@billwaltonsbeard said:
This longwinded, BS post is just saying 'PSA deserves their cut'. Thanks for sharing
yes its extremely easy to cattle call your verbiage. in the real world it costs more to service a mercedes than it does a kia, filet is more than ground chuck and insurance is based off value/risk. plus, i hadnt checked in a while, but last time i did, psa was not a non-profit. psa doesnt “deserve” their cut. their entitled to it. dont like it, great. thats your right. shoo then and best of luck. stop whining.
the real kicker here is how in the world can you give someone grief about comc shipping times when they dont tell you how long it will be until AFTER you purchased and request a shipment. your condescending remark was that “it tells you before you check out for the shipping charge”, right? which it does do…AFTER youve already purchased. but this is all fine and well. the absolute ironic part about your argument is that you now, all of a sudden, want to move the goal posts about psa and it’s TOS. hilarious, mr. kettle pot. ill finally point out that you have a link to your comc cards in your signature. so really youre actually just trying to protect your own wallet here and your vast amount of dead inventory listed there bc everyone sees comc for what it is lately. and thats an absolute joke of a mess. sorry youre back on hot dogs.
however w psa and completely unlike comc, its written right there in their terms of service exactly what will transpire PRIOR to subbing the card, shipping it off or before it even gets looked at should your card be deemed a higher value than what it was subbed at.
this is the exact opposite of what happens w/ comc bc they dont tell you it wont be 3 months to ship a card that you purchased a month ago and just let sit in your portal until AFTER youve purchased it and request a shipment. only then does it tell you that you can either pay a ridiculous amount to have it shipped in a proper timeframe OR a reasonable rate and “we’ll get to it when we get to it”. guess what, that’s a comc upcharge BUT just for shipping! certainly not for anything that adds value like a psa upcharge. its easy to see you are only worried about your wallet and screw everybody else, right? hilarious. actually its even more than hilarious. its sad. and old.
and with that, im officially done w you. you just like to argue and conveniently but absurdly change the narrative to fit your particular agenda. whats good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander unless you say so. cant have it both ways, no matter who you argue with. and apparently thats everybody here.
@tonylags said:
I'm still curious what if you can't afford the upcharges or need more time to pay; do they give it to you?
Graygator (michael) answered this for you:
If you can’t or won’t pay the up charge, they send it back ungraded and charge you for the service level you originally sent it at.
(throwing out a scenario, my math on fees will not be exact. just a generalization)
im a little more interested in how much time they give you to come up w said funds. say a collector subs a 100 card bulk sub @ $20/. one of the cards ends up getting a gem @ a $10k valuation, another 3 cards at a $5k valuation and now the sub fee went from $2100 w shipping and insurance to an unexpected $4200 total sub fee. its christmas plus his wife is already busting his poptarts about what he’s spending on his collection already. another $2k simply isnt exactly or immediately feasible at the flick of pen or as easy as the email response requiring approval. whats the timeframe a customer has to approve and then pay said charges? will they hold til his next paycheck, credit card cycle, the divorce or what?
long story short, whats the psa protocol & time limits if someone obviously wants to pay the upcharge but financially just isnt prepared to? are we talking a “two weeks or else” scenario? a payment plan option or what?
i can see this happening with a young collector and some of these modern cards that go for boo-coos, the avg joe collector who stumbles across a mint collection and lands a bunch of vintage 10s or even someone who has inherited a collection and doesnt really know the first thing about subbing but was advised to “not be a fool, you must get the stuff graded first”.
What if the 10's APR's are based on PWCC eBay auctions? Must be nice to make bank on fraud committed by others.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
@tonylags said:
I'm still curious what if you can't afford the upcharges or need more time to pay; do they give it to you?
Graygator (michael) answered this for you:
If you can’t or won’t pay the up charge, they send it back ungraded and charge you for the service level you originally sent it at.
(throwing out a scenario, my math on fees will not be exact. just a generalization)
im a little more interested in how much time they give you to come up w said funds. say a collector subs a 100 card bulk sub @ $20/. one of the cards ends up getting a gem @ a $10k valuation, another 3 cards at a $5k valuation and now the sub fee went from $2100 w shipping and insurance to an unexpected $4200 total sub fee. its christmas plus his wife is already busting his poptarts about what he’s spending on his collection already. another $2k simply isnt exactly or immediately feasible at the flick of pen or as easy as the email response requiring approval. whats the timeframe a customer has to approve and then pay said charges? will they hold til his next paycheck, credit card cycle, the divorce or what?
long story short, whats the psa protocol & time limits if someone obviously wants to pay the upcharge but financially just isnt prepared to? are we talking a “two weeks or else” scenario? a payment plan option or what?
i can see this happening with a young collector and some of these modern cards that go for boo-coos, the avg joe collector who stumbles across a mint collection and lands a bunch of vintage 10s or even someone who has inherited a collection and doesnt really know the first thing about subbing but was advised to “not be a fool, you must get the stuff graded first”.
