Is this a dime or a cent?

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Zoins
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edited January 28, 2022 2:38AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This is a great coin posted by Mike @Byers in another thread, but when looking at this, I found myself wondering if it should be classified as a dime or a cent?

What do you think?

Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists

Is this a dime or a cent?

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  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    In first for 11 cents

    Good thought and I admit it's one I didn't consider. Too late to edit the poll :(

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • RB1026
    RB1026 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    I'll go with cent since it's struck on a cent planchet, but would honestly prefer to go with door #3, LOL

  • joeykoins
    joeykoins Posts: 18,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    I'm Jealous. Beautiful coin. <3

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  • ShaunBC5
    ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    @MWallace said:
    It says "ONE DIME". No where does it say "ONE CENT". Just throwing that out there. :D

    Oooh...that’s a good point. I voted cent (and agree with myself) but it is denominated as a dime.
    I’m still thinking that the “ONE DIME” can only carry it to 5.5 cents.

  • Lazybones
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    cent

    It's a dent.

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  • leothelyon
    leothelyon Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1/2 a dime plus 1/2 a cent, it's a 5 1/2 center.......think about it.

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  • emeraldATV
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    Ya, what he said.
    Zinc or copper ?
    Weight ?
    L or s ?
    Luster ?
    Strike or pmd ?

  • ricko
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    cent

    It is copper, it is a cent... It is not intended for circulation - a clear mint 'error' (?)....Cheers, RickO

  • Oldhoopster
    Oldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    Cent Planchet
    Cent Obverse
    Dime Reverse

    Cent wins 2-1 ;)

    (If you want to add that it was struck using a cent collar, that would be 3-1)

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  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    dime

    ‘One Dime’

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  • Byers
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    Zions- PCGS and NGC designate the Cent/Dime mule according to the METAL that it’s on. There is one known on a clad dime blank, of another date, so the insert says 10C. This one, and the other 2 known in copper ( on cent blanks) were designated 1C on the insert.

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  • Zoins
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    @Byers said:
    PCGS and NGC designate the Cent/Dime mule according to the METAL that it’s on. There is one known on a clad dime blank, of another date, so the insert says 10C. This one, and the other 2 known in copper ( on cent blanks) were designated 1C on the insert.

    Good to know.

    From a legal perspective, now we have fiat currency, it seems like the denomination would make sense.

    But from a historical perspective from before fiat coins, the planchet would make sense.

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
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  • Walkerfan
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    cent

    It's more of a cent but it is BOTH.

    It is a MULE.

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  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    In first for 11 cents

    A Dime and a Cent = One Dent

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  • keyman64
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    cent

    Cent because of the planchet but I also like it as an 11 cent piece. Awesome item!

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    Byer's has the best

  • jonathanb
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    It's clearly a 5 1/2 cent piece since it has only the back half of a dime and the front half of a cent

  • JRocco
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    Denver obverse, Philly reverse.
    Interesting.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Namvet69
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    I'm so confused, can't it be both? Peace Roy

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  • BLUEJAYWAY
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    Looks sure can be deceiving, or confusing.

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  • CollectorBonEZ
    CollectorBonEZ Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭
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    Value $1,000,000.11

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  • emeraldATV
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    Its cool and I get its attraction factor although myself, what's the back story?
    Never mind stay within the question above.

  • Batman23
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    dime

    It says "One Dime" on the reverse. Just like the government puts on all the 10 cent coins. So I'll call it a Lincoln dime.

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Batman23 said:
    It says "One Dime" on the reverse. Just like the government puts on all the 10 cent coins. So I'll call it a Lincoln dime.

    That's my thought as well :+1:

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  • emeraldATV
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    @joeykoins said:
    I'm Jealous. Beautiful coin. <3

    Still on the fence...if its copper & its found in distribution ...the public would treat it as a cent.
    Now would this throw off the mints books ? I call it lucky because it could not find a parking spot like some.

  • gumby1234
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    It can't be an 11 cent piece. Those are struck dimes that then got struck with the cent dies. It is a mule on a cent planchet so should be a cent mule.

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  • gumby1234
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    @JRocco said:
    Denver obverse, Philly reverse.
    Interesting.

    Why do you think its a Philly reverse? Mintmarks on this year are on the obverse for the dime.

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  • mr1931S
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    Anyone know how the piece left the mint?

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  • lkeigwin
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    cent

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  • gumby1234
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    @mr1874 a better question would be how it got made. Midnight minter would be my guess.

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  • keets
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    dime

    why is it a Dent when it should be a Dint or a Ceme??

  • SaorAlba
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    I am going with gender neutral. It is an 11 center.

  • WAYNEAS
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    cent

    My vote was based on the
    Lincoln obverse and copper plainchant composition.
    Wayne

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  • braddick
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    @WAYNEAS said:
    My vote was based on the
    Lincoln obverse and copper plainchant composition.
    Wayne

    Not a copper planchet! Zinc!

  • lkenefic
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    cent

    I said cent based on the planchet.

    That is one seriously cool error...

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    well i voted cent the first time AND this time. didn't realize it was an old-ish thread but glad to see i have some continuity.

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  • Steven59
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    @mr1874 said:
    ( Anyone know how the piece left the mint?)

    I'm guessing in somebody's lunchbox - :)

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  • ctf_error_coins
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    cent

    The obverse has the portrait, the date, and the mint mark so this is obviously a cent.

    Hypothetically, if this was struck on a dime planchet, it would still be considered a cent.

  • Zoins
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    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    The obverse has the portrait, the date, and the mint mark so this is obviously a cent.

    The flip side is that the reverse has the denomination!

    I wonder what the US Mint would say.

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  • TitusFlavius
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    cent

    The planchet was intended for a cent. The composition of the dime is legally defined (even if it's no longer relevant to its value as money), so anything that doesn't conform to that composition wouldn't be a dime. The Mint might not recognize it as a coin at all, since it clearly didn't go through the intended process for producing either denomination.

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  • The_Dinosaur_Man
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    whether you call it a cent, a dime, or an 11 cent piece, it's a reminder to always check your change

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  • Coinosaurus
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    cent

    @The_Dinosaur_Man said:
    whether you call it a cent, a dime, or an 11 cent piece, it's a reminder to always check your change

    Yep, if you work in the Mint and were involved in chicanery at the office, you better check your pocket change at the end of the day. Might be something good in there. Everyone else, not so much.

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  • gumby1234
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    Vending machine wouldn't take it. :(

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  • WAYNEAS
    WAYNEAS Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cent

    @braddick said:

    @WAYNEAS said:
    My vote was based on the
    Lincoln obverse and copper plainchant composition.
    Wayne

    Not a copper planchet! Zinc!

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    To me, still a copper coated zinc planchet. See others that referred this as a copper cent.
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