Does anyone know if there is a reference to Newfoundland half dollar die marriages and varieties? I have two distinct die marriages for the 1876-H and am curious how many were used to mint 28,000 coins. Ultimately, I want to find out if either one is the 1876-H 6/6.
Note the position of the top of the 7 to the top of the 6 for all three coins.
Type 1 - top of 6 about equal to 7, underlying 6 left, repunched 50 - most examples are this type.
Type II - top of 6 distinctly higher than 7, 7 tilted right, underlying 6 right (? -have to see in hand), repunched T. The only Type II coin I found on Coin Prices was the same coin graded NGC VF25 (this is in a PCGS VF35 holder).
Photo of supposed 76-H 6/6 on "Coins and Canada" - this may represent a 3rd die marriage that lacks a repunched T
I have only discerned one obverse die so far.
And off we go...
@YQQ said:
Try Barry Borsellino
he wrote a book with most NFL varieties in it.
I sent you some more info via PM.
H
Barry identifies 2 varieties for the Newfie 1876-H 50 cents. Both have repunched 6. T1 = Left tail and T2 = right tail.
Thanks! Without seeing figures, I think I understand what you're saying here. The "left tail" and "right tail" refer to the underlying 6 in relation to the second punch. It looks like I have two and perhaps three die marriages.
Edited to add that I have seen only two varieties. The so-called third variety with a repunched T turns out to be a scratch that resembles a doubled T. The two varieties both seem to be well represented, so it's odd that an EF40 "6/6" (2 varieties, both are 6/6 overdates) sold recently for over $1100.
@YQQ said:
here is a "sort of younger" dark side nickel.
Many Canadian Nickels were used way back in the hand operated mechanical parking meters.
often the friction inside the meters caused the coins to be scratched when you turned to handle.
This why u can find a serious lot of diagonally scratched Canadian Nickels.
This nickel has also striations from the denticles to the inside, on the reverse from the left towards the center.
That's what I like to do - purchase inexpensive eBay lots of Canadian halves and dollars and look for better coins. Oh, to find a wonderful junk box of Canadian halves or dollars and sort through it for an hour.
I mean the Lytton in British Columbia which during the last few years experienced 2 catastrophes:
1 80% or so completely flooded by the river
2 nearly completely destroyed by fire 2 years ago
It is being built up again now
IS this the Lytton you mean?
H
@YQQ said:
I mean the Lytton in British Columbia which during the last few years experienced 2 catastrophes:
1 80% or so completely flooded by the river
2 nearly completely destroyed by fire 2 years ago
It is being built up again now
IS this the Lytton you mean?
H
Yes. Lytton, BC. I'm well aware of what has happened there. That's why I posted that image.
I know lots of people may not care over here, but I completed my QEII 25c silver collection over at NGC today. Link is posted below if you wanted to look at a few of them. NGC made completing world sets much harder a few years ago when they decided that PCGS coins were no longer eligible for the competition, which I personally think is silly. Both companies can both grade coins.
Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.
Gene
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Collector of: Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960 My Ebay
@1960NYGiants said:
Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.
Well, maybe someone has a Charlton Vol 2 to look at the Mint's non-circulating stuff. I love the look of that, Gene.
I've looked in Haxby and even old Charltons from the late 60's and early 70's and the closest that I've found is a gold presentation set, but it didn't have both gold coins. Is the small one a $20 coin and, if so, what's the large gold? And what is the silver coin in the middle at the bottom and the huge in the middle?
That Confederation set is really cool and the medals are wild, but is the card included with them printed in Italian? Is it due to the distributor being an Italian company?
If you go to the CoinCommunity link above, the thread gives more info. I thought that the language was Spanish at first but now agree Italian, but the info from the thread and manufacturer is there.
The thread linked by @syl pretty much covers it. The set was issued by an Italian firm out of Milan - I.N.E. or Istituto Numismatico Europeo in 1967 to celebrate Canada's centennial. It comprises of a RCM 1967 mint set plus 2 gold (.900) medals and 2 sterling medals. The gold pieces are 23mm/7gr and 30mm/17.5gr. The silver pieces are 30mm and 60mm. The 4 medals all have the same design: Queen Victoria young head and Canada's Coat of Arms of 1967. Photo of 30mm gold:
Gene
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of: Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960 My Ebay
@erwindoc said:
I know lots of people may not care over here, but I completed my QEII 25c silver collection over at NGC today. Link is posted below if you wanted to look at a few of them. NGC made completing world sets much harder a few years ago when they decided that PCGS coins were no longer eligible for the competition, which I personally think is silly. Both companies can both grade coins.
