Guess the grade $5 1835 HM-1 (Slab posted with grade)

pcgscacgold

Guess the grade and did she CAC?

pcgscacgold

Guesses won't offend me. DWN and True view confirm the grade for me.

MFeld

I’ll guess AU58 and not CAC.

Off_Cent_er

EF-45 and yes CAC

Smudge

55 and yes.

Mr_Spud

AU58 and CAC

Hydrant

I don't know. But it's lovely.

PerryHall

High end AU so I'll guess AU58. I have no idea what CAC would say but I like this coin.

coinnut

55 and CAC

pcgscacgold

@PerryHall said:
High end AU so I'll guess AU58. I have no idea what CAC would say but I like this coin.

My first Classic Head Half Eagle. I liked it a lot too.

MFeld

@Off_Cent_er said:
EF-45 and yes CAC

Welcome to the forum. Here’s a PCGS XF45:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jG4AAOSwMa9gEF~V/s-l400.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-c0AAOSwSSlgEF~X/s-l400.jpg

pcgscacgold

@MFeld said:

@Off_Cent_er said:
EF-45 and yes CAC

Welcome to the forum. Here’s a PCGS XF45:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jG4AAOSwMa9gEF~V/s-l400.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-c0AAOSwSSlgEF~X/s-l400.jpg

So, probably better than a XF45

Off_Cent_er

@MFeld said:

@Off_Cent_er said:
EF-45 and yes CAC

Welcome to the forum. Here’s a PCGS XF45:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jG4AAOSwMa9gEF~V/s-l400.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-c0AAOSwSSlgEF~X/s-l400.jpg

Thanks, and gold has always been tough for me.

MFeld

@pcgscacgold said:

@MFeld said:

@Off_Cent_er said:
EF-45 and yes CAC

Welcome to the forum. Here’s a PCGS XF45:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jG4AAOSwMa9gEF~V/s-l400.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-c0AAOSwSSlgEF~X/s-l400.jpg

So, probably better than a XF45

Yes.😉

relicsncoins

55 came to mind first.

tradedollarnut

Love it but I see too much field wear for 58, so I’ll go 55 ...with the sticker

kaz

I think 55 w/sticker

Kliao

55 with sticker. Nice coin!

MFeld

@tradedollarnut said:
Love it but I see too much field wear for 58, so I’ll go 55 ...with the sticker

That’s the problem with trying to guess a grade and whether a coin has been stickered (at that particular grade).
While I guessed 58, no sticker, if it were graded 55, I’d sticker it.

TurtleCat

I like it. I’d say 55 and CAC.

blitzdude

AU50 and probably cac's. I love it, except for that ugly green sticker. Congrats!

JonBrand83

AU 53 CAC

pcgscacgold

It is my start for the Classic Head Half Eagles. Being an 8 coin set, I think I can do it.

scotty4449

I say 55 CAC!

CalifornianKing

AU55 CAC

Lazybones

55

tommy44

55 CAC, I like it a lot.

pcgscacgold

@tommy44 said:
55 CAC, I like it a lot.

My thoughts too. The first is always the most remembered.

Pedzola

55 cac. Nice look to it. I like the color.

Electricity

Pretty Coin, Gonna guess 58
Wouldn’t be surprised to see it in a 55 Holder, would be a buyer at both grades

pcgscacgold

@Pedzola said:
55 cac. Nice look to it. I like the color.

I agree. Looks original and not messed with.

pcgscacgold

This is my first guess the grade. I will post the uncovered Trueview tomorrow. Thanks for playing along.

Boosibri

55 sticker

Higashiyama

I’m with the 58 crowd. In any case, it looks like a wonderful example of a series that’s often not especially attractive!

mark_dak

@Mr_Spud said:
AU58 and CAC

I'm with the Spudster... and anyone should be proud to own it. Nice looking piece of history.

Mark

mark_dak

@pcgscacgold said:
It is my start for the Classic Head Half Eagles. Being an 8 coin set, I think I can do it.

I was kind of considering keying in on the same series also once I knocked off the "Big Kahuna" the other day. Not anywhere as nice the one in the OP but have the 1838-C HM-2 variety now. I'm not going to be dropping $30K+ on the Charlotte coin alone. This one will have to do and sure I'll be submitting to our hosts shortly.

Aegis3

Looks to be in the EF range. I must note you asked us to guess the grade, and not the numbers used on the holder, which I suspect are higher.

mannie gray

55

Wahoo554

53, yes CAC

pcgscacgold

The most common variety (HM-1) for the date. So much early gold has been messed with. This one seemed to be left alone. I have enjoyed reading D. Haynor's book on Classic Gold Coins of 1834-1839. If you are into gold coins from that era, I suggest you give it a read.

TrueView pictures are always nice but this Dealer shot brings out the luster seen when viewing in hand.

MFeld

@Aegis3 said:
Looks to be in the EF range. I must note you asked us to guess the grade, and not the numbers used on the holder, which I suspect are higher.

Where do you see enough wear on the coin to merit an XF, rather than a high AU grade?