What if the 10's APR's are based on PWCC eBay auctions?
good point. was the durant based on a pwcc auction?
just asking in generalization if it was bc thats something psa should definitely reconsider bc that would be a terrible backfire and super easy to paint a terrible picture. i know this whole thread has devolved in to the exact opposite of where you thought it would go. for the record, i woulda subbed at the exact same level as you had. i forget if i had, but if i hadnt congratulations on the score and a big nod on the juevos to go big on a raw durant rookie like that in this day and age. never an easy decision and had to be a grinding two weeks from purchase to popping. so kudos there. hope the crossover benefits you as well.
Of course collector’s don’t spend this kind of money on these cards, speculators/investors do. For $14k just think what kind of vintage you could buy. IMHO Durant is one of those players that will be quickly forgotten once he quits.
@ElvisP said:
Of course collector’s don’t spend this kind of money on these cards, speculators/investors do. For $14k just think what kind of vintage you could buy. IMHO Durant is one of those players that will be quickly forgotten once he quits.
There isn't any data to back this up. You sound like a modern hater and I would assume you are not a big NBA fan that probably didn't watch much of the playoffs. Durant single handily put the Nets on his back and almost carried them to the Finals. If his toe wasn't one inch across the 3 point line he would have eliminated the eventually champion Bucks.
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@ElvisP said:
Of course collector’s don’t spend this kind of money on these cards, speculators/investors do. For $14k just think what kind of vintage you could buy. IMHO Durant is one of those players that will be quickly forgotten once he quits.
He isn't my favorite current player either. However, first ballot HOF players aren't normally forgotten quickly, which is what he will most likely become after he "quits".
After all, he is 2X Finals MVP, 2X NBA Champion, 1X NBA MVP, 4X scoring champ, etc. Numbers don't lie.
the funny thing about this is that kevin durant himself is part of the group that bought goldin auctions. so pretty sure even kevin durant believes collectors buy kevin durant cards. hard to be forgotten w/ his accomplishments, him actually being involved in the sports card world and that statement.
He also partnered with Weedmaps. I heard Blake Griffin on a podcast talk about how Durant is completely unphased by any defender. It all makes sense now.
@Kyser said:
He also partnered with Weedmaps. I heard Blake Griffin on a podcast talk about how Durant is completely unphased by any defender. It all makes sense now.
…and how he missed the three point line against the Bucks?
He was like ‘Funyuns…’
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@Kyser said:
13540635 2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractors Orange Kevin Durant Does Not Meet Minimum Grade 0.0 NG
BGS said no deals. It will remain a PSA 9.
Bah, maybe for now. Once prices go back down send that sucker in every year. Three times is the charm if after three times it doesn't bump then I would give up.
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What if the 10's APR's are based on PWCC eBay auctions? Must be nice to make bank on fraud committed by others.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
good point. was the durant based on a pwcc auction?
and @kyser
just asking in generalization if it was bc thats something psa should definitely reconsider bc that would be a terrible backfire and super easy to paint a terrible picture. i know this whole thread has devolved in to the exact opposite of where you thought it would go. for the record, i woulda subbed at the exact same level as you had. i forget if i had, but if i hadnt congratulations on the score and a big nod on the juevos to go big on a raw durant rookie like that in this day and age. never an easy decision and had to be a grinding two weeks from purchase to popping. so kudos there. hope the crossover benefits you as well.
Of course collector’s don’t spend this kind of money on these cards, speculators/investors do. For $14k just think what kind of vintage you could buy. IMHO Durant is one of those players that will be quickly forgotten once he quits.
There isn't any data to back this up. You sound like a modern hater and I would assume you are not a big NBA fan that probably didn't watch much of the playoffs. Durant single handily put the Nets on his back and almost carried them to the Finals. If his toe wasn't one inch across the 3 point line he would have eliminated the eventually champion Bucks.
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He isn't my favorite current player either. However, first ballot HOF players aren't normally forgotten quickly, which is what he will most likely become after he "quits".
After all, he is 2X Finals MVP, 2X NBA Champion, 1X NBA MVP, 4X scoring champ, etc. Numbers don't lie.
the funny thing about this is that kevin durant himself is part of the group that bought goldin auctions. so pretty sure even kevin durant believes collectors buy kevin durant cards. hard to be forgotten w/ his accomplishments, him actually being involved in the sports card world and that statement.
He also partnered with Weedmaps. I heard Blake Griffin on a podcast talk about how Durant is completely unphased by any defender. It all makes sense now.
…and how he missed the three point line against the Bucks?
He was like ‘Funyuns…’
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I just got an email about a Dan Marino private signing that reminded me of this thread.
The fee is $349 to sign any trading card other than his rookie card. To sign his rookie card the fee is $699.
Pictures with his Super Bowl ring?
Free!!!
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Absolutely insane and not worth the money. Would much rather have one of his issued cards.
I agree. Marino should be ashamed of himself!
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LACES OUT DAN!
I hope the OP will post a scan/pic when the card is received.
13540635 2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractors Orange Kevin Durant Does Not Meet Minimum Grade 0.0 NG
BGS said no deals. It will remain a PSA 9.
Bah, maybe for now. Once prices go back down send that sucker in every year. Three times is the charm if after three times it doesn't bump then I would give up.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.