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There are no "right" answers to the following hypothetical questions!

braddickbraddick Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

If you had to guess strictly, what would be your best estimate based on your experience and knowledge of the value of the following coins?

Say, for example, PCGS graded the first RED 1909-S VDB in MS69 (and it was true MS69); what do you believe would be the value of such a coin?

How about a PCGS MS68 1970-D Kennedy half?

A true MS70 1943 steel cent?

A first-ever MS69 Peace dollar?

I know a lot would depend on the date, so let's make it easy and state it is a Philly mint- common date.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    I think they'd all be worth somewhere between 150 Kelvin and 97.5 Celsius. And I'm proud to show just how not right an answer to this question can be.

    Thank you for proving my point!
    Now. . . had I titled this thread, "There are no "wrong" answers..." I'd be in trouble.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @airplanenut said:
    I think they'd all be worth somewhere between 150 Kelvin and 97.5 Celsius. And I'm proud to show just how not right an answer to this question can be.

    Thank you for proving my point!
    Now. . . had I titled this thread, "There are no "wrong" answers..." I'd be in trouble.

    Sometimes I just think, "what could I say to make this guy's statement valid?"

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    markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2021 9:28AM

    For a red Ms 69 1909-s vdb I would say take it to an auction and see how much it sells for.
    All the others are also first, I would also put it up for auction

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about a MS70FB CAC 1939-D Merc? There are 24 in PCGS MS69FB. Maybe one day?

    MS69RD 1909S VDB cent and 1943 MS70 cents would be something I would like to see too.

    You would be looking at 6 figures but how deep into the 6 figures would depend on how many deep pocket people “needed” those registry points I guess.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin #1: $97,478.67
    Coin #2: $135,798.46
    Coin #3: $258,679.12
    Coin #4: One Million Dollars!
    :)

    I wouldn't be the buyer.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,527 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    I think they'd all be worth somewhere between 150 Kelvin and 97.5 Celsius. And I'm proud to show just how not right an answer to this question can be.

    absolute-ly

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But to answer your question for real and not try to derail your thread, I have no idea of actual numbers, but I imagine the 09S-VDB, steel cent, and Peace dollar would blow the next lower grade's price out of the water, the Peace dollar in particular because of how big it is and therefore how perfect it would look to garner a 69. Those two series have enough prestige and big money that someone who wants to definitely own the best will pay way up.

    As far as the JFK, I'm sure someone with a set will want it and pay big money, but I think only JFK collectors would be interested, while the other coins could have non specialists interested in the best example. Plus, the steel cent and Peace dollar are types that don't exist in the grade (granted steel is a one-year subtype), while the JFK is a date/condition combination rarity, which I think makes it that much less desirable to someone not working on the series (that's different from the 09S-VDB because the latter is such a popular coin in US collecting).

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    jomjom Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Coin #1: $97,478.67
    Coin #2: $135,798.46
    Coin #3: $258,679.12
    Coin #4: One Million Dollars!

    Wrong! Everyone knows that Coin #3 is: $258,679.57
    Please be more accurate in the future otherwise don't bother posting such misleading values.

    jom

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    WCCWCC Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:
    What about a MS70FB CAC 1939-D Merc? There are 24 in PCGS MS69FB. Maybe one day?

    MS69RD 1909S VDB cent and 1943 MS70 cents would be something I would like to see too.

    You would be looking at 6 figures but how deep into the 6 figures would depend on how many deep pocket people “needed” those registry points I guess.

    24 MS-69 FB is unbelievable. Give it time and with "gradeflation", one of each coin listed in the OP will be in these holders.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    1909-S VDB $1,020,000*
    Peace dollar $480,000*

    *Estimates do not take into account any significant decline in the price of copper or silver.😉

    Does that include the buyer's premium and sales tax?

    What about shipping?

    :)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2021 11:37AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:
    1909-S VDB $1,020,000*
    Peace dollar $480,000*

    *Estimates do not take into account any significant decline in the price of copper or silver.😉

    Does that include the buyer's premium and sales tax?

    What about shipping?

    :)

    I thought it would be obvious to you that those prices included the buyer’s premium, but (if applicable) neither tax nor shipping charges. I’m deeply disappointed in you.🙁

    😉

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm pretty sure we'll see several MS69 and even MS70 Peace dollars this year.

    Of course, if you mean dollars dated 1921-1935, I think it would depend. If it was a known coin (there are only two MS68 Peace dollars), it would probably sell for a small premium over what it sold for before. If it was a previously unknown coin, it would maybe sell for $400-600k, but it would depend a little on which whales were in attendance.

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2021 5:48PM

    @CaptHenway said:
    "42" is always the right answer!

    With occasional anomalies like '43 copper pennies. o:)

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all. I wanted a light-hearted, fun thread, and you provided that for me.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    If you had to guess strictly, what would be your best estimate based on your experience and knowledge of the value of the following coins?
    ...
    A first-ever MS69 Peace dollar?

    If it’s not a 2021, is super toned and sold by Legend, the moon’s the limit!

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $1.52?

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    $1.52?

    I agree. Face value is $1.52. :)
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2021 5:53PM

    .> @WAYNEAS said:

    @Smudge said:
    $1.52?

    I agree. Face value is $1.52. :)
    Wayne

    Late breaking news... silver has surged waaaaaaay over $1.29/oz

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    BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One bid over the underbidder on all of them. B)

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I remember right Click n Clack used to say the answer is "2".

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    There are no "right" answers to the following hypothetical questions!

    I think we have the "right" answer!

    @Smudge said:
    $1.52?

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2021 7:57PM

    How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? How many bobbles are there in a bar of soap? Such questions cannot be answered because virtually all of those items don’t exist.

    If they did, how high would two registry crazed billionaires be willing to pay? Check out the first two sentences in the lead paragraph.

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    Mdcoincollector2003Mdcoincollector2003 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d give you 20 bucks

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    If you had to guess strictly, what would be your best estimate based on your experience and knowledge of the value of the following coins?

    Say, for example, PCGS graded the first RED 1909-S VDB in MS69 (and it was true MS69); what do you believe would be the value of such a coin?

    How about a PCGS MS68 1970-D Kennedy half?

    A true MS70 1943 steel cent?

    A first-ever MS69 Peace dollar?

    I know a lot would depend on the date, so let's make it easy and state it is a Philly mint- common date.

    We could make it easier and just ask people to rank in value from most to least.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "We could make it easier and just ask people to rank in value from most to least."

    That would have led to another set of whimsical and silly responses.

    peacockcoins

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I open my original rolls of '43 steel cents, well... it could happen. However, it is more fun to think about it, then to open them and be disappointed. Cheers, RickO

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