Deep Dish Die Caps!
Zoins
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Die caps are among my favorite errors. I just ran across this amazing coin which stopped me in my tracks!
Post any deep die caps you like in this thread!
1892-O Barber Dime - Deep Die Cap Error - PCGS AU55 - Ex. Mike Byers
This 1892 "Deep Dish" Die Cap Barber Dime is super deep and has a nice strike of the obverse. Is this the deepest Barber Dime die cap out there?
I like the angled side photos for die caps to show the depth. Would TrueView ever consider some additional angled side shots for coins like this?
Is there any additional known provenance for this coin? It's a pretty impressive coin so I'm hoping some history is known!
It's also pretty impressive that this is in such an old holder.
Update: added Byers provenance.
Photos courtesy of: blue989coins
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Does au55 imply that the die was circulated or the die cap was circulated? 🤔
Good point! Imagine spending that??
In the old days, I imagine it could have been spent as it is silver and silver was meant to be spent!
Zions- that New Orleans Barber Dime Obverse Die Cap was part of a set of obverse and reverse Barber Dime Die Caps from New Orleans that I owned for years! It has subsequently been split up.
Below is the link to the pair in my archive, and here is a picture of the pair.
https://mikebyers.com/barberdimepair.html
Wow, that’s amazing that you owned it as a mated pair Mike! This is a awesome piece and to have your provenance makes it even better! I’ll add your provenance to the OP!
Your linked article has good info. Is the mated reverse still the only one known?
It’s a shame they got separated! This really needs to be reunited with its other half and put in a PCGS dual holder with TrueViews!
Zions- I recall 1 or 2 other reverse die caps in the Barber Dime series.
Speaking of Barber Dime deep dish obverse Die Caps… here is another New Orleans Mint Cap that I owned for years, and it’s a very rare date/mintmark as well!
https://mikebyers.com/21037312.html
That's a great coin Mike!
1895-O Barber Dime, Obverse Die Cap Error - PCGS MS64 - Ex. Mike Byers; Andy Lustig; @Broadstruck; @MFH
This has been sold on Heritage twice, neither with your provenance, which would be nice to add.
This one has very stunning pull away toning!
1892-O Barber Dime, Obverse Die Cap Error - PCGS AU55 - Ex. Mike Byers
1892-O Barber Dime, Reverse Die Cap Brockage Error - PCGS AU55 - Ex. Mike Byers
The mated pair piece sold twice on Heritage. Nether lot description identified the year or provenance. If it comes up for sale again, I hope this information is included.
It's interesting that PCGS calls the 1892-O AU55 a Deep Die Cap and the 1895-O MS64 a Obverse Die Cap.
Does anyone know what criteria PCGS uses to call a die cap Deep?
Calling @FredWeinberg
Musta been some serious lag of strike to cause the depth and still eject the coin intact. Nice! Peace Roy
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I've seen a die cap created without a collar. It would be nice to see one created with a collar too!
It's really impressive to see happen. It would be great to have a video of one being created.
Those are certainly unique. I would like to actually hold one in hand to better understand the depth and analyze the metal form. Cheers, RickO
Here's a nice 1964 Deep Die Cap Cent from the @ErrorsOnCoins collection
I love the look and the year.
@ErrorsOnCoins can you comment on this coin in hand and even perhaps provide some angled photos to show the depth of the dish walls?
I agree. These really need to be held in hand to be fully appreciated.
Here's a Gallery Mint piece I picked up which is insane.
@Zoins ... Wow... that is incredible. Thanks for showing us... Cheers, RickO
Thanks Rick. It is incredible!
Here's a second Gallery Mint piece I have, which is split but also exciting to hold.
Both are from Ron Landis's personal collection, only recently released earlier this year.
Looks like it split on extraction... Maybe not, that is just a guess. Cheers, RickO
This year denomination set from Dickson Niew is super interesting. Is there any known year set available for US coins like this?
No photo's ever taken do the 1895-O MS-64 Barber Dime Die Cap any justice compared to what it looks like in hand. Provenance wise this Key Date Mint Error belonged to member MFH for a couple years as I brokered the deal for him with member/dealer MrEureka under the conditions it could spend a whole weekend with me.
Great info! It does look amazing in large Heritage photo above, but it only gives hints of what it would look like in person. Glad you got to hold on to it, if only for a little bit. Must have been a great experience!
Looks like we need to add Andy Lustig to the provenance list, along with forum member handles, all of whom have been added above. I wonder if it will ever make sense to list forum handles on provenance lists, like on auction lot descriptions.
Here's the only Mercury Dime Mint Error I now own as I recently sold all my others to one collector working on a date set who made me a "The Godfather" like "an offer he can't refuse".
This Die Cap is actually far rarer than the Barber Dimes as it's the only one known for the Mercury series. Now in PCGS MS64 I meet a previous owner when it was in a ANACS white chase holder. This is actually a Obverse Die Cap as for the series the mint used the hammer die to strike the reverse and the anvil die to strike the obverse. It has a full brockage reverse and fully split bands on both sides.
Very cool @Broadstruck ! That's an amazing error.
