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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    The obverse has the portrait, the date, and the mint mark so this is obviously a cent.

    The flip side is that the reverse has the denomination!

    I wonder what the US Mint would say.

    The mint would say it can not be monetized as a cent nor dine. It is illegal and property of the mint. It must be seized.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    The obverse has the portrait, the date, and the mint mark so this is obviously a cent.

    The flip side is that the reverse has the denomination!

    I wonder what the US Mint would say.

    The mint would say it can not be monetized as a cent nor dine. It is illegal and property of the mint.**** It must be seized.

    You from Texas son?

    peacockcoins

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of psychics from Texas?

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Their were others?
    All this talk is making me want a pizza and a six pack.
    And of course when your ready.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cent

    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,290 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    Pete

    Are you sure it was monetized?

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cent

    PCGS calls it a 'cent'...........I'll defer to their expertise.
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    Latest Major Auction Appearances of This Coin:
    DATE PRICE Firm Sale
    20-Jun-2021 $114,000 Heritage Auctions 2021 June 17-20 U.S. Coins Signature Auction #1331

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    PCGS # E3169
    Date, mintmark 2001-D
    Denomination 1C
    Mint Error Muled with 10C Reverse Die
    Region The United States of America
    Grade MS66RD

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this mule was made unintentionally wouldn't there be many more in existence? Midnight minters at work here. I think coins like this should be seized by the Secret service. Laws had to have been broken here. Just my opinion.

    Jim

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dime

    I gotta go with the denomination that is spelled out ONE DIME.

    It would be a welcomed addition to just about any collection...including mine.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only denomination showing on the coin is "one dime," so it's a dime. Of course, it was probably accounted for by the mint as a cent, so someone owes someone 9 cents somewhere.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Imo, as Jon said, it's a Cent with a Dime Die Rev.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    I think of this As neither but rather a 5.5C as it’s neither a full design of either denomination.

    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cent

    @Zoins said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    Pete

    Are you sure it was monetized?

    It had to be, Zoins. It was found mixed with other coins.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dime

    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    I think it was intended to be exactly what it is, this isn't an error and these sort of mules should stop being seen as anything but what they are, intentionally made fantasy coins.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dime

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Zoins said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    Pete

    Are you sure it was monetized?

    It had to be, Zoins. It was found mixed with other coins.

    Pete

    If it was mixed with other coins, they were the coins in the minter's pocket.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2021 7:55PM

    @keets said:
    It was intended to be a Cent, so that's what it was monetized as.

    I think it was intended to be exactly what it is, this isn't an error and these sort of mules should stop being seen as anything but what they are, intentionally made fantasy coins.

    Another name for intentionally made fantasy coin is pattern….

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some patterns were officially made thou. @Zoins

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dime

    haven't the other recently made mules been debunked as frauds and weren't they also from the same timeframe as this coin, 1999-2001?? I would imagine they were all made by the same person. while I find them interesting I don't believe they should be given any legitimacy.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is surely a dent

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zions- you are correct saying “another name for intentionally made fantasy coin is pattern….”

    Some patterns were authorized. Some of the fantasy patterns that are 2 Headed and 2 Tailed, and exotic mules with mis-matched dies were not authorized.

    The same applies to mint errors. The vast majority were produced in the normal minting process, authorized and monitized, and occasionally they were not.

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  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I spent it somewhere, I think they would accept it as 10c

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    cent

    I called it a cent, because it was made with: an obverse cent die, a cent planchet, a cent collar, but only a reverse dime die.

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    Ed. S.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does the CoinStar say it is ?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2022 1:47AM

    @dcarr said:
    What does the CoinStar say it is ?

    Good question! Someone should try it ;)

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2022 1:56AM

    Here's a second 2001-D specimen!

    The 2001-D MS66RD sold for $114,000 back in June of last year.

    What's this 2001 MS65RD worth in today's market?

    Whats interesting is that Heritage indicates there are 4 specimens covering 3 years on cent planchets and just one specimen on a dime planchet.

    1. A 2001-D Lincoln cent obverse and a Roosevelt dime reverse on a Lincoln cent planchet. The present lot.
    2. Another. MS66 Red PCGS. Long Beach Signature (Heritage, 6/2021), lot 3158.
    3. A 1999 Lincoln cent obverse and a Roosevelt dime reverse on a Lincoln cent planchet. MS66 Red PCGS. Bellaire Collection; Central States Signature (Heritage, 4/2006), lot 5271.
    4. A 1993-D Lincoln cent obverse and a Roosevelt dime reverse on a Lincoln cent planchet. MS65 Red PCGS. Alfred V. Melson Collection; FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2010), lot 2383.
    5. A 1995 Lincoln cent obverse and a Roosevelt dime reverse on a Roosevelt dime planchet. MS64 NGC. Alfred V. Melson Collection; FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2010), lot 2384.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cent

    It would be so great to find one of these in circulation..... Highly unlikely of course, but just imagine the thrill of such a find when checking pocket change or change from a purchase. Wow!! Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dime

    Flip it...heads = cent. Tails = dime.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cent

    A magician should buy that coin for his act :D

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