This is a great coin posted by Mike @Byers in another thread, but when looking at this, I found myself wondering if it should be classified as a dime or a cent?
@MWallace said:
It says "ONE DIME". No where does it say "ONE CENT". Just throwing that out there.
Oooh...that’s a good point. I voted cent (and agree with myself) but it is denominated as a dime.
I’m still thinking that the “ONE DIME” can only carry it to 5.5 cents.
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Zions- PCGS and NGC designate the Cent/Dime mule according to the METAL that it’s on. There is one known on a clad dime blank, of another date, so the insert says 10C. This one, and the other 2 known in copper ( on cent blanks) were designated 1C on the insert.
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@Byers said:
PCGS and NGC designate the Cent/Dime mule according to the METAL that it’s on. There is one known on a clad dime blank, of another date, so the insert says 10C. This one, and the other 2 known in copper ( on cent blanks) were designated 1C on the insert.
Good to know.
From a legal perspective, now we have fiat currency, it seems like the denomination would make sense.
But from a historical perspective from before fiat coins, the planchet would make sense.
Still on the fence...if its copper & its found in distribution ...the public would treat it as a cent.
Now would this throw off the mints books ? I call it lucky because it could not find a parking spot like some.
It can't be an 11 cent piece. Those are struck dimes that then got struck with the cent dies. It is a mule on a cent planchet so should be a cent mule.
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The planchet was intended for a cent. The composition of the dime is legally defined (even if it's no longer relevant to its value as money), so anything that doesn't conform to that composition wouldn't be a dime. The Mint might not recognize it as a coin at all, since it clearly didn't go through the intended process for producing either denomination.
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@The_Dinosaur_Man said:
whether you call it a cent, a dime, or an 11 cent piece, it's a reminder to always check your change
Yep, if you work in the Mint and were involved in chicanery at the office, you better check your pocket change at the end of the day. Might be something good in there. Everyone else, not so much.
@WAYNEAS said:
My vote was based on the
Lincoln obverse and copper plainchant composition.
Wayne
Not a copper planchet! Zinc!
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The new penny is made of a metal composition of 97.5% zinc and 2.5% copper. Furthermore, the current penny is often referred to as a “Zincoln”. This merges the word zinc with Lincoln since pennies today are called Lincoln cents.
To me, still a copper coated zinc planchet. See others that referred this as a copper cent.
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In first for 11 cents
Good thought and I admit it's one I didn't consider. Too late to edit the poll
I'll go with cent since it's struck on a cent planchet, but would honestly prefer to go with door #3, LOL
Neither - it is a "dent".
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Oooh...that’s a good point. I voted cent (and agree with myself) but it is denominated as a dime.
I’m still thinking that the “ONE DIME” can only carry it to 5.5 cents.
It's a dent.
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1/2 a dime plus 1/2 a cent, it's a 5 1/2 center.......think about it.
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Ya, what he said.
Zinc or copper ?
Weight ?
L or s ?
Luster ?
Strike or pmd ?
It is copper, it is a cent... It is not intended for circulation - a clear mint 'error' (?)....Cheers, RickO
Cent Planchet
Cent Obverse
Dime Reverse
Cent wins 2-1
(If you want to add that it was struck using a cent collar, that would be 3-1)
‘One Dime’
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Zions- PCGS and NGC designate the Cent/Dime mule according to the METAL that it’s on. There is one known on a clad dime blank, of another date, so the insert says 10C. This one, and the other 2 known in copper ( on cent blanks) were designated 1C on the insert.
Good to know.
From a legal perspective, now we have fiat currency, it seems like the denomination would make sense.
But from a historical perspective from before fiat coins, the planchet would make sense.
It's more of a cent but it is BOTH.
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Cent because of the planchet but I also like it as an 11 cent piece. Awesome item!
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It's clearly a 5 1/2 cent piece since it has only the back half of a dime and the front half of a cent
Denver obverse, Philly reverse.
Interesting.
I'm so confused, can't it be both? Peace Roy
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Its cool and I get its attraction factor although myself, what's the back story?
Never mind stay within the question above.
It says "One Dime" on the reverse. Just like the government puts on all the 10 cent coins. So I'll call it a Lincoln dime.
That's my thought as well
Still on the fence...if its copper & its found in distribution ...the public would treat it as a cent.
Now would this throw off the mints books ? I call it lucky because it could not find a parking spot like some.
It can't be an 11 cent piece. Those are struck dimes that then got struck with the cent dies. It is a mule on a cent planchet so should be a cent mule.
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Why do you think its a Philly reverse? Mintmarks on this year are on the obverse for the dime.
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Anyone know how the piece left the mint?
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@mr1874 a better question would be how it got made. Midnight minter would be my guess.
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why is it a Dent when it should be a Dint or a Ceme??
I am going with gender neutral. It is an 11 center.
My vote was based on the
Lincoln obverse and copper plainchant composition.
Wayne
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Not a copper planchet! Zinc!
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I said cent based on the planchet.
That is one seriously cool error...
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well i voted cent the first time AND this time. didn't realize it was an old-ish thread but glad to see i have some continuity.
I'm guessing in somebody's lunchbox -
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The obverse has the portrait, the date, and the mint mark so this is obviously a cent.
Hypothetically, if this was struck on a dime planchet, it would still be considered a cent.
The flip side is that the reverse has the denomination!
I wonder what the US Mint would say.
The planchet was intended for a cent. The composition of the dime is legally defined (even if it's no longer relevant to its value as money), so anything that doesn't conform to that composition wouldn't be a dime. The Mint might not recognize it as a coin at all, since it clearly didn't go through the intended process for producing either denomination.
whether you call it a cent, a dime, or an 11 cent piece, it's a reminder to always check your change
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Yep, if you work in the Mint and were involved in chicanery at the office, you better check your pocket change at the end of the day. Might be something good in there. Everyone else, not so much.
Vending machine wouldn't take it.
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For you.
The new penny is made of a metal composition of 97.5% zinc and 2.5% copper. Furthermore, the current penny is often referred to as a “Zincoln”. This merges the word zinc with Lincoln since pennies today are called Lincoln cents.
To me, still a copper coated zinc planchet. See others that referred this as a copper cent.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...