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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 18, 2023 2:02AM

    Does anyone know if there is a reference to Newfoundland half dollar die marriages and varieties? I have two distinct die marriages for the 1876-H and am curious how many were used to mint 28,000 coins. Ultimately, I want to find out if either one is the 1876-H 6/6.

    Note the position of the top of the 7 to the top of the 6 for all three coins.
    Type 1 - top of 6 about equal to 7, underlying 6 left, repunched 50 - most examples are this type.

    Type II - top of 6 distinctly higher than 7, 7 tilted right, underlying 6 right (? -have to see in hand), repunched T. The only Type II coin I found on Coin Prices was the same coin graded NGC VF25 (this is in a PCGS VF35 holder).

    Photo of supposed 76-H 6/6 on "Coins and Canada" - this may represent a 3rd die marriage that lacks a repunched T

    I have only discerned one obverse die so far.
    And off we go...

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Try Barry Borsellino
    he wrote a book with most NFL varieties in it.
    I sent you some more info via PM.
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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    Try Barry Borsellino
    he wrote a book with most NFL varieties in it.
    I sent you some more info via PM.
    H

    Barry identifies 2 varieties for the Newfie 1876-H 50 cents. Both have repunched 6. T1 = Left tail and T2 = right tail.

    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 30, 2023 12:40PM

    @1960NYGiants said:

    @YQQ said:
    Try Barry Borsellino
    he wrote a book with most NFL varieties in it.
    I sent you some more info via PM.
    H

    Barry identifies 2 varieties for the Newfie 1876-H 50 cents. Both have repunched 6. T1 = Left tail and T2 = right tail.

    Thanks! Without seeing figures, I think I understand what you're saying here. The "left tail" and "right tail" refer to the underlying 6 in relation to the second punch. It looks like I have two and perhaps three die marriages.

    Edited to add that I have seen only two varieties. The so-called third variety with a repunched T turns out to be a scratch that resembles a doubled T. The two varieties both seem to be well represented, so it's odd that an EF40 "6/6" (2 varieties, both are 6/6 overdates) sold recently for over $1100.

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    Nova Scotia 1864 1/2 Cent

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kyle said:
    Here's one more raw buy, the "fire and ice" reverse is a really interesting look!

    I'd call that coin "Entering Lytton."

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    do you know where Lytton is?

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    CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    tcollectstcollects Posts: 916 ✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    here is a "sort of younger" dark side nickel.
    Many Canadian Nickels were used way back in the hand operated mechanical parking meters.
    often the friction inside the meters caused the coins to be scratched when you turned to handle.
    This why u can find a serious lot of diagonally scratched Canadian Nickels.
    This nickel has also striations from the denticles to the inside, on the reverse from the left towards the center.

    nice beaver bro

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    Shoulder Fold Near Variety and looks uncirculated. Nice find.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    do you know where Lytton is?

    Yes.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinHoarder said:

    That's what I like to do - purchase inexpensive eBay lots of Canadian halves and dollars and look for better coins. Oh, to find a wonderful junk box of Canadian halves or dollars and sort through it for an hour.

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I mean the Lytton in British Columbia which during the last few years experienced 2 catastrophes:
    1 80% or so completely flooded by the river
    2 nearly completely destroyed by fire 2 years ago
    It is being built up again now
    IS this the Lytton you mean?
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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    I mean the Lytton in British Columbia which during the last few years experienced 2 catastrophes:
    1 80% or so completely flooded by the river
    2 nearly completely destroyed by fire 2 years ago
    It is being built up again now
    IS this the Lytton you mean?
    H

    Yes. Lytton, BC. I'm well aware of what has happened there. That's why I posted that image.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know lots of people may not care over here, but I completed my QEII 25c silver collection over at NGC today. Link is posted below if you wanted to look at a few of them. NGC made completing world sets much harder a few years ago when they decided that PCGS coins were no longer eligible for the competition, which I personally think is silly. Both companies can both grade coins.

    https://ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/234792/

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1960NYGiants said:
    Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.

    What is it and how many made?

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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 7:18AM

    Well, maybe someone has a Charlton Vol 2 to look at the Mint's non-circulating stuff. I love the look of that, Gene.
    I've looked in Haxby and even old Charltons from the late 60's and early 70's and the closest that I've found is a gold presentation set, but it didn't have both gold coins. Is the small one a $20 coin and, if so, what's the large gold? And what is the silver coin in the middle at the bottom and the huge in the middle?

