1796 Is this coin genuine or counterfeit
Mr_Spud
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I’m asking for a coworker. He said a friend of his showed him these coins and he’s trying to find out if the 1796 is real or not. Supposedly the friend was a Valet and received it as a tip about 35 years ago. I know what I think, but want to hear what the forum says
Mr_Spud
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Pretty sure it is a counterfeit
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Yes it is a poor quality counterfeit. The Walking Liberty half dollar in the picture is also fake.
I'm 1,000 percent sure it's a fake. See below:
Draped Bust "dollar": not genuine.
Walking Liberty Half Dollar: genuine.
Standing Liberty Quarter: genuine.
And I am wondering if it's really 35 years old.
"Supposedly the friend was a Valet and received it as a tip about 35 years ago. "
Are you sure he didn't say 35 days ago?! That looks like the ones that show up on ebay from 0 feedback sellers.
Yes, it's a genuine counterfeit.
Very crude fake. Typical of the counterfeits coming out of China these days. I've seen them for sale at flea markets.
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if @jedm picture is the real deal, the OP's picture shows... the WRONG NUMBER OF STARS on the obverse?!!? besides the wrong size and position of stars and other things, why would counterfeiter put the wrong number of stars?
Someone has been to the swap meet.
Fake. Why? Dentils and edge are wrong, obv stars too small, numerals wrong font - style and size, portrait not even close, lettering font wrong...and no heraldic eagle until 1798
Buying the Bowers early dollar book The Encyclopedia of United States Silver Dollars 1794-1804 would educate a person enough to easily identify this as a fake.
The 1796 "dollar" is definitely a counterfeit.
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Thanks, I knew it was fake too, but I wanted unbiased confirmation for my coworker
Mr_Spud
The date alone jumps out at you. Counterfeit.
Jim
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A very poor fake.
Not. Even. Close.
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Fake. Is there supposed to be 15 stars? I'm not sure and an wondering
CoinFacts lists a 13 star version, but not for this date. The 13 star version was in 1798
Mr_Spud
So what did he do to deserve this kind of tip? Did he scratch the BMW?
Mark
Among many other red flags, the date is WAY too big.
FAKE FAKE FAKE!!
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Ah! Maybe it is a genuine 1798, with a mint error on the date! Even MORE RARE and VALUABLE!
1796 is too big? They only started making them in 1794, so it can't be that far off...
Wrong cup size.........
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Clumsy, poorly executed counterfeit.I have no more to say on the matter.
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Laughable.
Lance.
collar struck, for one thing. Portrait is so bad it made me crack up.
The one you want to be good is a poor fake.
As soon as I saw the portrait, I knew it was fake.... then, of course, the other issues. Cheers, RickO
Bad, not even close to the real thing. Amateur night for the worst of the counterfeiters.
Revised to add, here is an example of the real thing.
100 % fake
BHNC #203