Nice looking set of coins, I am bidding on some provincials now but they
sure don’t look anything like that. What is that mark on the X on the reverse,
Was it noted on the PCGS label?
@Greenstang said:
Nice looking set of coins, I am bidding on some provincials now but they
sure don’t look anything like that. What is that mark on the X on the reverse,
Was it noted on the PCGS label?
Just won this one on eBay
I have a couple of these but I really like the detail on the crown on this one.
You can even see the fine lines inside the crown which normally aren't there.
I picked this up recently because it was cheap for the grade, and I'm hooked on Newfies. PCGS calls this "VF30" - has obverse scratch, rim ding, some pitting on pigtail and CENTS but otherwise nice, so I grabbed it as part of my PCGS Newfie grading set. I would grade it at most, VF20.
@1960NYGiants said:
Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.
this is NOT a set issued by the RCM. as far as I know.
H
@syl said:
First one XF cleaned, second AU, if those are Obv scratches
I would venture to say AU55 details on the first one and AU58 scratched on the second piece. It's too bad about the scratch across the neck on the ten cents. Both coins have excellent strikes and interesting reverse die breaks.
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Does anyone know if there is a reference to Newfoundland half dollar die marriages and varieties? I have two distinct die marriages for the 1876-H and am curious how many were used to mint 28,000 coins. Ultimately, I want to find out if either one is the 1876-H 6/6.
Note the position of the top of the 7 to the top of the 6 for all three coins.
Type 1 - top of 6 about equal to 7, underlying 6 left, repunched 50 - most examples are this type.
Type II - top of 6 distinctly higher than 7, 7 tilted right, underlying 6 right (? -have to see in hand), repunched T. The only Type II coin I found on Coin Prices was the same coin graded NGC VF25 (this is in a PCGS VF35 holder).
Photo of supposed 76-H 6/6 on "Coins and Canada" - this may represent a 3rd die marriage that lacks a repunched T
I have only discerned one obverse die so far.
And off we go...
Try Barry Borsellino
he wrote a book with most NFL varieties in it.
I sent you some more info via PM.
H
Barry identifies 2 varieties for the Newfie 1876-H 50 cents. Both have repunched 6. T1 = Left tail and T2 = right tail.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
Thanks! Without seeing figures, I think I understand what you're saying here. The "left tail" and "right tail" refer to the underlying 6 in relation to the second punch. It looks like I have two and perhaps three die marriages.
Edited to add that I have seen only two varieties. The so-called third variety with a repunched T turns out to be a scratch that resembles a doubled T. The two varieties both seem to be well represented, so it's odd that an EF40 "6/6" (2 varieties, both are 6/6 overdates) sold recently for over $1100.
Nova Scotia 1864 1/2 Cent
Picked this up raw a little while ago and got around to photographing it today. I'll be sending it for grading soon.
Here's one more raw buy, the "fire and ice" reverse is a really interesting look!
I'd call that coin "Entering Lytton."
do you know where Lytton is?
nice beaver bro
Shoulder Fold Near Variety and looks uncirculated. Nice find.
Yes.
That's what I like to do - purchase inexpensive eBay lots of Canadian halves and dollars and look for better coins. Oh, to find a wonderful junk box of Canadian halves or dollars and sort through it for an hour.
I mean the Lytton in British Columbia which during the last few years experienced 2 catastrophes:
1 80% or so completely flooded by the river
2 nearly completely destroyed by fire 2 years ago
It is being built up again now
IS this the Lytton you mean?
H
Yes. Lytton, BC. I'm well aware of what has happened there. That's why I posted that image.
I know lots of people may not care over here, but I completed my QEII 25c silver collection over at NGC today. Link is posted below if you wanted to look at a few of them. NGC made completing world sets much harder a few years ago when they decided that PCGS coins were no longer eligible for the competition, which I personally think is silly. Both companies can both grade coins.
https://ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/234792/
Picked up this set at NYINC. I've seen the individual pieces in the past. This is the 1st time I've seen the entire set in original case. Had to have it.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
What is it and how many made?
