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1822 Half Eagle coming soon

GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 5, 2021 10:34AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Stacks Bowers just announced 1822 Half Eagle will be auctioned on March 25, 2021 in Las Vegas. Hard to state how important this phenominal rarity is within the universe of American gold coins. Who is up for a bid?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's only one in private hands. The other two are in the Smithsonian Institute.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    There's only one in private hands. The other two are in the Smithsonian Institute.

    Where probably no one can see them, unless you are a 12 year old intern.

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  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well those a great photos from the Smithsonian!

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    Yawn

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bid. And lose. But I'll always be able to say I was an underbidder.
    Lance.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love coins like this!!

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    I'll bid. And lose. But I'll always be able to say I was an underbidder.
    Lance.

    What if you bid... and accidentally win? 😎

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly one of the great rarities.... Maybe I will find one at a yard sale.... :D Well, it could happen. ;) Cheers, RickO

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2021 6:35AM

    @yosclimber said:


    and in 2013
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/882432/smithsonian-stories-on-money-exhibit-report

    I remember seeing it at the numismatic room at the Smith Museum of American History. They had some rarities, and about 20 coins displayed. Given the size of their collection, underwhelming but at least one got to seem some famous coins. But not very educational for the non-numismatist. Even their new and expanded display is way short.....

    HST, price predictions? Is the Pogue 22 going to break the record? $12 million? Less? More?

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  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Panda4456 said:
    Yawn

    If the subject bores you, why did you post? Edited to add: It added nothing and was quite rude.

    I was just trolling. It’s a nice coin but most of us won’t be able to come near the coins because we don’t have the funds lol

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    I love coins like this!!

    B)o:)

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2021 6:47AM

    @BillJones said:

    @PerryHall said:
    There's only one in private hands. The other two are in the Smithsonian Institute.

    Where probably no one can see them, unless you are a 12 year old intern.

    Viewing of the Smithsonian collection have been mentioned here. Here are some threads:

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  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will be interesting to see if anyone new and unknown gets involved here. With Dell Loy almost certainly having strong interest, and tradedollarnut and privaterarecoincollector expressing no interest at the moment. Who might be the other competitors in that realm? The only one in private hands, the once every 50 years or so opportunity. I'm assuming Mr. Simpson likely not a player, given his decision to pass on some of his treasure chest to others. But this is another key historical numismatic moment. We really are spoiled over the last five years. Newman, Gardner, Pogue, and Simpson events to name a few. It's been a massive changing of the guard. Was the only other era like this the period of Eliasberg, Garret and Norweb sales? At least in our lifetime. Of course, somehow in each of these collecting eras these famous and fabulous coins find a new caretaker. It really appears the market is deep, and much stronger than some imagine. The new wave of pinnacle collectors led by the current generation chomping at the bit for opportunities not seen in 20 to 50 years! Let's toast the moment, I really don't think this will occur for another 20 years.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2021 8:10AM

    @GoBust said:
    It will be interesting to see if anyone new and unknown gets involved here. With Dell Loy almost certainly having strong interest, and tradedollarnut and privaterarecoincollector expressing no interest at the moment. Who might be the other competitors in that realm? The only one in private hands, the once every 50 years or so opportunity. I'm assuming Mr. Simpson likely not a player, given his decision to pass on some of his treasure chest to others. But this is another key historical numismatic moment. We really are spoiled over the last five years. Newman, Gardner, Pogue, and Simpson events to name a few. It's been a massive changing of the guard. Was the only other era like this the period of Eliasberg, Garret and Norweb sales? At least in our lifetime. Of course, somehow in each of these collecting eras these famous and fabulous coins find a new caretaker. It really appears the market is deep, and much stronger than some imagine. The new wave of pinnacle collectors led by the current generation chomping at the bit for opportunities not seen in 20 to 50 years! Let's toast the moment, I really don't think this will occur for another 20 years.

    Agree, though I haven't seen the next generation of major collectors yet. I wonder if any our out there collecting in private.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoBust said:
    It will be interesting to see if anyone new and unknown gets involved here. With Dell Loy almost certainly having strong interest, and tradedollarnut and privaterarecoincollector expressing no interest at the moment. Who might be the other competitors in that realm? The only one in private hands, the once every 50 years or so opportunity. I'm assuming Mr. Simpson likely not a player, given his decision to pass on some of his treasure chest to others. But this is another key historical numismatic moment. We really are spoiled over the last five years. Newman, Gardner, Pogue, and Simpson events to name a few. It's been a massive changing of the guard. Was the only other era like this the period of Eliasberg, Garret and Norweb sales? At least in our lifetime. Of course, somehow in each of these collecting eras these famous and fabulous coins find a new caretaker. It really appears the market is deep, and much stronger than some imagine. The new wave of pinnacle collectors led by the current generation chomping at the bit for opportunities not seen in 20 to 50 years! Let's toast the moment, I really don't think this will occur for another 20 years.

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  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2021 3:05AM

    6 days out from live bidding, and internet bidding has it up to $3 million so far.

    https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q4SHM/1822-capped-head-left-half-eagle-bd-1-rarity-8-au-50-pcgs

  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭

    Should be fun to watch. maybe another trip to the smithsonian.

  • DoubleDimeDoubleDime Posts: 634 ✭✭✭

    I've seen the one in the Smithsonian and other rarities when I was stationed in D. C. 1977-79.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleDime said:
    I've seen the one in the Smithsonian and other rarities when I was stationed in D. C. 1977-79.

    I think I saw it when I was there in the mid-70's, too. I think also an 1804 $1 and a 1913 Liberty nickel. If the Smithsonian doesn't possess either of these, then my memory is playing tricks on me. :)

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4 days out from live bidding, and internet bidding has it up to $3.4 million so far.

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