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Sold my collection - and bought one coin

savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

Except for my core registry set of Seated Dimes and few small things I received as gifts, I sold it all. Like many of us here, my collection began when I was about 8 years old and grew quite a bit over the years. I decided to let it all go. Why? Two reasons, really. First, it is sort of a Zen thing. These objects are just stuff, and our relationship with these objects is impermanent. It can be taken from us in so many ways. I think there is something healthy in being able to let go. The second reason is that I have often had a fantasy about selling my collection and buying one big coin. So I did it.

Selling the Collection

The story of all the trials and tribulations of selling a collection could take up a book chapter, so I’ll just summarize. To dispose of the first half or so I used a wide variety of venues: eBay, the BST forum, local coin shows, national coin shows, a local dealer, and a local auction house. Hundreds of coins, most raw, some slabs, proof sets, mint sets, modern commems, etc. The “stuff” most of us have lying around. FYI: I got the best returns from BST, closely followed by eBay, then shows and auctions.

The second half of the collection was much harder to part with, emotionally. I was down to my treasured Dansco albums: Peace Dollars, Buffalo Nickels, and a nearly complete Type Set. I worked for years on those sets and selling them coin-by-coin would feel like death by a thousand cuts. So I hesitated for quite a while. In a moment of exceptional fortitude I stuffed the albums in a Priority Mail box and sent them off to an auction house. I left some money on the table doing it that way but it was like ripping off a Band-Aid. No second guessing. No dragging it out. It was done.

After all was totaled up I realized about 88% of Greysheet for the whole collection and I’m pretty comfortable with that. I learned that coins worth more than about $300 were easy to sell and fetched 95%-110% of Greysheet, coins worth less than $300 realized significantly less.

One Big Coin

Now comes the fun part. Buying my One Big Coin. What was it going to be? After selling all that “stuff” the proceeds were not enough for my dream coins (nor did I expect them to be), such as a really nice Chain Cent, or Small Eagle Bust Half, or Gobrecht Dollar. I could have purchased a relatively low grade example of any of those but I didn’t want to my One Big Coin to be just OK. I wanted something special to me that somehow would be befitting of the collection I let go.

I guess you could say I’m a Seated Dime guy so I started looking in that direction. Now with Seated Dimes I had the opposite problem; except for the unique 73-CC No Arrows there are no obvious mind-blowing dates. All seated dimes are scarce in nicer, unadulterated condition, and a few I would call rare, but something really special isn’t easy to identify. I considered a proof 1837 No Stars as that would be quite an awesome coin, but for some reason it just didn’t speak to me. While absent-mindedly browsing an auction catalogue at a firm I usually don’t pay much attention to, lightning struck. The likely price was spot on the proceeds from my collection, and it is unquestionably unique in its way. Damn the torpedoes, this one was going to be mine. A Coin World article about the coin is available here. It is probably the only “famous” coin I will ever own.

I am fascinated by treasure. Buried treasure, sunken treasure, ancient coin hoards, King Tut’s tomb, all of it. This is my little piece of treasure. It is the 1856-S dime from the S.S. Central America Shipwreck. It is the finest silver coin recovered from the wreck and astonishingly the finest 1856-S dime in existence. The dime boarded the S.S. Sonora in San Francisco on August 20, 1857 along with $1.6 million in freshly minted gold coins, ingots, and nuggets as well as 578 passengers and crew. The ship arrived in Panama City where the cargo was unloaded and passengers disembarked. They were transported overland across the isthmus of Panama to Aspinwall, where the passengers and gold boarded the awaiting S.S. Central America. The ship had nearly reached its destination in New York City when the sidewheel steamer ran into a hurricane off the coast of the Carolinas on September 9. By the morning of September 11 her sails were shredded, her boilers had failed, and the ship was taking on water. Just after 8pm that day a tremendous wave struck the vessel, shattering her timbers. The S.S. Central America slipped beneath the sea and came to rest 8,000 feet below the surface along with 425 lives, the now-sunken treasure, and this 1856-S seated dime.

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2021 5:22AM

    Wow major coin. That coin sold in a Goldberg auction last September was that you ?
    BTW I just bought a 1857-S $20 original gold label that slept somewhere near your coin. Same fascination with the shipwreck and how these coins survived in such condition

  • Spud2020Spud2020 Posts: 61 ✭✭✭

    Just WOW.

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Wayne

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  • FreeThinkerFreeThinker Posts: 56 ✭✭✭

    First, it is sort of a Zen thing. These objects are just stuff, and our relationship with these objects is impermanent. >

    In other words, we really don't "own" these objects, but simply their caretakers for a while. Nice.

    ... and very nice coin, by the way.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve entertained a similar fantasy. Maybe in ten years I’ll do the same and get a Gobrecht dollar. Figure bigger is better for the eyes. :)

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    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on a wonderful big coin! That level of consolidation takes patience and guts and must be very satisfying to finally cross off a long-sought-after goal.

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  • nagsnags Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations! Cool history attached to that one.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savitale said:
    FYI: I got the best returns from BST, closely followed by eBay, then shows and auctions.

    Useful information!

    Great story, and you have a refreshing attitude about it all. I've fanaticized about doing something similar, but we'll see if someday that urge strikes. I already know what the "one coin" would be. Marvelous coin, and the story is legendary.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one!

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very nice box of one coin, congrats.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really really nice coin, congratulations!

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow. A coin that unique is very special. Congratulations.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Spud2020 said:
    Just WOW.

