverse is the interesting bit because a regular currency reverse was used,
1700 Half Crown, PCGS MS63
1912-B Trade Dollar PCGS MS64+
Wow - Great coin congrats.
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Only a slight spoiler:
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GTG if you please.
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Given it was graded extremely fine in the sale, I'm going to guess unc details (graffiti).
I wondered where that went as McMillan is a gap in my list of attributed designers. Better keep an eye open for no.4 or any others that come to light.
I'm not seeing any graffiti on that coin. But this is the first time I'm seeing it. I did not see the sale photos. Is there some re-engraving at the top of the head (under the G)?
Looks MS62-ish to me, unless I am missing something.
Good spoon the re-engraving. The MODEL reverse or obverse on many of these Patterns seem to feature many traits, the engraving of numbers at the mint, and unfortunately a preservation of planchet issues including pre-strike and post strike contacts of various sorts. The actual pattern (obverse obviously - LOL) actually has very little wear although looks to have accumulated some grime in the devices of the King's portrait and in the lettering. Ear, hair, brow, cheekbone and nose free from hits. Honestly I would have trouble grading this coin. Additionally the engraving is rather sharp and though not of apparent proof quality, better than (IMO) standard currency strike fair; it did not grade specimen but I might have advised that if anybody asked.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Not a coin, but a token. It's interesting how the issuers went to great lengths to identify themselves and limit how the piece was intended to be used. This was issued during the coin shortage in England that Napoleon caused.