Would PCGS straight grade these circ. bust coins?

These were from Mrs_Spuds great grandparents collection. I’m thinking of slabbing these 2 more to preserve them as family heirlooms than for resale purposes. But do you think the scratches would prevent them from being straight graded?
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Details grade with "SCRATCHES" noted on the label.
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Unfortunately I do not think they will be straight graded either.
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Both would Details Grade for Graffiti.
The 1817 is a wild looking overdate though, I like it!
Fortunately, you saved your money by asking here. I need to utilize the boards this way.
or get glasses.
...ditto post
I might still get the 1817 overdate slabbed anyway, just to preserve it and because it’s cool.
Mr_Spud
The scratches should and likely will prevent a straight grade.
You might but is the price worth a gamble of "DETAILS" ?? I think that coin will sell the same whether slabbed or not.
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I hope not. Really, really hope not. However, somehow I sense the 17/3 might have a shot for a net graded straight grade if the day is just cold enough
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Buy some of the do it yourself slabs and put them in .
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Since you do not intend to sell them, why not self slab. The slabs are available in coin shops/shows or online...and you can put your own label in it, indicating the family history. A really nice way to detail family heirlooms. Cheers, RickO
Not even NNC or Numistrust would straight grade those.
Do you really think there’s a chance that the coin would pass at PCGS or NGC with that much intentional graffiti? How about just engraving the grade onto the coin.
Both would be "genuine". The scratches are obvious and eliminate any chance of their being straight graded.
No way, Jose.
Dave
No.
Anytime you marks with pattern or any mark that looks excessive or intentional, don’t buy it if you want it to get a grade.
No.
No.
No.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Not a chance.
Perfect coin to keep raw IMO.
What further damage do you imagine they might incur out in the wild?
What a family heirloom! You can actually take it out and hold in your hand. 👍
Also, that 17/3 is still worth a few bucks... even in that condition.
Can a series of random scratches really be considered to be "Graffiti"?
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Yes as not everyone is a Picasso and both have doohicky designs scratched into the obverse.
Thanks everyone. I had been wondering if they let some older coins slide through with scratches, like they did with one of my favorite coins that not only got straight graded but also got a CAC sticker. This one with what looks like an upside down A scratched into the coin right in front of Liberty’s neck. I purchased it in a recent Legend Regency auction and I really like it and so did the underbidders even though the auction description said “We note a light "A" formed from a couple of wispy scratches on the obverse, noted for accuracy. Obviously the eye appeal was not affected too badly to preclude grading or CAC approval”.
Did they let this one slide through with what could be called graffiti because the toning camouflages it or something like that? Well, anyway, this coin was what got me thinking that they might let older bust coins slide in regards to scratches on a circulated coin.



Mr_Spud
That 1831 quarter isn't even close to an AU58. I would grade it XF45 details, scratched.