Looks like it's in an older PCGS holder:
Just stopping in to say how fun these die caps are to look at! I am not an error collector but really enjoy them... Keep them coming.
What an incredible coin @Broadstruck. As you say much rarer than the Barber dime caps, and I don't recall seeing another example that was a verifiable cap.
Here's the one in my collection - not too many off-metal die cap errors out there:
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That is awesome coin! Do you have any angled photos to show the depth of the dish?
Anyone know if a bi-centennial dollar exists? These two 1776-1976-D coins sold on August 19, 2021.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/market-analysis-coveted-1976-bicentennial-error-coins
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I think I have your reverse . . .
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Awesome piece @ZoidMeister!
They look great together!
@SullivanNumismatics Thanks!
I wasn't ready to part with this one as it's not replaceable.
Here's a super deep cent from Dave Wnuck. This one is really interesting for the depth and that it seems to have a lip around it. What caused the lip to form?
https://www.davewcoins.com/newsletter/making-the-grade-36-authenticating-coins-vs-modern-art-plus-the-one-that-got-away
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Here's another 1978 cent:
https://centennialauctions.com/striking-errors/
Zions- the unique Barber Quarter Obverse Die Cap was in my inventory for years and was one of my favorites:
https://mikebyers.com/5838146.html
Cool stuff. Every day I am amazed at what is out there. Thanks for posting all of these.
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Great coin Mike! It's nice to see this on a larger coin! Are any known for Barber half dollars?
Would you consider this part of the "Byers Collection"?
I love the 1898 Span-Am war date too!
Amazing coins.
Thanks to all for sharing.
So how do they escape?
Wayne
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Here's somewhat better pics of both the 95-O Dime and 98 Quarter taken when MFH owned both.
1898 was his Grandmothers birthyear and this Barber Quarter Die Cap started his inclusion of errors to his collection.
Broadstruck- I originally bought the Mercury Dime Die Cap RAW. Anacs slabbed it for me. It was corrected to say ‘obv die cap’, then eventually was slabbed by PCGS.
It’s traded hands many times. I owned it twice in an ANACS holder and twice in a PCGS holder.
It’s unique!
https://mikebyers.com/10759564.html
the type of stuff i love to see. thanks for sharing
1922-G German - Weimar Republic, 3 Mark, Die Cap Mint Error, 28mm Diameter, Aluminum.
I started my journey in this hobby as a young child living in Germany. So after I finishing a US mint error type set I started a German one. Although over 32 million 3 Mark's were struck between 1922-1923 I've only ever seen 3 other major mechanical errors which are all minor percentage off center. This is the only German die cap I've ever seen on denomination larger then 10 pfennig. With aluminum being such a soft metal it's amazing that not only this escaped the dies of the press and mint intact, but also remained undamaged since. Having been multi-struck the design elements on the obverse expanded and peripheral script moved up the walls as they mushroomed onto the die. This was in the personal collection of a German error dealer in Germany for over 30 years and we negotiated a deal for nearly a month until it was mine.
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Here are my deep die cap dime and penny.
Here's a neat two year type copper-nickel 1882 (dated on the outer wall) Mexican 5 Centavos Mint Error Die Cap with a attached interior lamination. What's left of the design that's not obliterated from being struck multiple times has such a strong resemblance to a U.S. Liberty Nickel.
Here is an extremely rare off- metal deep dish obverse die cap that I bought twenty years ago in a collection and sold it.
https://mikebyers.com/dimeoncentcap.html
Zoins - The 1895-O wasn't as deep as the other date Barber Dime,
as I recall, so that's one reason it doesn't say 'Deep' -
I used the term 'Deep' when I thought it was a deep, high-walled Cap;
for cents thru dollars too - judgement call, I know - and yes, you might
find a few Deep caps that don't have that word.....
Fred
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
@FredWeinberg
Speaking of deep caps- here are 2 Large Cent Obv Die Caps that are super deep! The 1847 barely fits, and the 1856 was too deep for the regular size holder at the time. I love the brockage on the reverse of the 1856. These 2 die caps were among the favorites that I bought and sold!
https://mikebyers.com/1770629-001.html
https://mikebyers.com/1856largecentcap.html
Expansion once clear of the collar perhaps.
These are amazing coins Mike!
1847 Large Cent - Error: Obverse Die Cap - NGC MS63BN - Ex. Mike Byers
This is a beautiful coin and just sold again few months ago with updated photos.
While you had it in a standard slab, it's been in the thick slab since at least 2011, so it looks like you owned it before that!
Both Stack's and Heritage really should list your provenance!
1856 Large Cent - Error: Obverse Die Cap - NGC MS63BN - Ex. Mike Byers
This is a very nice coin due to the mirror image of Lady Liberty on the reverse!
Of note, neither your archive or Stack's show a cert number right now.
This one is insane! A double denomination dime die cap struck on an already struck cent???
Are there any other cons like this or is this unique for a double denomination?
Angled photos of the inner side walls are needed when this surfaces again!
@Zions
I handled a third Large Cent Cap!
https://mikebyers.com/395068-004.html
Here's an impressive looking die cap in the Royal Australian Mints’ National Coin Collection.
https://www.australian-coins.com/error-coins/die-cap-coin-error/