That aside, “guess the grade” actually does mean “the numbers used on the holder” assigned by the grading company. That can differ from your personal opinion regarding the grade of the coin, as it did for you in this case.

ricko

Late to the game.... but a nice gold coin. Cheers, RickO

BillJones

@mark_dak said:

@pcgscacgold said:
It is my start for the Classic Head Half Eagles. Being an 8 coin set, I think I can do it.

I was kind of considering keying in on the same series also once I knocked off the "Big Kahuna" the other day. Not anywhere as nice the one in the OP but have the 1838-C HM-2 variety now. I'm not going to be dropping $30K+ on the Charlotte coin alone. This one will have to do and sure I'll be submitting to our hosts shortly.

The 1838-C Five Dollar Gold pieces were not that well made, and they almost all well circulated. They also are not usually very attractive. That piece is a little above average and should make it into a VF-30 to EF-40 holder. My personal grade would be on the lower end of that because it does have a number of marks on the obverse.

Here' is my example, which I have been told is the 7th finest known. And no, it was not cheap. It is the same variety as you piece with the massive reverse die break. NGC graded it AU-58. The "official grade" among the experts in AU-55.

BryceM

That’s a really nice looking coin. I would have guessed 55 CAC, but considering how most of these look 58 CAC seems OK.

A nice AU58 seems to be the sweet spot for this series. Most coins in the MS60-62 range are a bit rough and lack eye appeal. Prices get pretty nasty above that.

I’m in the market for a type coin and looked at a bunch in the Stacks auction and at dealers tables at the Vegas invitational. There was a 55 CAC in the auction and the OP’s coin appears to be considerably nicer. I saw a lustrous 55 at a dealer’s table but it had a pretty distracting hit.

Still looking.....

@BillJones , that is an exceptional Charlotte Classic $5!

mark_dak

@BillJones said:

@mark_dak said:

@pcgscacgold said:
It is my start for the Classic Head Half Eagles. Being an 8 coin set, I think I can do it.

I was kind of considering keying in on the same series also once I knocked off the "Big Kahuna" the other day. Not anywhere as nice the one in the OP but have the 1838-C HM-2 variety now. I'm not going to be dropping $30K+ on the Charlotte coin alone. This one will have to do and sure I'll be submitting to our hosts shortly.

The 1838-C Five Dollar Gold pieces were not that well made, and they almost all well circulated. They also are not usually very attractive. That piece is a little above average and should make it into a VF-30 to EF-40 holder. My personal grade would be on the lower end of that because it does have a number of marks on the obverse.

Here' is my example, which I have been told is the 7th finest known. And no, it was not cheap. It is the same variety as you piece with the massive reverse die break. NGC graded it AU-58. The "official grade" among the experts in AU-55.

I picked this one up with VF20-VF25 in mind and paid a very safe price at that, so I'd be doing the victory dance at that lower end. I'm only concerned that they may tack a details designation as almost any of these circulated pieces have been messed with to some degree. Color actually looks even better in hand and mostly looks like contact and wear marks and exhibits the usual weak strike.

Your coin is exceptionally beautiful for all the reasons you mention. Congratulations, and I'd say enjoy owning it but I really don't think that's necessary.

Mark

Ronyahski

@pcgscacgold said:
The most common variety (HM-1) for the date. So much early gold has been messed with. This one seemed to be left alone. I have enjoyed reading D. Haynor's book on Classic Gold Coins of 1834-1839. If you are into gold coins from that era, I suggest you give it a read.

TrueView pictures are always nice but this Dealer shot brings out the luster seen when viewing in hand.

It is so nice to hear that you enjoy reading my book. Hopefully more collectors will become familiar with the Class Gold series. You found a very nice coin, I agree with the 58 grade. It is an early die state coin because there are no die clashes on the obverse. And it shows some typical weakness of strike on the upper stars, which may have led some to guess 55. Good luck on completing the series and please contact me if you wish to discuss anything about Classic Gold.

csdot

OP's name is pcgscacgold and we are guessing if the pcgs graded gold coin he has, or he is interested in, has a cac sticker?

Love it.

pcgscacgold

@Ronyahski said:

@pcgscacgold said:
The most common variety (HM-1) for the date. So much early gold has been messed with. This one seemed to be left alone. I have enjoyed reading D. Haynor's book on Classic Gold Coins of 1834-1839. If you are into gold coins from that era, I suggest you give it a read.

TrueView pictures are always nice but this Dealer shot brings out the luster seen when viewing in hand.

It is so nice to hear that enjoy reading my book. Hopefully more collectors will become familiar with the Class Gold series. You found a very nice coin, I agree with the 58 grade. It is an early die state coin because there are no die clashes on the obverse. And it shows some typical weakness of strike on the upper stars, which may have led some to guess 55. Good luck on completing the series and please contact me if you wish to discuss anything about Classic Gold.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Your book is an incredible resource and I would be lost without it. I am a quarter of the way to the 8 basic coin Half Eagle set. My other coin is an HM-1 1837. Thanks for the offer to talk Classic Gold. I will take you up on that.
Tom