1879-cc $1 pcgs ms63 counterfeit on ebay

joebb21

https://ebay.com/itm/403198268795?hash=item5de07d557b%3Ag%3AZIEAAOSwkEdhT2sA&LH_Auction=1

ifthevamzarockin

Photos and link to seller.

https://www.ebay.com/usr/gulfcoastfinds?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

gumby1234

The certification number checks out on PCGS. What makes this a counterfeit?

MsMorrisine

The capped die part is a dead giveaway

Fake coin in fake holder

gumby1234

From Coinfacts

MsMorrisine

Still

Not capped

Another problem that’s a circulated MS63

BillJones

@gumby1234 said:
The certification number checks out on PCGS. What makes this a counterfeit?

It does not have a capped die effect on the “CC” mint mark. Furthermore the Liberty on the obverse is puffed up under her eye which makes look like she lost a bar fight. There is also a lump in field in front of the bridge of her nose. The obverse does not look right.

This date and mint mark combination is know for bright, P-L fields, even on low Mint State coins. If you are familiar with the real thing, this is not a good fake.

LanceNewmanOCC

the era of these counterfeits and holders were starting to get pretty good. not sure what happened but it all seemed to fall apart, thankfully.

we've posted MANY of these on this forum over the years, that font/color of the insert is a dead giveaway. not the mention that lifeless turd of a coin that looks like it came from the digestive tract of a black rhino!

MsMorrisine

And there’s not a 63’s worth of contact marks

ifthevamzarockin

Broken E in EPU , dot between 1st & 2nd left star , rear label.

ricko

Listing is gone, so thanks for the pictures.... Cheers, RickO

mbogoman

The font on the label was off, too.

MsMorrisine

sellitstore

Yes, the insert is wrong but a thief might use older genuine inserts with switched genuine coins that just don't make the grade. That's another potential problem with counterfeit holders. Of course, then the certification numbers wouldn't check out but the holder and coin would be good, just not quite the advertised grade.

WAYNEAS

Thanks for the learning lesson.
I can see all the cons that have been noted.
So sad that the inexperienced collectors ( me) would have fallen prey to this dealer.
Can any additional information be provided on the hologram being fake?
Thanks in advance.
Wayne

LanceNewmanOCC

@ifthevamzarockin said:
Broken E in EPU , dot between 1st & 2nd left star , rear label.

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i like you think like a vammer because, well, you are a vammer!

good call on the broken E. - W O W Z A

braddick

If you want some fun read that seller's negative feedback (and the seller's responses)!

burfle23

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