Can anyone tell what’s so special with my ANA purchase?
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Here is my new Bust Half dollar from the ANA. Can anyone tell what’s so special about this coin. Reveal to come later.
Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
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Both the obverse and reverse dies are rotated 90 degrees?
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I dont know varieties without looking up, but looks like some sort of misplaced digit by rim under bust. The rim denticles also seem to be diff there
The great 1825 reeded edge experiment.
Well…….
Neil is right that I didn’t orient my photos well….
No misplaced digit…..
The edge is reeded, but that is not the “real” answer…….
Next????????
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
The coin is well worn including the dentils, but the edge reeding is sharp from a later alteration. Magicians coin?
edit - not able to attribute to 1825 - fake?
edit #2 Obverse is close to OBV. 2 Fake from transfer of 1825 obv 2, and reverse fake die from transfer of non-1825 year?
Looks counterfeit to me? Just basing that off a gut feel, surfaces look very wonky.
EDIT: Yeah that die gouge under the bust from the denticles inwards is a dead giveaway.
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Getting a little closer…..
Not “counterfeit”.
1825 Obverse 2, 1827 Reverse F and not a new DM.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
This is a total guess.....
An unauthorized private restrike using genuine mint dies over a later dated reeded edge half dollar.
Not a private restrike….good guess
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
No clue but I am intrigued.
The 1825 Obverse 2 was used on 3 DM's, since the edge lettering is gone and the "coin" is worn, the emission order can't be determined to place the 1825 DM.
The 1827 Reverse F was used on 1827 O.106.
The "coin" was made from an 1827 O.106 with the obverse machined flat on a 3 axis mill, hand ground to a surface roughness of Ra 8. The "other side" was made from an 1825 O.102, O.103, or O.104 (O.102 is most probable) with the reverse design machined off same process as 1827 O.106. The two remaining halves of the half dollars were fused together (several methods to accomplish this), and the reeded edge was applied. Not sure why someone would do this other than the challenge of doing it as to be undetectable.
Is it a pop-up locket coin?
I've seen this done to Columbian half dollars yet not a bust half.
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Yes, it could be a locket from two halves machined out. The half side would not be fused in that case.
edit - an edge profile view could determine that - a locket would have greater thickness.
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A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Cool!
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Fascinating!
Let's sick @ColonelJessup on you! That's a Box Half Dollar!
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edited to add: The more I think about how this thread developed, the more I like it. Bravo to the OP
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Oh ok now that's cool!! Didn't think of that.
yeah you can put your weed in there man
Some pretty fine workmanship there.
Curious to know what something like that is worth.
Very nice - talented Machine work
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That's cool.
Wow that is a neat item!
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Does anyone still make these using coins such as ASE's or Morgan dollars?
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A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Bust halves are exceedingly rare. A previous owner paid Stephen Tannenbaum $2000 in 2001.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
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That is cool, I have had trade dollars like that , but never seen on a bust half
Very cool!
Very cool I was thinking a spy coin , but most were true to real . As one wouldn't want to give away a secret coin by a mistake like a different edge . Cool find would love to own one myself.
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Very nice. I have never had a coin locket. I did get a hollowed out British penny once... given to me by a friend of my wife. She knew I collected coins so brought me this 'old coin' she had. While I was looking at it, it came apart in my hand, and there was a Kennedy half inside. She never knew that. I still have it. Cheers, RickO
I can't imagine what this went for!
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Fantastic. I'd love to watch someone make one of these. Seems like plenty of work.
That is ac magicians prop. The half dollar appears out of nowhere.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Great pickup Brad!
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Seriously, some very nice craftsmanship to make a locket.
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Kennedys are my quest...
Any idea on when that might have been made? Neat
I believe they began turning up around the time of the World’s Colombian Exposition.
Do any of the token collectors have any information?
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.