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Three Gold Dollars - Which Graded What? (Updated)

TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 7, 2021 5:36AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This probably won't be too hard but I thought I'd do something a bit different for this thread. One of these graded 62, another 63, and the other 64+. Which one graded which? And 2 of them are CAC and the other one I don't know if it was ever sent in (I don't have a CAC membership).

update In this case I actually have the grades in the right order! The first is 62, the second is 63, and the last is 64+. The first and third are green beaned. I suspect the second would bean if I sent it in.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Which Graded What?

    Who's on first?

    62
    64+
    63

    I'll say the top two got a bean, but they all look pretty nice.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same as that guy above me ... almost!

    62
    64+
    63

    I'll say the bottom two got a bean, but they all look pretty nice


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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62, 64,63. Nice coins. Bottom two beaned.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!
    62, 64+,63.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58; 63; 64

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2021 1:54PM

    Some interesting guesses! Keep ‘em coming!

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    Gold dollars make neat rings. :)

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if I follow the crowd, I won't look as stupid

    2,4+,3

    seems the ones that CAC might just be a guess. I don't know how the spot would affect a bean. if it doesn't then all 3 seem pretty nice. first 2 CAC.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58, 64 and 63+

    Years ago, the grading used to be conservative on the 1889 gold dollars. I have one in an old green label holder graded 63 that might be 65 today. It’s not the only one I have seen.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll reveal the grade order and beans in the morning. I’m curious what you all will think...

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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63
    62
    64

    First and third beaned? Seems like first and third would have most luster and both seem to have tiny copper spots suggesting originality. Second is, from my eye, the most intact in terms of clean fields, and the one I like the best visually, but the devices, particularly on the reverse, might have more indication of friction? I like the GTGs where folks can’t cheat so I am willing to look dumb. Love all three regardless.

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    mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OliverDePlaise said:
    Gold dollars make neat rings. :)

    Think the crowd has it right, congrats on owning three nice gold dollars. Yeah, crack them out - a ring and a set of cuff links would be nice!

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Updated OP with results. Thanks for taking a look!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2021 5:42AM

    My guess is the 1849-O and the 1889 got the MS-62 grades, and the 1851 got the MS-64. I still don’t think that the 1849-O is a true Unc.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well...just missed the deadline.... Nice gold coins. I think the second one will get a green bean if you submit it. Cheers, RickO

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. The third coin has the best luster of the lot, by far, but also appears to have some scattered small abrasions. I contemplating calling it the 64+. Nice little dollars and a fun GTG format. Thanks.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are the same dates from collection.

    This 1849-O is graded MS-62.

    This 1851 is graded MS-64.

    This 1889 is graded MS-64. It is in an OGL holder, and I had remembered it as an MS-63. MS-64 is the right grade although I have seen MS-65 graded coins that were equal to it.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All three of those look great. I know there's been a bit of gradeflation but at least JA seems to agree on the 1849 and 1889 one.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suppose it would help if I had read the instructions before offering my opinion... I doubt my opinion would change. There seems to be a fairly high surviving population of the 1889 and most of the ones I have seen pop and yours is no exception. Ii is the best of the three. I had a 49-o that I bought raw and sold years ago that was a 58. It seemed comparable to yours. Overall these are nice as are the ones posted by BillJones. I think his 1851 has the look... the grade becomes secondary when coin has the such an attractive color.

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