    Yes, I second that. WOW!
    Congratulations
    What a Beautiful Coin, dude, and all it's history. Good choice. :)

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  • JMS1223JMS1223 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s awesome. Love that idea of selling off the majority of your collection and getting one really awesome coin! Nice display holder too. Anyone that sees that will know exactly what it is.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that has to rank with the best stories ever told on the forum. Thanks for sharing. What a gorgeous coin, without the provenance, but with the provenance on top of it's beauty---Wow. Can't imagine a better collection replacement selection.
    Congratulations.
    Jim


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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow... that's some "next level" stuff! Nice!! Really Nice!!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I were to sell my coins - and the thought crossed my mind as something I may due in my later years - I would likely go a similar route... BST, travel to a show, etc. Not sure what I would do with the proceeds, probably not buy a coin though. Such a divestiture would be a permanent change for me. Cheers, RickO

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice coin. Congrats!

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post of the year material, right there.
    This is the forum at it's finest.

    Thank you and congratulations!

    -Mark

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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  • CaptainBluntCaptainBlunt Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    Cool coin
    The entire mintage was delivered from the SFBM’s Coiner to the Treasurer on December 22nd 1856
    Must have been minted late in the year

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quality like that is far, far superior to quantity. Congratulations on an incredible coin.

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  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2021 1:05PM

    I like what you did. Quality over quantity, you basically got rid of 100"s of possibly meh coins and traded for one big one. Congrats on a smart move and much more enjoyable in the end.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a super nice coin and accomplishment!
    The question now becomes: is it, in reality, your last coin purchase?

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great story - I admire your success with your project! And I have always liked the 1856-S dime with its great big mint mark. Yours is a superb coin.

  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭✭

    What a great post, and an even better coin. Congrats.

    I have always fantasized about doing this.

    Collecting since 1976.
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A great journey and written account and another “WOW” from this reader.
    Thank you for sharing.
    That is one GREAT new consolidated collection masterpiece as well!
    Congratulations on a job well done.

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  • MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome story and awesome coin!!!

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  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭

    Hat's off to you Sir!
    Excellent story and excellent choice.
    M

    Collecting Peace Dollars and Modern Crap.
  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Riveting and compelling story. Thank you for sharing your process and your absolutely stunning acquisition!

    I recently purchased a one of a kind medallion which cost more than my current automobile. I will also be sharing this story when I have received it. There were many similarities to your saga.

    Tim

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting story - thanks for posting.

    Vplite99
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well ... at least it has a sticker! ;)

    Congratulations!

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  • VicPortlandVicPortland Posts: 285 ✭✭✭

    I did something similar to get down from hundreds to around 40. Then pared down further and bought myself an 1856 Flying Eagle cent. I have been targeting a box of 20, but who knows, maybe I will take the final step and get down to a box of 1. Thanks for sharing your story.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    awesome coin. some times ya just gotta do it

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I was collecting baseball cards I thought about doing this and buying an iconic baseball card like the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle rookie, but I couldn't do it.

    Congrats to you for having the guts to go through with your dream. You've inspired me and maybe some day when I retire I will sell everything to buy one coin.

    Donato

    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • HenryOHenryO Posts: 80 ✭✭✭

    Loved your comment about the zen thing, really spoke to me.... I love history as much (or more) than coins themselves. I remember reading "Ship of Gold in the Deep Blue Sea" a number of years ago, your post makes me want to go back and re read it. And think about the meaning behind the "madness"

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hellova story and a Hellofa coin to end up with! Congrats, it's been on my mind often enough over the years. I don't know how or when I will ever just do it, but it must feel pretty good now that it's done.

  • dan_marinellidan_marinelli Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    I approve of your actions and I love the coin! I wish I were that brave. I can't even slice off the lower half of my collection (heap) and buy one really nice coin. My kids are going to hate me!

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  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great story, very entertaining, and a very exciting coin with an amazing story itself! Congrats on the purchase. She's a frosty little devil!

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, way cool, congrats! Do you know where the other 65 resides?

    I often will sell a group of widgets to purchase one more pricey piece....but I’ve never sold the whole farm for just one. Bold move.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2021 11:59AM

    Thanks for sharing your story.

    Although when I saw the title, I thought it meant you sold your complete LS Dime variety set!
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1033397/whew-seated-dime-variety-set-is-finally-complete
    Maybe "I sold half my collection" might be more accurate?

    Or did you mean you sold the varieties, and just kept a date/mint mark set?

    Good work on the downsizing!

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the Coin World article about the coin:

    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/1856-s-seated-liberty-dime-in-ss-central-america-treasure-haul

    And Goldberg's Sept, 2020 Auction of the coin: https://www.coinnews.net/2020/08/21/goldbergs-september-2020-sale-features-s-s-central-america-shipwreck-coins/

    Note: It is the second coin mentioned, with picture.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic post and fantastic coin! Congrats! 👍🏻

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  • Bruce7789Bruce7789 Posts: 397 ✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin, great story. Enjoy!

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2021 1:39PM

    @trueblood said:
    I like what you did. Quality over quantity, you basically got rid of 100"s of possibly meh coins and traded for one big one. Congrats on a smart move and much more enjoyable in the end.

    Quantity is it’s own form of quality.

    That is a hell of a coin, amazing it doesn’t suffer salt damage and a true condition census too boot. Not some MS68 Mercury dime that looks basically identical to many of the 67s which are common

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great story and a super-cool Seated dime purchase.

    It straight graded, too, as it suffered no 'shipwreck effect' that silver coins often do.

    Beautiful, historic, heirloom piece. B)

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that's really something. I really like the slab presentation too. Amazing that they could recover these coins from the purser's safe without damaging them.

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