Well, maybe someone has a Charlton Vol 2 to look at the Mint's non-circulating stuff. I love the look of that, Gene.
I've looked in Haxby and even old Charltons from the late 60's and early 70's and the closest that I've found is a gold presentation set, but it didn't have both gold coins. Is the small one a $20 coin and, if so, what's the large gold? And what is the silver coin in the middle at the bottom and the huge in the middle?
Canadian Blacksmith Token c. 1825 Wood 23b early die state. Minor clip
1960's ... Here is an old coin site post that has some info:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=329948
That Confederation set is really cool and the medals are wild, but is the card included with them printed in Italian? Is it due to the distributor being an Italian company?
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
If you go to the CoinCommunity link above, the thread gives more info. I thought that the language was Spanish at first but now agree Italian, but the info from the thread and manufacturer is there.
The thread linked by @syl pretty much covers it. The set was issued by an Italian firm out of Milan - I.N.E. or Istituto Numismatico Europeo in 1967 to celebrate Canada's centennial. It comprises of a RCM 1967 mint set plus 2 gold (.900) medals and 2 sterling medals. The gold pieces are 23mm/7gr and 30mm/17.5gr. The silver pieces are 30mm and 60mm. The 4 medals all have the same design: Queen Victoria young head and Canada's Coat of Arms of 1967. Photo of 30mm gold:
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
……and now for something Completely different…..Canadian Blacksmith Token Wood 18
A medal from Ford commemorating King George VI coronation
Based upon the grades I've seen assigned to Newfoundland coins by PCGS and other TPG services, I don't think it's silly.
My wins from Stacks arrived yesterday.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
That's a lot of red on that Bank of Montreal half-penny!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Great coins Gene! I didn't get my book out to see about the height of the trees on the Montreal token.
Nice looking set of coins, I am bidding on some provincials now but they
sure don’t look anything like that. What is that mark on the X on the reverse,
Was it noted on the PCGS label?
@syl - it is PC-1B3 heavy trees.
@Greenstang - it is a strike through, not noted
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
A 1944 silver 50 cent
On another site, a few years ago, there was the guy who made these.
I got mine from a student who made them to help put himself through university
Just won this one on eBay
I have a couple of these but I really like the detail on the crown on this one.
You can even see the fine lines inside the crown which normally aren't there.
I picked this up recently because it was cheap for the grade, and I'm hooked on Newfies. PCGS calls this "VF30" - has obverse scratch, rim ding, some pitting on pigtail and CENTS but otherwise nice, so I grabbed it as part of my PCGS Newfie grading set. I would grade it at most, VF20.
A couple of fifty centers I've had in my collection since the early '00's which, I finally got around to getting certified.
1898 Victoria Fifty Cents - PCGS XF40 (overgraded but PQ, in my humble opinion).
1914 George V Fifty Cents - PCGS XF45 (coin is considerably darker than the image suggests).
More Canadian and Newfoundland silver.
this is NOT a set issued by the RCM. as far as I know.
H
This set, as YQQ stated, was not minted by the RCM. This has been discussed previously on here. Go down to Jan 23 in this thread:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13654914#Comment_13654914
My recent PCGS economy submission just came back, with a mixed bag of results. Here are the fifty cent coins.
1907 Edward VII - PCGS VF35
1938 George VI - PCGS MS62, purchased on eBay about 12 years ago as an AU. It picked up some toning from a Dansco type album.
1955 Elizabeth II - PCGS MS63. I thought that this had a good shot at MS65 so the results didn't meet expectations. Not enough luster?
And finally, 1962 Elizabeth II - PCGS MS65+. I thought this had an outside chance at MS66 but I'm happy with the result.
Those are very nice! Halves are difficult to find in gem or better!
My latest buy.
Just wondering what this one could grade at?
thanks, guys
and this one also please....
First one XF cleaned, second AU, if those are Obv scratches
I would venture to say AU55 details on the first one and AU58 scratched on the second piece. It's too bad about the scratch across the neck on the ten cents. Both coins have excellent strikes and interesting reverse die breaks.