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Canadian Blacksmith Token c. 1825 Wood 23b early die state. Minor clip

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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭

    1960's ... Here is an old coin site post that has some info:

    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=329948

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Confederation set is really cool and the medals are wild, but is the card included with them printed in Italian? Is it due to the distributor being an Italian company?

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 2:29PM

    If you go to the CoinCommunity link above, the thread gives more info. I thought that the language was Spanish at first but now agree Italian, but the info from the thread and manufacturer is there.

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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    What is it and how many made?

    The thread linked by @syl pretty much covers it. The set was issued by an Italian firm out of Milan - I.N.E. or Istituto Numismatico Europeo in 1967 to celebrate Canada's centennial. It comprises of a RCM 1967 mint set plus 2 gold (.900) medals and 2 sterling medals. The gold pieces are 23mm/7gr and 30mm/17.5gr. The silver pieces are 30mm and 60mm. The 4 medals all have the same design: Queen Victoria young head and Canada's Coat of Arms of 1967. Photo of 30mm gold:

    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ……and now for something Completely different…..Canadian Blacksmith Token Wood 18

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    A medal from Ford commemorating King George VI coronation

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    CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    I know lots of people may not care over here, but I completed my QEII 25c silver collection over at NGC today. Link is posted below if you wanted to look at a few of them. NGC made completing world sets much harder a few years ago when they decided that PCGS coins were no longer eligible for the competition, which I personally think is silly. Both companies can both grade coins.

    https://ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/234792/

    Based upon the grades I've seen assigned to Newfoundland coins by PCGS and other TPG services, I don't think it's silly.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a lot of red on that Bank of Montreal half-penny!

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭

    Great coins Gene! I didn't get my book out to see about the height of the trees on the Montreal token.

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking set of coins, I am bidding on some provincials now but they
    sure don’t look anything like that. What is that mark on the X on the reverse,
    Was it noted on the PCGS label?

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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭✭

    @syl said:
    Great coins Gene! I didn't get my book out to see about the height of the trees on the Montreal token.

    @syl - it is PC-1B3 heavy trees.

    @Greenstang said:
    Nice looking set of coins, I am bidding on some provincials now but they
    sure don’t look anything like that. What is that mark on the X on the reverse,
    Was it noted on the PCGS label?

    @Greenstang - it is a strike through, not noted

    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    A 1944 silver 50 cent

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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭

    On another site, a few years ago, there was the guy who made these.

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    I got mine from a student who made them to help put himself through university

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 11:17AM

    Just won this one on eBay
    I have a couple of these but I really like the detail on the crown on this one.
    You can even see the fine lines inside the crown which normally aren't there.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I picked this up recently because it was cheap for the grade, and I'm hooked on Newfies. PCGS calls this "VF30" - has obverse scratch, rim ding, some pitting on pigtail and CENTS but otherwise nice, so I grabbed it as part of my PCGS Newfie grading set. I would grade it at most, VF20.

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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A couple of fifty centers I've had in my collection since the early '00's which, I finally got around to getting certified.

    1898 Victoria Fifty Cents - PCGS XF40 (overgraded but PQ, in my humble opinion).

    1914 George V Fifty Cents - PCGS XF45 (coin is considerably darker than the image suggests).

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More Canadian and Newfoundland silver.

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1960NYGiants said:
    Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.

    this is NOT a set issued by the RCM. as far as I know.
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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭

    This set, as YQQ stated, was not minted by the RCM. This has been discussed previously on here. Go down to Jan 23 in this thread:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13654914#Comment_13654914

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are very nice! Halves are difficult to find in gem or better!

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just wondering what this one could grade at?

    thanks, guys

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and this one also please....

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    sylsyl Posts: 915 ✭✭✭

    First one XF cleaned, second AU, if those are Obv scratches

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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @syl said:
    First one XF cleaned, second AU, if those are Obv scratches

    I would venture to say AU55 details on the first one and AU58 scratched on the second piece. It's too bad about the scratch across the neck on the ten cents. Both coins have excellent strikes and interesting reverse die breaks.

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